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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2018, 10:45:13 AM »
ISIS is now taking credit for the fires and promises more.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2018, 11:37:30 AM »
Aaak. Spoke too soon. Overcast was gone by 9:00. Hot and dry again - currently 22% humidity. It's giving me (another) headache. At least the wind has stopped

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2018, 12:13:21 PM »
ISIS is now taking credit for the fires and promises more.

They take credit for everything so call me skeptical.  Though Spain, Greece, etc has had a history of "migrants" setting fires, as have we. Homeless also. And just crazy firebugs. But often, as seems to possibly be the case at least in one case, faulty electric grid maintenance (hey Norry get on this.  ;) ) are often a cause.  As are accidents like discarded cigarettes, trailer chains, welding, and field work. Frankly I'm surprised when they can identify the source of some of these wild fires but, apparently, they can.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2018, 02:07:38 PM »
They take credit for everything so call me skeptical.  Though Spain, Greece, etc has had a history of "migrants" setting fires, as have we. Homeless also. And just crazy firebugs. But often, as seems to possibly be the case at least in one case, faulty electric grid maintenance (hey Norry get on this.  ;) ) are often a cause.  As are accidents like discarded cigarettes, trailer chains, welding, and field work. Frankly I'm surprised when they can identify the source of some of these wild fires but, apparently, they can.

When the winds whipped up so badly in San Diego (gusts up to 80 mph) SDGE shut power off in some areas due to concern that power lines might fall. A pain but very smart
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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2018, 02:14:12 PM »
When the winds whipped up so badly in San Diego (gusts up to 80 mph) SDGE shut power off in some areas due to concern that power lines might fall. A pain but very smart
Yeah, better safe than sorry and some inconvenience rather than risk some more fires. A few years back one of our bad fires was started by the wind knocking a line down and another was a guy on his tractor shredding and the chains hit a rock and another who was welding. Or so they say, in the latter ones it was reported by the guys but spread so quick it was too late to put out before it spread. It is amazingly scary how quickly fires can move. One time I saw a fire start up in the median from someone's trailer chain drooping down on the highway and sparking. It was put out quickly and had nowhere to go but it is not hard in dry conditions for things to start. Keep safe.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2018, 04:10:26 PM »
Yeah, better safe than sorry and some inconvenience rather than risk some more fires. A few years back one of our bad fires was started by the wind knocking a line down and another was a guy on his tractor shredding and the chains hit a rock and another who was welding. Or so they say, in the latter ones it was reported by the guys but spread so quick it was too late to put out before it spread. It is amazingly scary how quickly fires can move. One time I saw a fire start up in the median from someone's trailer chain drooping down on the highway and sparking. It was put out quickly and had nowhere to go but it is not hard in dry conditions for things to start. Keep safe.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2018, 04:25:09 PM »
Back in 1998, there were severe forest fires across northeast Florida where I lived. The combination was heavy rainfall in the winter leading to heavy underbrush growth, then a late spring drought, low humidity and high winds. There was a guy from one of the state's universities that had developed a fire resisting compound.  He went out and sprayed it on a couple of houses near Daytona Beach, and while the forest and homes surrounding them burned to the ground, these two houses survived with only singing.  I wonder what happened to that stuff.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2018, 05:43:18 PM »
Back in 1998, there were severe forest fires across northeast Florida where I lived. The combination was heavy rainfall in the winter leading to heavy underbrush growth, then a late spring drought, low humidity and high winds. There was a guy from one of the state's universities that had developed a fire resisting compound.  He went out and sprayed it on a couple of houses near Daytona Beach, and while the forest and homes surrounding them burned to the ground, these two houses survived with only singing.  I wonder what happened to that stuff.
New stuff? I know they drop fire retardant all the time on fires but maybe there are different kinds. Sadly a lot of times bureaucratic rules inhibit fire-fighting I see this happened in California recently also.

Some years back here: 
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2011/09/firefighting-dc-10-remains-grounded.html

More currently: 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worlds-largest-firefighting-aircraft-grounded-by-u-s-govt/

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2018, 08:20:11 PM »
Back in 1998, there were severe forest fires across northeast Florida where I lived. The combination was heavy rainfall in the winter leading to heavy underbrush growth, then a late spring drought, low humidity and high winds. There was a guy from one of the state's universities that had developed a fire resisting compound.  He went out and sprayed it on a couple of houses near Daytona Beach, and while the forest and homes surrounding them burned to the ground, these two houses survived with only singing.  I wonder what happened to that stuff.
There are a few companies that make that if I recall correctly. One was a spray on liquid that you would coat your house's exterior with, another was a gel product to apply to the exterior, and there was also a foam based product. They supposedly worked well when embers in the air would land on the house, they would not allow the fire to spread to the structure.

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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2018, 02:36:21 AM »
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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2018, 03:39:55 PM »
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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2018, 08:21:27 PM »
Just to put everything in perspective.  Fires are way down compared to the first half of the 20th Century.


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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2018, 10:16:47 PM »
Just to put everything in perspective.  Fires are way down compared to the first half of the 20th Century.


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Re: New Epidemic: Fires
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