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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #285 on: September 29, 2018, 12:00:26 PM »
Thank you, pate.  Great picture of the monument.  I was going to respond to your post last night but I couldn't gain access to the website.  Anyway, I just wanted you to know that I came across some further information on what took place on this day, 100 years ago.  Taken from The Evening Missourian., November 23, 1918.

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #286 on: September 29, 2018, 03:57:41 PM »
Thank you, pate.  Great picture of the monument.  I was going to respond to your post last night but I couldn't gain access to the website.  Anyway, I just wanted you to know that I came across some further information on what took place on this day, 100 years ago.  Taken from The Evening Missourian., November 23, 1918.

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I found an article somewhere that said he died five days after his 31st birthday.

Happened to drive by the monument today and it did not appear any ceremony was happening today...  there were TWO individuals working for the Main Street Merchants picking up trash, flag was no longer at half-staff.  I was tempted to tell them to put it at half-mast but didn't....

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« Reply #287 on: September 29, 2018, 04:23:38 PM »
True hero. Thanks Rikki

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #288 on: September 29, 2018, 04:45:13 PM »
I found an article somewhere that said he died five days after his 31st birthday.

Happened to drive by the monument today and it did not appear any ceremony was happening today...  there were TWO individuals working for the Main Street Merchants picking up trash, flag was no longer at half-staff.  I was tempted to tell them to put it at half-mast but didn't....

Yes, too bad the local press didn't pick up on the major's death occurring 100 years ago.  But that happens.  Every once in a great while I come across an article or video that somebody made about people and events from exactly 100 years ago.  At least we did our own small part in commemorating the major's heroic deeds on September 29, 1918.  That is one of the things that I enjoy about operating this thread.  Thanks for bringing the major and his monument to my attention, pate.

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #289 on: September 30, 2018, 01:43:30 AM »
From the Imperial War Museum, September 30, 1918.

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Kadem Station, terminus of the Hijaz Railway, the store yard of which was set on fire before the Turks and Germans left Damascus. The Station and all houses around it were completely destroyed. Two troops of the Gloucester Yeomanry unsuccessfully attempted to seize the powerful enemy wireless plant at Kadem, but the Station was blown up as they rode in, 30th September 1918.
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The Battle of Megiddo, September 1918: The remains of Kadem Station, a terminus of the Hejaz railway, which was set on fire by the retreating Germans and Turks, 30th September 1918.
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Capture of Damascus. Some of the prisoners captured in the Barada Gorge by the 3rd and 5th Australian Light Horse Brigade, 30th September 1918.
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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #290 on: September 30, 2018, 02:36:16 AM »
From the Library of Congress.  The Ashland (Oregon) Tidings, September 30, 1918.

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Sadly, Walter wouldn't survive the war.  If I remember right, (and it has been quite a number of years since I researched it) he was an observer in a navy plane that was shot down over water, sometime in October.  He was listed as missing for quite awhile.  The Ashland High School football stadium is still named after him.   

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« Reply #291 on: September 30, 2018, 08:21:31 PM »
So with Rix's permission, I am going to take a little detour and go back a bit to determine how American troops ended up in Siberia in August 1918.     

We have to start with the Czechoslovak Legion.   These guys were pretty cool.  At the outbreak of the war, a group of Czechs and Slovaks that were living in the borders
of the Russian Empire petitioned the Czar to support the independence of their homelands from Austria-Hungry in the event of an Entente victory.  To assist they formed
a small military organization and were attached to the Russian 3rd Army in October, 1914.  Their leadership desired to transform themselves into a powerful military
force but for that they needed more man power.   While the practice was officially banned, they recruited more Czechs and Slovaks from POW camps and also through
gaining a number of deserters from the Austrian-Hungarian army.

The unit would fight well and they were the only group to have success during the disastrous Kerensky Campaign of 1917.  It's failure would hasten the fall of the Czar
and in the Autumn of 1917 the Bolsheviks would make their move. They would take over Moscow and Saint Petersburg and began talks with Germany and Austria-Hungry
on ending the conflict.  In early March, 1918 the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed and Russia was officially out of the war.   A large portion of the Ukraine was ceded
to the Central Powers and this was were the Legion was based at the time.  They were very nearly cutoff and surrounded by the Germans and they had to fight
their way out in a 5 day retreat.  Eventually they were safe but where to go?  They wanted to get back into the War but they couldn't go West, North - the Bolsheviks
and Germans were too strong.  They considering heading South but that was full of uncertainties.   So they decided to head East.  The plan was to cross all of Russia
and then pick up transport in Vladivostok which would then take them around the World to France where they could get back in the fight.  Wow.

The trip was painfully slow.  Most of the rail lines were packed with German and Austrian POWs headed home in the opposite direction after the treaty was signed.
When Berlin learned that were over 60,000 soldiers trying to join the Entente they were none to pleased and they demanded that the Bolshevik's stop them.  The
communist's were worried of renewed hostilities and they complied.   On May 14th the Bolsheviks closed the rail line at Chelyabinsk some 1,000 miles east of
Moscow.  The Legion won easily and an all out war broke out between the Legion and the Bolsheviks.  It doesn't seem like it was much of a contest.  They became
an army of the rails and they began seizing territory all along the Trans-Siberian Railway. By the summer of 1918 they were in control of a strip running from the
Volga River all the way to the Pacific.

They converted the trains into essentially rolling cities with barracks, bakeries, workshops and hospitals.  Some of the rail cars were fitted out with heavy artillery
and were fortified.   They also managed to liberate a substantial haul of the Czar's gold reserves and took that with them too.   They allied themselves with the
White Russians and as they closed in on  Yekaterinburg the Reds were worried that the Legion might yet save the Czar so the entire family was liquidated.


The Legion continued eastward to Vladivostok where they would link up with a multinational force of American, Canadian, British, French, Italian and Japanese troops that
had arrived their to secure their escape route.   We'll discuss in the next post.


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Here is a 10 minute audio segment on the Legion:
https://www.radio.cz/mp3/podcast/en/czechs/100818-the-czechoslovak-legions-myth-reality-gold-and-glory.mp3

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #292 on: October 01, 2018, 12:38:18 AM »
Fascinating.  Looking forward to part two.  Thanks, Walks. 

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #293 on: October 01, 2018, 12:56:49 AM »
Fascinating.  Looking forward to part two.  Thanks, Walks.

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #294 on: October 01, 2018, 12:58:08 AM »
From the Imperial War Museum, October 1, 1918.

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A head and shoulders portrait of Lawrence in Arab headdress.  Painted by James McBey, on October 1, 1918.  (One can perhaps attribute McBey's position as a successful and respectable outsider in the art world to his being self-taught, a characteristic that has sometimes irritated the establishment. It seems entirely in keeping with this impression we have of the artist that, while recording everything he saw as he went through Palestine and Syria with the British Expeditionary Force between 1917 and 1918, he also chose to paint the portrait of another outsider, Lawrence of Arabia, albeit one who was rapidly becoming a celebrity.)
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Fifth Battle of Ypres. Royal Artillery limbers and pack mules of the 29th Division on the Menin Road at Hooge, 1 October 1918. Note a crater in the foreground.
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43rd American Balloon Company moving to a forward area by means of both motor and horse transport. Bertran Farm, 1 October 1918.
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Battle of Ypres. A prisoner with a man of the 2nd Battalion, Royal Fusiliers, 29th Division by the side of the Menin Road at Gheluvelt, 1 October 1918.
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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #295 on: October 01, 2018, 11:52:04 AM »
From the Imperial War Museum, October 1, 1918.

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I was interested to learn a few years ago that our military, and presumably some others (?,) still have official painters whose job is to paint war scenes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Art_Program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_official_war_artists

An example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Fay

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« Reply #296 on: October 02, 2018, 02:13:05 AM »
I was interested to learn a few years ago that our military, and presumably some others (?,) still have official painters whose job is to paint war scenes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Art_Program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_official_war_artists

An example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Fay

Interesting.  Thanks mr. a.

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« Reply #297 on: October 02, 2018, 02:28:15 AM »
From the Imperial War Museum, October 2, 1918.

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A British Mark IV female tank, captured and used by the Germans, blown up by a mine and destroyed by French artillery. North of Perthes, 2 October 1918.
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A French Renault FT-17 tank, serial number 3151, on the road near St. Julien, 2 October 1918.
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Battle of the St. Quentin Canal. Men of the 137th Brigade (46th Division) on a bank of the St Quentin Canal, which the brigade crossed on 29 September 1918. Near Bellenglise, 2 October 1918.
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Battle of St. Quentin Canal. Brigadier-General John Vaughan Campbell VC addressing men of the 137th Brigade (46th Division) on the Riqueval Bridge over the St. Quentin Canal (part of the German's Hindenburg Line) which they crossed on 29 September 1918.
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Battle of St Quentin Canal (Saint-Quentin). Prisoners in a clearing depot at Abbeville, 2nd October 1918.
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A prisoner taken in the Battle of St Quentin Canal (Saint-Quentin) at a Clearing Depot, Abbeville, 2nd October 1918.
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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #298 on: October 03, 2018, 01:19:43 AM »
From the Library of Congress.  The Ashland (Oregon) Tidings, October 3, 1918.

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Re: The 100 Years Ago Thread
« Reply #299 on: October 03, 2018, 11:34:45 AM »
WRT to the pic of the French FT-17 Tank. That specific model was a FT-17 SA model meaning it had a short barreled 37mm cannon in the turret. The most common model was equipped with a IIRC 7.5mm Hotchkiss machine gun.

A third and even rarer model was also produced. The FT-17 BS had a short barrel 75mm cannon that fired a pretty potent HE round for it's time.

According to wiki on 40 or so of 930 were produced before the end of the war.

I remember coming across a pic or two of them being used in action. Where I can't remember.

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This pic is during testing IIRC
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