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Title: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on July 05, 2018, 01:34:57 PM
Here is a thread for the people who enjoys anything that flies.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 06, 2018, 07:02:41 AM
Live from the Canary Islands.  People watching and chatting about - nothing really.   :D


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 08, 2018, 04:24:16 AM
Built for comfort - the Bristol Brabazon airliner

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Mr Apnea on July 09, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
Yahoo!!!  No more Dash 8.


(Bloomberg) — A chapter of U.S. air travel came to a quiet end on July 4 when the final turboprop flight at American Airlines Group Inc. landed on Maryland’s Eastern Shore at dusk.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 19, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
49 years on Saturday. Wow.

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https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599 (https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599)
Title: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:18:30 PM
Title: Re: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:24:32 PM


People in youtube chat talking about flat earth and that this is fake.  ;) :-[
Title: Re: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:27:41 PM
People in youtube chat talking about flat earth and that this is fake.  ;) :-[

That shit is soooooo played out.................
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
Now that is a pretty cool camera angle
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:42:02 PM
Now that is a pretty cool camera angle

Weird, I can't figure out what I am looking at. Is that some kind of giant demonic alien throwing a glowing orb or one trying to grab the craft lest it pierces the dome over the flat earth and thus lets the "truth" be known to humanity about the arcologies and crystalline domes on other planets and moons?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Weird, I can't figure out what I am looking at. Is that some kind of giant demonic alien throwing a glowing orb or one trying to grab the craft lest it pierces the dome over the flat earth and thus lets the "truth" be known to humanity about the arcologies and crystalline domes on other planets and moons?

I just went into theater mode and it clipped off that chat    ;D
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
Solar Arrays are deployed.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:49:38 PM
I just went into theater mode and it clipped off that chat    ;D

I don't know what you did but I demand an RCH imaging panel investigation in which I can listen to the audio only because that initial pic looked weird and I think might just, with some imaging panelist investigations, reformatting, light and balance adjustment, rescanning, etc offer up the proof we are looking for!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
I don't know what you did but I demand an RCH imaging panel investigation in which I can listen to the audio only because that initial pic looked weird and I think might just, with some imaging panelist investigations, reformatting, light and balance adjustment, rescanning, etc offer up the proof we are looking for!

Or reach out to the Mad Martian to get the real deal
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
Or reach out to the Mad Martian to get the real deal

Indeed, second opinions are a good idea when such an important issue!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 21, 2018, 07:13:33 PM
http://texashillcountry.com/plane-crashes-flames-hill-country/ (http://texashillcountry.com/plane-crashes-flames-hill-country/)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on July 22, 2018, 03:32:54 AM
I saw this one day while traveling.  Not an aircraft you see every day.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 22, 2018, 04:53:59 AM
I saw this one day while traveling.  Not an aircraft you see every day.

That's pretty awesome.  Had to look that one up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga-Dnepr_Airlines
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on July 22, 2018, 04:58:09 AM
That's pretty awesome.  Had to look that one up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga-Dnepr_Airlines
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 22, 2018, 05:18:57 AM
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.

Well the NC National Guard recently deployed to Afghanistan, so perhaps Ivan was moving their equipment for them.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 22, 2018, 01:02:54 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: yorkshire pud on July 22, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
Sqn Ldr Geoffrey 'Boy' Wellum DFC, the youngest RAF pilot to fight in the BoB has died aged 96.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 23, 2018, 09:49:08 PM
A Grumman Avenger gunner is buried at sea in his aircraft


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 27, 2018, 05:58:10 AM
Live from Oshkosh

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Desmond on August 03, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.

Definitely CLT.   I spend a lot of time there.  :)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 12, 2018, 06:59:33 AM
The 1943 St. Louis Glider Accident

Poor quality control takes out a good hunk of the St Louis city leadership when a combat glider loses it's wing.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on August 15, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
https://theaviationist.com/2018/08/13/exclusive-check-out-these-incredible-photos-taken-last-week-of-the-massive-stratolaunch-space-plane/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on August 18, 2018, 04:36:17 PM
Fuck me.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 18, 2018, 04:42:48 PM
Fuck me.


Barthur is a man of many talents.   
Title: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 24, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
@Rikki Gins  posted a picture of a postcard of a Vickers Viscount the other day.   

The Wikipedia page for the Viscount indicated that the last one left service in 2009 with GTRA Airways in the Congo.  So I thought I'd poke around and see what I could find on
Vickers Viscount 9Q-COD.  It was delivered to British European Airways on July 25th, 1957 and stayed in service with that airline until 1973 when a merger moved it to British Airways.
British Airways would keep it in service until January 16, 1981 where it would then bounce around between British Air Ferries, Oasis Oil, Esso Standard Oil, Polar Airways, Euroair Transport, Airwing 2000
and British World Airlines until the end of the millennium. 

From there it would head to Africa with stops at airlines in Togo, South Africa, the Ivory Coast and Benin  before finally being acquired by GTRA Airways in the Democratic Republic of Congo on June 15th, 2004.  It would stay in service in up until 2009.  It was then apparently offered up for sale for $250,000.  Without any takers the aircraft was left out in the elements in Kinshasa.
With 50,631 total landings behind it there would be no more.

In 2012, an enthusiast from viscountvickers.net (there's a dot net for *everything*) traveled to the Congo to look at the possibility of saving the aircraft.  By then it was in bad shape and it
was determined to be not worth the effort and expense to save it.   In 2015 the aircraft disappeared off Google Earth and was apparently scrapped.

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Here is the complete history of this plane -> http://www.vickersviscount.net/Index/VickersViscount170History.aspx







Title: Re: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Kingfish on September 24, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
@Rikki Gins  posted a picture of a postcard of a Vickers Viscount the other day.   

The Wikipedia page for the Viscount indicated that the last one left service in 2009 with GTRA Airways in the Congo.  So I thought I'd poke around and see what I could find on
Vickers Viscount 9Q-COD.  It was delivered to British European Airways on July 25th, 1957 and stayed in service with that airline until 1973 when a merger moved it to British Airways.
British Airways would keep it in service until January 16, 1981 where it would then bounce around between British Air Ferries, Oasis Oil, Esso Standard Oil, Polar Airways, Euroair Transport, Airwing 2000
and British World Airlines until the end of the millennium. 

From there it would head to Africa with stops at airlines in Togo, South Africa, the Ivory Coast and Benin  before finally being acquired by GTRA Airways in the Democratic Republic of Congo on June 15th, 2004.  It would stay in service in up until 2009.  It was then apparently offered up for sale for $250,000.  Without any takers the aircraft was left out in the elements in Kinshasa.
With 50,631 total landings behind it there would be no more.

In 2012, an enthusiast from viscountvickers.net (there's a dot net for *everything*) traveled to the Congo to look at the possibility of saving the aircraft.  By then it was in bad shape and it
was determined to be not worth the effort and expense to save it.   In 2015 the aircraft disappeared off Google Earth and was apparently scrapped.

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Here is the complete history of this plane -> http://www.vickersviscount.net/Index/VickersViscount170History.aspx

http://www.rhodesian.com.au/memoriam%20viscounts.php
Title: Re: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Rikki Gins on September 24, 2018, 11:16:23 PM
http://www.rhodesian.com.au/memoriam%20viscounts.php

Wow!  That had to have sucked big time.  You survive a horrendous plane crash only to get gunned down by a bunch of g-d d----d terrorists.  Horrible!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 25, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
Very sobering documentary on the B-26.  The second mission against the Germans resulted in the loss of the entire flight of aircraft.  None returned.
Several actual B-26 personnel appear in this film.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on September 28, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
Lost an F-35B today. Hope the pilot is ok.

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/09/28/an-f-35b-has-crashed-near-marine-corps-air-station-beaufort/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 01, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
http://www.historicracer.com/aviation/accidental-fighter-pilot/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: 2Lord2Grantham on October 01, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
The 1943 St. Louis Glider Accident

The History Guy is a cool channel, he talks a lot about lesser known WWII incidents. I had no idea the Japanese shelled the continental US from a submarine during the first few months of the war.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on October 01, 2018, 02:48:44 PM
The History Guy is a cool channel, he talks a lot about lesser known WWII incidents. I had no idea the Japanese shelled the continental US from a submarine during the first few months of the war.

And bombed it with a submarine launched seaplane as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 02, 2018, 08:43:38 PM
Just a simulation but a horrifying one..........................  Russian pilot lets his boy have a go at the controls.


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 08, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
Again a simulation but what an awful, crazy thing to cause a crash.  Plane was leaving Shanghai and cleared for 1,500 meters altitude which they were about at.
First Officer gets confused and thinks they should be at 1,500 feet, so the pilot puts the plane (loaded with freight)  in a 35 degree dive and splatters it.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on October 09, 2018, 04:15:21 PM
Again a simulation but what an awful, crazy thing to cause a crash.  Plane was leaving Shanghai and cleared for 1,500 meters altitude which they were about at.
First Officer gets confused and thinks they should be at 1,500 feet, so the pilot puts the plane (loaded with freight)  in a 35 degree dive and splatters it.



Those pesky units.




Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 09, 2018, 04:38:06 PM
Those pesky units.






NASA and Titan performed IV&V on the spacecraft flight software to ensure it would work properly. They would not pay us to look at the ground Software. That is how most missions are handled. I am not sure if it is still the same philosophy but the only ground software we had any involvement in was the redesign of the shuttle launch software at KSC and then from the beginning we were involved in the requirements for the ground and flight software for JWST.

Mission Control Software at JSC was never subject to IV&V.

Dan Golden had a saying when he was pushing all organizations to develop performance metrics. “If you can’t measure it you can’t manage it.” 

I added a corollary for when I would teach my widely accepted class on metrics. . “If you are going to measure it, make sure everyone is using the same unit of measurement.”

p.s. If the ground controllers would have had the discipline to investigate why the course corrections kept being much more than expected, or if they had simulated the next leg with the new course updates they woukd have realized the problem with months to spare. They made the cardinal error by blindly trusting their own software and made the assumption something was wrong with the spacecraft that kept requiring larger and larger course corrections.
Title: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
Will try and learn more about what is going on

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1050492487108894722
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Aircraft is still aloft:  https://www.flightradar24.com/AAL263/1e2d26f3

Seems like a whole lot of bad luck.  Passenger had a cardiac arrest and attempted emergency landing at Edmonton was scrubbed
due to mechanical issues.   Seems like they are dumping fuel and going to Calgary
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
Looks like they are going for it.   Good luck AAL263
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
Almost there
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:59:25 PM
Looks like they are down and help in the form of emergency vehicles is on the way

Hopefully the medical situation turns out okay.................
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Evil Twin Of Zen on October 13, 2018, 01:46:06 AM
USS Macon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29

attached images are of Hanger One from 1977 at NAS Moffett Field.
also an image of my first big toy in Adak, Alaska.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 02:02:13 AM
USS Macon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29

attached images are of Hanger One from 1977 at NAS Moffett Field.
also an image of my first big toy in Adak, Alaska.

Most of the astronaut simulator training was accomplished at JSC using two fixed base and one motion based simulators. Moffet Field (Ames) has a very unique simulator called the Vertical Motion Simulator (VMS). It provided a real “seat of the pants” feel for simulated Shuttle landings, especially when simulating blown tires and crosswind landings. It didn’t have a high fidelity cockpit. And it didn’t have actual Shuttle seats.

I flew the simulator with Dick Covey after Dick had retired as an astronaut. It was quite an experience.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/technology-onepagers/vms.html

The hangar is still there. Today I believe Google leases it from NASA.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Evil Twin Of Zen on October 13, 2018, 02:35:34 AM
Most of the astronaut simulator training was accomplished at JSC using two fixed base and one motion based simulators. Moffet Field (Ames) has a very unique simulator called the Vertical Motion Simulator (VMS). It provided a real “seat of the pants” feel for simulated Shuttle landings, especially when simulating blown tires and crosswind landings. It didn’t have a high fidelity cockpit. And it didn’t have actual Shuttle seats.

I flew the simulator with Dick Covey after Dick had retired as an astronaut. It was quite an experience.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/technology-onepagers/vms.html

The hangar is still there. Today I believe Google leases it from NASA.

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last i had heard was that it had to be torn down, but was being restored. i mainly recall it being really big and full of bats. you could feel the "pressure" of the bats screeching on your ear drums. the clam-shell doors were still operational when i was stationed there and would be opened during the various airshows. i flew a Beechcraft  Bonanza thru it a few times.... in a micorsoft flight sim.  8)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on October 13, 2018, 04:19:06 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 07:48:41 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 13, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html

There's not even 200 of them.  Makes one wonder why they wouldn't have moved them well before the storm.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 08:23:27 PM
There's not even 200 of them.  Makes one wonder why they wouldn't have moved them well before the storm.

They flew out as many as they could. I saw one report that says there may have been 22 that weren’t flight worthy. I saw some aerial footage that clearly showed some in hangars that had collapsed. Looked like C-130s and maybe P-3s in the hangars as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on October 14, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-13/hurricane-cost-may-skyrocket-billions-stealth-fighter-jets-unaccounted-tyndall-afb

Hey, let's hope it was the non-functioning "not always flight-worthy"  F-22s were the ones lost?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on January 16, 2019, 06:34:22 PM
Dem see black bird inside Singapore Airlines plane wey nobody know wia e come from

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https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-46862105

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Whistler on January 24, 2019, 10:11:32 PM
10 worst aircraft of all time.

http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/ (http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/)

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 24, 2019, 10:25:15 PM
10 worst aircraft of all time.

http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/ (http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/)

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I will admit I clicked on the link just to make sure they included the F-104.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on January 29, 2019, 08:47:58 PM
Wal-mart has a FBO (fix base operator) and here is their Web Site.
http://www.beaverlakeaviation.com/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on February 23, 2019, 06:01:19 PM
767 nosedived into the water not far from me. Amazon Prime cargo plane.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-remains-found-where-texas-cargo-plane-carrying-at-least-3-crashed-survivors-unlikely-officials-say
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 23, 2019, 06:15:30 PM
767 nosedived into the water not far from me. Amazon Prime cargo plane.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-remains-found-where-texas-cargo-plane-carrying-at-least-3-crashed-survivors-unlikely-officials-say

I had not heard about this.  Terrible news..............
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on February 28, 2019, 01:09:48 AM
Amazing sight lines for takeoffs and landings.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on March 01, 2019, 09:49:30 AM
It's with a 4K video like this that I appreciate fully a 4K TV...

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 01, 2019, 02:37:01 PM
How planes are born.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: 26 horses on March 01, 2019, 02:52:22 PM
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on March 13, 2019, 01:27:13 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 22, 2019, 01:59:16 AM
Ouch!

https://i.imgur.com/56IOZbB.mp4
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 17, 2021, 04:00:24 PM
Time to dust this baby off now that @Uncle Duke is here
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 17, 2021, 04:08:18 PM
US Air Force Forgot How To Make Parts Of Its Own B2 Stealth Bomber And Now Wants To Reverse Engineer It
https://greatgameindia.com/air-force-reverse-engineer-b2-bomber/

What's the scoop here? The little old man that designed the heat exchanger on the B-2 passed and took all the secrets with him?
The specs got lost in a move?  The IBM PS/2 Model 57 SLC the files were on died and there were no backups?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 17, 2021, 06:04:26 PM
US Air Force Forgot How To Make Parts Of Its Own B2 Stealth Bomber And Now Wants To Reverse Engineer It
https://greatgameindia.com/air-force-reverse-engineer-b2-bomber/

What's the scoop here? The little old man that designed the heat exchanger on the B-2 passed and took all the secrets with him?
The specs got lost in a move?  The IBM PS/2 Model 57 SLC the files were on died and there were no backups?

The B-2 was designed on an early CAD/CAM system, certainly the first aircraft program I worked on where such a system was used.  Most of that early work was done at a now defunct Northrop facility in Pico Rivera, CA, then everything was moved to Plant 42 in Palmdale.   I know the plan was to destroy the jigs and tooling at the end of production, but I don't know if subsystems like heat exchangers were designed/built by Northrop or one of their subcontractors.  It's doubtful they were classified in and of themselves, but their end item usage and interfaces with the a/c probably were.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 17, 2021, 08:52:09 PM
Good to see you, Duke.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 23, 2021, 09:50:17 AM
https://theaviationist.com/2021/03/23/ejection-seats-activation-during-preflight-operations-on-russian-tu-22m3-bomber-kills-three-crew-members/

Poor guys never had a chance.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 23, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
https://theaviationist.com/2021/03/23/ejection-seats-activation-during-preflight-operations-on-russian-tu-22m3-bomber-kills-three-crew-members/

Poor guys never had a chance.

So the AC commander/instructor triggered the ejection during preflight and was the only survivor.  Not a good day for Russian military aviation on many levels.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 23, 2021, 01:50:28 PM
So the AC commander/instructor triggered the ejection during preflight and was the only survivor.  Not a good day for Russian military aviation on many levels.

An educated guess is the guy got one of the belts of his restraint system tangled in the seat initiation handle and tried to pull it loose.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 23, 2021, 02:57:37 PM
An educated guess is the guy got one of the belts of his restraint system tangled in the seat initiation handle and tried to pull it loose.

Tragic. One would think there would be a switch housing that’s cover had to be raised manually to access the switch.  I believe that’s standard in Navy A/C as per NATOPS. I suppose if he was wrestling with his restraint system and exerted upward pressure to open the box and caught the toggle just right he could defeat that safeguard.

I’m basing the above on knowledge I picked up from sitting on a court martial board.  The same is true of fuel dump switches.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 27, 2021, 08:18:16 AM
Nice little video here on the Martin Mars. Two of them are still being using to fight forest fires 70 years after being built.  Was just reading how they are having to limit the flight hours of the F-35 because they break so much.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on April 03, 2021, 01:44:57 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40003/the-worlds-most-secretive-737-just-showed-its-bizarre-self-over-the-mojave-desert
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on April 03, 2021, 06:23:54 PM
The Tragic Downfall Of Air Alaska Flight 261 | Mayday S1 EP5 | Wonder

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on April 17, 2021, 11:40:46 PM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on April 18, 2021, 12:27:41 AM

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on April 18, 2021, 06:37:53 AM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/

Meh. It's been done already.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on April 18, 2021, 10:29:43 AM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/

There are a surprising number of TBFs/TBMs still around these days, most of them were aerial fire bombers used or hired by the Forest Service.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on May 13, 2021, 09:08:41 AM
https://samchui.com/2021/05/13/mid-air-collision-on-key-lime-air-metroliner-and-sr-22/#.YJ1JvzMpA0N
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 13, 2021, 09:46:02 AM
https://samchui.com/2021/05/13/mid-air-collision-on-key-lime-air-metroliner-and-sr-22/#.YJ1JvzMpA0N

Yikes. Listened to the ATC recording. Mister Key Lime is the chillest dude on the block.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on May 18, 2021, 10:29:19 PM
Oops

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/05/18/2-us-military-pilots-eject-qatari-f-15-illinois-airport.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 24, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
Bird down at Nellis:
https://twitter.com/KE6ZGP/status/1396940119832104960
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on May 24, 2021, 05:29:55 PM
Bird down at Nellis:
https://twitter.com/KE6ZGP/status/1396940119832104960

Another controlled burn like your PAVE PAWS announcement?

Draken Mirage fighter. Must have been an aggressor squadron ac. Got confused for a second. Draken is a Swedish fighter but the company that operates the adversary training aircraft is named Draken as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 27, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
Fun video of a guy in New Guinea

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on June 05, 2021, 01:18:45 AM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on June 12, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
http://goldenageflightmuseum.org/
https://www.castleairmuseum.org/
https://aerospaceca.org
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 15, 2021, 08:40:57 PM
Hawaii-Based F-22s Scrambled On FAA's Request But Nobody Will Say Why

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Apair of F-22 Raptors were launched on an alert scramble out of Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam on Sunday at around 4:00 PM local time. A third F-22 joined the mission about an hour after pair's departure. A KC-135 was also launched to support the fighters. Hawaii News Now reports that the scramble, described as an "irregular patrol," was initiated at the request of the Federal Aviation Administration, which reported an 'incident,' although nobody is providing any clear information in regards to what that catalyst for the prolonged scramble mission was.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41089/hawaii-based-f-22s-scrambled-on-faas-request-but-nobody-will-say-why
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 15, 2021, 08:49:28 PM
Oldie but a goodie

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 23, 2021, 09:13:42 AM
Haven't watched yet but Greg is usually pretty good and well.  The P-38 is pretty special........

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 24, 2021, 06:02:11 AM
The Most Replayed Carrier Crash In History Happened 70 Years Ago Today

https://share.smartnews.com/z5pM9

Watch carefully and you can see the pilot's helmet rolling down the flight deck.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 24, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
Scratch one Herky Bird

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1408089531648118786
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 24, 2021, 11:30:29 AM
Scratch one Herky Bird

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1408089531648118786

Whatever they used took the port wing off at the wing root. Doubtful a MANPAD like an SA-7/SA-16 would do that, nor would small arms or light AAA.  Wonder if those guys have big boy SAMs?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on June 24, 2021, 12:36:00 PM
The Most Replayed Carrier Crash In History Happened 70 Years Ago Today

https://share.smartnews.com/z5pM9

Watch carefully and you can see the pilot's helmet rolling down the flight deck.

That was great, Duke!  I loved the Midway clip where Heston's prop-driven plane magically turns into a jet after hitting the carrier.
Title: 737 down off of Oahu
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 02, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1410965691931496453
Title: Re: 737 down off of Oahu
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 02, 2021, 07:30:08 PM
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1410965691931496453

Play by Play of this incident.


Coastguardsmen discuss the rescue - seems like the down fliers were in a bad way when they fished them out. 

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 16, 2021, 07:35:08 PM
3 of the Presidential helicopters flew over me today in Rockville.  I was walking back from a grocery store and had my hands full so I didn’t get a chance to take a picture.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 16, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
3 of the Presidential helicopters flew over me today in Rockville.  I was walking back from a grocery store and had my hands full so I didn’t get a chance to take a picture.

They are rather impressive.   
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 16, 2021, 07:45:47 PM
"My name is Ray. Fly me"

https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1415808341872414724
Title: Stuka time!
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 10, 2021, 03:26:22 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on August 17, 2021, 12:43:35 PM


Crash of a Russian military transport prototype earlier today.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 28, 2021, 07:29:09 AM
Some fine 4FU action

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 16, 2021, 11:12:32 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.   
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 16, 2021, 01:18:50 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.

Perfect for long range SAR into the depths of the Pacific and Indian oceans where choppers do not have the range. Plus dropping guys and equipment off on little atolls.

There is gonna be another war Duke.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 24, 2021, 06:51:47 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 24, 2021, 07:59:45 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587
Does the FBI know what this is?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 25, 2021, 09:47:12 AM
Does the FBI know what this is?
What is going on in this world @Walks_At_Night  :o

https://twitter.com/MoNDefense/status/1441764823256080385
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 25, 2021, 11:23:50 AM
What is going on in this world @Walks_At_Night  :o

https://twitter.com/MoNDefense/status/1441764823256080385

Analyzing the ROC's response I guess @FISH   Seeing what they can learn and maybe even trigger an incident.  They can't be too worried about the ROC's submarines. They only have four and two of those are former US Navy boats built during World War Two. Nothing wrong with diesel-electric boats  (https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/june/theres-case-diesels) but at almost 80 years old I am sure the crews worry aout ever surfacing again once they pop under.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 26, 2021, 08:23:21 AM
Analyzing the ROC's response I guess @FISH   Seeing what they can learn and maybe even trigger an incident.  They can't be too worried about the ROC's submarines. They only have four and two of those are former US Navy boats built during World War Two. Nothing wrong with diesel-electric boats  (https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/june/theres-case-diesels) but at almost 80 years old I am sure the crews worry aout ever surfacing again once they pop under.
A good read.
Meanwhile the People’s Republic of China is building the world’s largest submarine factory, a facility to build four subs at a time.6 Russia has built 13 submarines in the past decade.
 "I worry" about the future. The China Syndrome in 2021.  :'(
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 26, 2021, 09:50:19 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587

I would bet that's not a real a/c, or even a model representing a real or developmental a/c.  I think it's calibration shape used for radar cross section testing, or "pole cat" as the RCS guys call them.  If this was an actual classified a/c, there's no way it would have been that accessible.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: JUAN on September 26, 2021, 10:01:19 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.
Some dim outfit makes the floats.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 26, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Some dim outfit makes the floats.

I wondered about that as well.  Going back almost a hundred years, floats for US military floatplanes were made by a company called EDO. They were based in NY, near various east coast aircraft manufacturers (Grumman, Martin, Vought, Curtis, etc.) that built seaplanes.  They continued making floats after the military got out of the seaplane business, but eventually got swallowed up in the aerospace industry mergers post Cold War.  When I first saw that article  a few weeks ago, I tried to find out if, under new ownership, they were still in the float business.  I had no luck.

There are a handful of float manufacturers in the US, but they are primarily involved in light/civil aviation.  Lockheed, as a company, has no experience in the design, manufacture, and test of floats, so I would guess they would try to form at least an associate with some company with that experience. 

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 03, 2021, 07:26:46 PM
Well that is not good.

https://twitter.com/aviationbrk/status/1444586458350858242
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 05, 2021, 08:18:53 PM
Sucks that there are no air worthy B-36's  Would love to here those big, slow turning props churning away.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 09, 2021, 01:16:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Paul91701736/status/1446615699556761603
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on October 10, 2021, 01:57:11 PM
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1447288596885561353
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2021, 04:15:14 PM
Well that woud suck. Out working for the Big Brown Army on a nice day in San Diego.  Delivering some packages and then Boom! Death from Above.

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1447670889798115333
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 12, 2021, 04:03:47 PM
Well that woud suck. Out working for the Big Brown Army on a nice day in San Diego.  Delivering some packages and then Boom! Death from Above.

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1447670889798115333


Dude went in like a Kamikaze.  Wonder if the pilot vapor locked and was dead before he hit the ground?

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on October 12, 2021, 05:48:48 PM

Dude went in like a Kamikaze.  Wonder if the pilot vapor locked and was dead before he hit the ground?



Very grim.  I was less than 10 miles away when the GA aircraft and the Mexican DC-9 collided over Cerritos in 1986, we could see the smoke of the burning houses hit by the aircraft 

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 28, 2021, 05:42:17 PM
Amazing fellah here:

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 29, 2021, 02:27:49 AM
https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/the-longest-ever-flight-was-over-64-days-in-a-cessna-172

I’ve seen this plane but never knew the history
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 23, 2021, 07:52:36 AM


https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/usaf-video-seems-to-show-sr-72/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on November 23, 2021, 09:18:06 AM


https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/usaf-video-seems-to-show-sr-72/

Seeing the airborne retrieval of satellite film canisters brought back memories. Some day I might take the time to brag about how I discovered a systemic flaw in the way that 3 letter agencies had set up their priorities for photo reconnaissance that was shortening the life span of certain consumables on those satellites that would jettison their film canisters for airborne retrieval. A GAO audit couldn’t solve it or even begin to understand it. The flaw wouldn’t haven’t been a big deal with newer birds that had encrypted digital downlink, but the early ones only had so many film canisters.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 23, 2021, 10:52:28 AM
Seeing the airborne retrieval of satellite film canisters brought back memories. Some day I might take the time to brag about how I discovered a systemic flaw in the way that 3 letter agencies had set up their priorities for photo reconnaissance that was shortening the life span of certain consumables on those satellites that would jettison their film canisters for airborne retrieval. A GAO audit couldn’t solve it or even begin to understand it. The flaw wouldn’t haven’t been a big deal with newer birds that had encrypted digital downlink, but the early ones only had so many film canisters.

Early in my career I worked with a retired C-119 loadmaster who, although he never flew any of the canister retrieval missions, told us youngsters about them.  I remember him telling us, "You only see the film of missions where they caught them, not the failures."
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 24, 2021, 08:58:52 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.

https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/usaf-meets-with-japanese-navy-to-learn-about-amphibious-aircraft-operations/146517.article?utm_campaign=FG-DEFENCE-WL%20GORE_Flightsafety_24112021-JM&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=FG-DEFENCE-WL%20GORE_Flightsafety_24112021-JM

Looks like the AFSOC folks at least are seriously looking at seaplane operations.  Wonder if any one in a position of authority has considered just buying this Japanese amphibian, or maybe having a US company build it under licences.  We've done the latter before with a/c like the Harrier and B-57 Canberra.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 24, 2021, 02:04:08 PM
F-35 down due to stupid mistake.  Flop Gun

British F-35B Crash In The Med Possibly Caused By ‘Rain Cover’ Left On During Launch
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16829088/royal-navy-fighter-jet-crash/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 24, 2021, 02:31:29 PM
F-35 down due to stupid mistake.  Flop Gun

British F-35B Crash In The Med Possibly Caused By ‘Rain Cover’ Left On During Launch
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16829088/royal-navy-fighter-jet-crash/

Yep, but I can assure you that's the best news LM and the F-35 community could have gotten. That's a maintainer  training issue that is teachable, orders of magnitude better than having had a mechanical or system failure on the aircraft. That would have resulted in a world wide JSF grounding of at least the STOVL variant while requiried redesign and retrofit/modification was completed.   I've been through that.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 29, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
Yep, but I can assure you that's the best news LM and the F-35 community could have gotten. That's a maintainer  training issue that is teachable, orders of magnitude better than having had a mechanical or system failure on the aircraft. That would have resulted in a world wide JSF grounding of at least the STOVL variant while requiried redesign and retrofit/modification was completed.   I've been through that.

Video of the incident has leaked.  Looks like something out of a Benny Hill episode.
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https://twitter.com/sebh1981/status/1465351592018956295
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 20, 2021, 07:17:28 PM
@Rikki Gins

Hey Rix,

Those sub hunting airplanes that fly by your area occasionally do find a sub. Nice picture from a P-3 Orion

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on December 20, 2021, 11:00:37 PM
@Walks_At_Night  Oh, look at that!  One of them flew some circles about a month ago but I haven't seen it since.  They also turned off whatever it is that allows the air traffic ID app to get information on them.  They were flying incognito, I guess.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 28, 2021, 06:37:18 AM
This video goes on forever - I'm only 8 minutes in but it is pretty wild. Its about a jet crash that wipes out the leaders of a dubious weight loss church.
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on December 28, 2021, 07:13:22 AM
 
This video goes on forever - I'm only 8 minutes in but it is pretty wild. Its about a jet crash that wipes out the leaders of a dubious weight loss church.
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Probably a sad case of an overweight plane.  Too much hair.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: StarrMountain on January 09, 2022, 12:09:28 PM
Marines perform boarding exercises with jetpacks and land on a high-speed ship

https://rumble.com/vs7j0i-marines-perform-boarding-exercises-with-jetpacks-and-land-on-a-high-speed-s.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Operation+Freedom&ep=2
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 10, 2022, 02:44:25 AM
One. Lucky. Pilot.

https://twitter.com/lapdhq/status/1480363436311670784
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 10, 2022, 03:36:49 AM
Another angle

https://twitter.com/drewhlive/status/1480362491498487808
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 11, 2022, 12:48:36 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43832/mystery-surrounds-faa-order-to-halt-all-west-coast-air-traffic-after-north-korea-fired-missile

This makes no sense to me.  Either someone screwed the pooch, or there's more to this than anyone is letting on.  Keep an eye on the conspiracy sites.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 13, 2022, 10:27:03 PM
@Uncle Duke and @Walks_At_Night

Did this guy intentionally crash his plane for notoriety or insurance money?

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on January 14, 2022, 12:02:59 AM
Mr. Bogus is a YouTuber and he was attempting to get a massive amount of YouTube views.   
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 14, 2022, 04:46:53 AM
Mr. Bogus is a YouTuber and he was attempting to get a massive amount of YouTube views.

Ha! Yeah Rix and Gravity.  Multiple camera angles - check. Not it only has a parachute with him which is unusual, it is *on* him from the get go. Wonder how many Federal agencies he has crawling up his ass right now? FAA, NTSB, FBI for sure. Since he turned his plane into a cruise missle - throw in the Forest Service, the BLM and since maybe the plane killed a rare snail or some shit when it crashed, the Fish and Wildlife Service. No environmental impact statement filed before the stunt?  EPA would like a word too.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on January 14, 2022, 07:58:30 AM
That video raises many questions.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 14, 2022, 03:51:55 PM
If he did it on purpose, he did so over an area that could have easily killed him.  The terrain wasn't conducive to either a safe parachute landing or survival/egress after landing. 

Early in the video, did he show a baggy of pot? 
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 14, 2022, 03:58:55 PM
If he did it on purpose, he did so over an area that could have easily killed him.  The terrain wasn't conducive to either a safe parachute landing or survival/egress after landing. 

Early in the video, did he show a baggy of pot?

Supposedly the ashes of a fallen comrade.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on January 14, 2022, 04:50:00 PM
If he did it on purpose, he did so over an area that could have easily killed him.  The terrain wasn't conducive to either a safe parachute landing or survival/egress after landing. 

Early in the video, did he show a baggy of pot?

There was a fairly large gravel field that he could have guided his parachute to, or made an emergency landing on, so said a pilot who posted a rebuttal video on YouTube.  Also, that supposed bag of cremains must have contained only a slight portion of his friend's ashes.  A regular amount of cremated remains would have filled that baggie to bursting.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 14, 2022, 06:16:55 PM
There was a fairly large gravel field that he could have guided his parachute to, or made an emergency landing on, so said a pilot who posted a rebuttal video on YouTube.  Also, that supposed bag of cremains must have contained only a slight portion of his friend's ashes.  A regular amount of cremated remains would have filled that baggie to bursting.

Or perhaps his friend was Tom Thumb?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on January 14, 2022, 06:32:37 PM
Or perhaps his friend was Tom Thumb?

LOL!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 18, 2022, 02:37:50 PM
Some cool film of the Kyushu J7W. I knew the thing existed as a prototype but have never seen film of it before.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 18, 2022, 05:50:36 PM
Some cool film of the Kyushu J7W. I knew the thing existed as a prototype but have never seen film of it before.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 18, 2022, 05:57:01 PM


Hey Walks, ever see this rascal?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 18, 2022, 06:49:46 PM
Hey Walks, ever see this rascal?

I have.  I think Northrup had something similar as well if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 18, 2022, 07:33:31 PM
I have.  I think Northrup had something similar as well if I recall correctly.

So did Vultee, they all three were competing for the same contract. I don't remember which company's a/c it was, but one of them crashed about a mile from where I live.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on January 21, 2022, 08:49:00 PM


Note at the end of the segment, the news lady asks the reporter in the field what the consequences would be if the pilot had done something unlawful and the guy totally misconstrues her question.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 25, 2022, 01:12:22 PM
https://news.usni.org/2022/01/25/crashed-f-35c-fell-off-uss-carl-vinson-flight-deck-into-south-china-sea

I think this is the first C model that's been lost.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 25, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
https://news.usni.org/2022/01/25/crashed-f-35c-fell-off-uss-carl-vinson-flight-deck-into-south-china-sea

I think this is the first C model that's been lost.

Sounds like the P.R.C. might try and go fetch it.

Race to beat China to recover $100m US F-35 stealth fighter from bottom of South China Sea after it crash landed on aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson: Fears secret technology from America's most advanced jet could fall into enemy hands (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10440323/Seven-sailors-board-USS-Carl-Vinson-South-China-Sea-injured-94-million-F-35C-fighter-jet-crashes-trying-land-deck.html)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 25, 2022, 06:08:27 PM
Sounds like the P.R.C. might try and go fetch it.

Race to beat China to recover $100m US F-35 stealth fighter from bottom of South China Sea after it crash landed on aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson: Fears secret technology from America's most advanced jet could fall into enemy hands (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10440323/Seven-sailors-board-USS-Carl-Vinson-South-China-Sea-injured-94-million-F-35C-fighter-jet-crashes-trying-land-deck.html)

Reminds me of when the Soviets tried to recover one of our F-14s.

I was at a push competition to make the us bobsled team in September 1976. The Navy bobsled team was made up of SEAL Team members. A grey gsa vehicle pulled up to the push track in Keene Valley, NY and spoke to the most senior member. He pointed to several squids and motioned for them to get into the vehicle.

I was assigned to the Intelligence division at Plattsburgh AFB with a TS clearance. The first thing I did when I got back to base was to go see what in the hell was up in the world that caused several SEAL team members to get snatched out of upstate NY.

An F14 had fallen off the deck of the John F Kennedy. Because I was reading raw intelligence the cause was not known at the time. What was known was that the Phoenix fire control radar and the AIM 54 air to air missiles were considered to be some of the most sought after hardware by Soviet intelligence.
Maybe @Uncle Duke knows the true story of the recovery. I’ve read a bunch of different accounts and none of them quite match what I eventually read in classified accounts.

The Russians did try to snag it.  That’s all I’ll say. I think the book “Beyond Top Secret” has a write up. I did try getting the details from the SEALs later on but even when I was alone with them, they wouldn’t talk. And I wasn’t going to discuss what I had read in the classified accounts. I just told them I knew why they were jerked out back in September.

We have a bunch more capability today than we did in 1976 with RPVs. I hope we get there first.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 25, 2022, 06:40:21 PM
Reminds me of when the Soviets tried to recover one of our F-14s.

I was at a push competition to make the us bobsled team in September 1976. The Navy bobsled team was made up of SEAL Team members. A grey gsa vehicle pulled up to the push track in Keene Valley, NY and spoke to the most senior member. He pointed to several squids and motioned for them to get into the vehicle.

I was assigned to the Intelligence division at Plattsburgh AFB with a TS clearance. The first thing I did when I got back to base was to go see what in the hell was up in the world that caused several SEAL team members to get snatched out of upstate NY.

An F14 had fallen off the deck of the John F Kennedy. Because I was reading raw intelligence the cause was not known at the time. What was known was that the Phoenix fire control radar and the AIM 54 air to air missiles were considered to be some of the most sought after hardware by Soviet intelligence.
Maybe @Uncle Duke knows the true story of the recovery. I’ve read a bunch of different accounts and none of them quite match what I eventually read in classified accounts.

The Russians did try to snag it.  That’s all I’ll say. I think the book “Beyond Top Secret” has a write up. I did try getting the details from the SEALs later on but even when I was alone with them, they wouldn’t talk. And I wasn’t going to discuss what I had read in the classified accounts. I just told them I knew why they were jerked out back in September.

We have a bunch more capability today than we did in 1976 with RPVs. I hope we get there first.

Cool story. In 1976 I was in college and don't remember the F-14 incident. I do recall being at Langley in 1980 when it was announced the Soviets put one of their Yak-38 VTOL fighters off a Kiev class carrier/cruiser into the South China Sea.  There was talk of the US trying to recover it, but I don't know if we did.  When I worked JSF in the late 90s I talked to a former P-3 TACCO at PAX who claimed his crew spent hours trying find it with MAD gear and other sensors.  Turns out the Yak-38 was a piece of shit, so even if we recovered it it's doubtful we learned anything of use.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 25, 2022, 08:11:00 PM
Cool story. In 1976 I was in college and don't remember the F-14 incident. I do recall being at Langley in 1980 when it was announced the Soviets put one of their Yak-38 VTOL fighters off a Kiev class carrier/cruiser into the South China Sea.  There was talk of the US trying to recover it, but I don't know if we did.  When I worked JSF in the late 90s I talked to a former P-3 TACCO at PAX who claimed his crew spent hours trying find it with MAD gear and other sensors.  Turns out the Yak-38 was a piece of shit, so even if we recovered it it's doubtful we learned anything of use.

BTW - I out pushed all of the Navy SEALs and made the team. One of them was selected as an alternate. The military was well represented that year. 17 athletes and coaches went, 9 active duty and 2 veterans. Mostly USAF. Another Navy SEAL made it as a 2 man driver and a Marine made it as a 4 man driver. Still have great memories of that year.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 31, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
Ivan says the Naval version of the F-35 is getting all crusty rusty out there at sea.
https://sputniknews.com/20220201/photos-us-navys-f-35-stealth-fighters-seem-to-be-rusting-on-south-china-sea-voyage-1092648254.html

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 01, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
Drama over on BigJet TV!

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 01, 2022, 09:49:08 AM
Drama over on BigJet TV!



Yikes!  Looks like a tail strike at about 17 seconds.  I'd be curious what they told the passengers as they were going around.

I was on a Shorts 330 flying into Newport News VA that had to abort a landing back in the early 80s.  Wasn't nearly as dramatic as the one shown here, but hearing the engines spool up within seconds of initial touchdown was an attention getter.  The pilot claimed there were deer on the runway, but who knows.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 01, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
Yikes!  Looks like a tail strike at about 17 seconds.  I'd be curious what they told the passengers as they were going around.

British Airways.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, as you probably noticed we nearly snuffed it there but all is well now"
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 01, 2022, 11:38:10 AM
British Airways.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, as you probably noticed we nearly snuffed it there but all is well now"

Never knew Alex went on to fly for BA.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 01, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Never knew Alex went on to fly for BA.

Oh yeah. He started out with DroogAir but made the jump to the big time.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 03, 2022, 11:07:39 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44057/mysterious-aircraft-spotted-at-area-51-in-unprecedented-satellite-image
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on February 05, 2022, 01:07:51 PM
@Walks_At_Night & @Uncle Duke

That P-8A Poseidon was making circles overhead yesterday.  I was out taking my walk and was able to get a couple of shots of it.  I notice that the landing gear is down, and the numerous circles that it made leads me to believe that touch and go landings were being made at the local airport.  Though why would an aircraft from a distant base in Washington (Ault Field on Whidbey Island) come all the way to an adjoining state to practice touch and goes?

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 05, 2022, 01:22:18 PM
@Walks_At_Night & @Uncle Duke

That P-8A Poseidon was making circles overhead yesterday.  I was out taking my walk and was able to get a couple of shots of it.  I notice that the landing gear is down, and the numerous circles that it made leads me to believe that touch and go landings were being made at the local airport.  Though why would an aircraft from a distant base in Washington (Ault Field on Whidbey Island) come all the way to an adjoining state to practice touch and goes?

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Guessing that the Naval Aviator at the controls doesn't look like this guy and has to learn - different airfields, locations, more flight hours etc. 

Great pictures!!!!!!!

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Post by: Rikki Gins on February 05, 2022, 02:12:18 PM
Guessing that the Naval Aviator at the controls doesn't look like this guy and has to learn - different airfields, locations, more flight hours etc. 

Great pictures!!!!!!!

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Right, that makes sense.  Thanks, WAN!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 05, 2022, 03:40:39 PM
Guessing that the Naval Aviator at the controls doesn't look like this guy and has to learn - different airfields, locations, more flight hours etc. 

Great pictures!!!!!!!

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The a/c the mature pilot is standing next to is a former Israeli Kfir, an variant of the French Mirage.  One of the dissimilar air combat contractors flies them, I think out of CA.  So that means the grandfatherly looking gent is a retired military pilot with thousands of hours time in fighters.

Those contractors operate some very cool aircraft.  Back in the late 90s I flew into Partick Henry Airport near Langley AFB, and as I was walking to my rental car I heard the loudest airplane I'd ever heard. Roaring over my head was a Swedish SAAB Draken, a beautiful "double delta" airplane. 

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 06, 2022, 12:02:28 PM
Weird one here. One of those SpaceX booster rockets perhaps?

https://twitter.com/OakRedhammer/status/1490355354483376128
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 06, 2022, 08:59:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Fighterman_FFRC/status/1490250892020383744
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 07, 2022, 05:43:08 PM
War is not fair but sheesh.  P-47's versus Ju-52's trying to land.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on February 07, 2022, 06:26:53 PM
War is not fair but sheesh.  P-47's versus Ju-52's trying to land.


Fish, meet barrel.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 08, 2022, 08:56:23 AM
Fish, meet barrel.

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@ItsOver  Here is a little payback from the Luftwaffe.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on February 08, 2022, 09:00:13 AM
@ItsOver  Here is a little payback from the Luftwaffe.


Wow... even Me-163 footage.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 08, 2022, 12:31:36 PM
The Norden bombsight at work.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 08, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
@ItsOver  Here is a little payback from the Luftwaffe.



When I was a young teenager, my Dad worked with an engineer who had flown FW-190s for the Luftwaffe.  He didn't like to talk about his WW2 experience, but for some reason he took a liking to me and we had several interesting talks.  Most of his time had been over the Eastern Front, but late in the war he flew air defense over Germany against the US and UK. 

When I asked him about the a/c he most feared, without hesitation he said, "The American Thunderbolt." He said it was almost impossible to shoot down, you could put hundreds of rounds into it but it kept flying.  Conversely, he said the liquid cooled engine on the Mustang made them much easier to knock out of the flight. Their biggest concern about the Mustang was there were so many of them.  He also spoke very highly of the Yak-9.

And like every other German, he knew nothing about the concentration camps.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 13, 2022, 06:06:00 AM
This guys property is being bombed by aerial feces which would suck but it also seems to be a plane spotting paradise which is cool.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 13, 2022, 10:12:38 AM
This guys property is being bombed by aerial feces which would suck but it also seems to be a plane spotting paradise which is cool.



Reminds me of the stories about President Truman ordering the waste storage tanks from the Presidential aircraft to be dumped over Ohio due to his hatred of Sen Bob Taft.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 17, 2022, 04:07:11 PM


Beautiful video of RAF Typhoons flying through the Mach Loop, a low level tactical training area in Wales.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: StarrMountain on February 20, 2022, 11:55:36 AM
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Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 21, 2022, 05:15:21 PM
Wildcats, Vindicators, Helldivers and whatever the F3F was called - all taking a beating.  A painful view:

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 21, 2022, 06:41:45 PM
Wildcats, Vindicators, Helldivers and whatever the F3F was called - all taking a beating.  A painful view:



Very cool.  There are a series of videos showing the Royal Navy destroying untold numbers of Seafires landing aboard their carriers.  The Seafire was a bitch to deck land due to their narrow undercarriage and long nose, and being a derivative of the Spitfire they were not all that robust.  British carriers were also smaller than US carriers. The Brits lost far more Seafires to landing accidents than they did enemy action. Beautiful airplane, but not suited to carrier ops.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 06, 2022, 01:32:40 PM
Well they haven’t gotten all of the Antonovs.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 06, 2022, 02:00:27 PM
Well they haven’t gotten all of the Antonovs.



A few days, maybe a week, before the Russian invasion, I followed a Ukrainian An-24's flight to Nellis AFB on one of the flight tracking apps. I've been watching that specific a/c ever since, it's flying in and out of a Romanian airport called  Constana.  Until today, it destinations were not cited. As we can see below, however, it flew to a French airfield near the Spanish border today.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 06, 2022, 02:09:44 PM
A few days, maybe a week, before the Russian invasion, I followed a Ukrainian An-24's flight to Nellis AFB on one of the flight tracking apps. I've been watching that specific a/c ever since, it's flying in and out of a Romanian airport called  Constana.  Until today, it destinations were not cited. As we can see below, however, it flew to a French airfield near the Spanish border today.

I wonder what they’re moving around.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 06, 2022, 02:18:27 PM
I wonder what they’re moving around.

Doubt it's wine or cheese.

Pau sounds familiar to me.  Possibly used as a staging point for smuggling arms into Spain during the Spanish Civil War, or as a waypoint for the Underground getting downed aircrew out of occupied France into Spain in WW2.  I'll have to look that up if I have time.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 06, 2022, 07:24:39 PM
A few days, maybe a week, before the Russian invasion, I followed a Ukrainian An-24's flight to Nellis AFB on one of the flight tracking apps. I've been watching that specific a/c ever since, it's flying in and out of a Romanian airport called  Constana.  Until today, it destinations were not cited. As we can see below, however, it flew to a French airfield near the Spanish border today.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html

I think we (and obviously the Russians) know where that secret Eastern European airfield is. 
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on March 06, 2022, 07:36:07 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html

I think we (and obviously the Russians) know where that secret Eastern European airfield is.
Yep.  I wonder when the Russians will concentrate on knocking out any vehicle suspected of transporting that equipment in the Ukraine.  I wonder if the dominoes will start to fall with a Russian strike on that “secret” airfield.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: WhiteCrow on March 07, 2022, 11:46:30 AM
Ukraine needs an international volunteer "Flying Tigers" air force, now!!
Brave retired and active fighter pilots could resign from their country's air force and join Ukraine's volunteer Flying Tigers Air Force. Western countries could donate/sell their planes, support arms and equipment to Ukraine's Flying Tigers all volunteer air force.  Of course  would also need to set up a secure airport inside Ukraine.

All donated/purchased planes,  equipment and uniforms would have the  insignia of the  "Flying  Tigers" all volunteer air force.

Please pass this idea along

"Only Takes.. One .. White Crow"
Richard Hoagland

 
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 07, 2022, 01:29:00 PM
Cool footage of the AN-22. Biggest turbo prop in the world.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 08, 2022, 07:25:18 PM
Great channel on YouTube. Some of their shots are so locked in it doesn’t even look real.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 12, 2022, 09:17:08 AM
It’s not your fathers moped. Kawasaki C-2.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on March 12, 2022, 01:47:14 PM
I was trout fishing on a mountain stream when two F-15’s came tearing up the river valley just above the treetops.  Quite an impressive sound.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 12, 2022, 01:58:45 PM
I was trout fishing on a mountain stream when two F-15’s came tearing up the river valley just above the treetops.  Quite an impressive sound.

I used to bass fish on a lake called Toledo Bend. Two different trips I had multiple A-10s come buzzing over the treetops and pivot around my boat and others as if they had found “targets of opportunity”. As jets go, they didn’t have the roar of an F-15 but it can be a bit unsettling when you’re looking down the barrel of a gattling gun. You really couldn’t hear them approaching from behind if the shoreline was covered in southern pines.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 14, 2022, 06:08:15 PM
Well now we know what all those triangles Art saw were.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on March 17, 2022, 01:35:08 PM
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The P-8A Poseidon was making some more circles yesterday.  I was out walking without my phone and I counted five passes before I made it back home in time to snap one picture before it started to head back to base.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 17, 2022, 03:07:26 PM
Well now we know what all those triangles Art saw were.



🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 18, 2022, 12:22:03 PM
Well this sucks.

GPS jamming and spoofing is mucking with domestic flights quite away from the Ukraine.

https://www.spacedaily.com/afp/220318133436.0o7anps9.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 18, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
Well this sucks.

GPS jamming and spoofing is mucking with domestic flights quite away from the Ukraine.

https://www.spacedaily.com/afp/220318133436.0o7anps9.html

The Russians have their own unique satellite based navigation system, called something like GLONAS.  Wouldn't it be a shame if their system started getting jammed as well?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 18, 2022, 03:56:21 PM
Might be an Osprey that crashed

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1504946696232574976
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 18, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
Yep. Osprey. They’ve located the wreckage. No word on the crew yet.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/03/us-military-aircraft-crashes-in-norway-with-4-on-board/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 22, 2022, 05:57:41 AM
Looked over on the airline pilots forum for insights on that horrible crash in China. Read through all seven pages and came to the conclusion that their forum is just as dysfunctional as any other. In summary - pilot suicide, software problem, mechanical problem, pterodactyl strike, Trump's fault, Putin's fault, AOC will call for electric planes now and some good old sniping between posters.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/safety/137091-china-eastern-737-crash.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on March 22, 2022, 10:18:23 AM
Looked over on the airline pilots forum for insights on that horrible crash in China. Read through all seven pages and came to the conclusion that their forum is just as dysfunctional as any other. In summary - pilot suicide, software problem, mechanical problem, pterodactyl strike, Trump's fault, Putin's fault, AOC will call for electric planes now and some good old sniping between posters.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/safety/137091-china-eastern-737-crash.html
I heard a news reporter last night remarking “so far no survivors have been found.”  Yeah, a straight-in nose dive at around 30,000 ft per minute will tend to do that.  ::)

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 23, 2022, 05:46:06 AM
F-22 down
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: sean92008 on March 23, 2022, 09:49:06 AM
I heard a news reporter last night remarking “so far no survivors have been found.”  Yeah, a straight-in nose dive at around 30,000 ft per minute will tend to do that.  ::)

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Humm...
6-7 years old.

Uighur pilot?
EMP beam?
Fin break off? (Possibly, per Steve Moss, air accident investigator in the UK)
Boeing's fault?

China will blame the US somehow.
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 23, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
Never knew they used a bear to test an ejection seat.

https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/21/b-58-ejects-yogi-bear

Hey BooBoooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 24, 2022, 05:43:25 AM
Never knew they used a bear to test an ejection seat.

https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/21/b-58-ejects-yogi-bear

Hey BooBoooooooooooooooooooooooo

My first boss at WPAFB was part of test team for the bear ejection. 

The Chinese use dogs to sled test their ejection seats.  I've seen video of a dog coming down under the chute after being ejected and hitting the ground running, then being chased down.  The next scene was the dog being autopsied.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Gd5150 on March 24, 2022, 08:30:02 AM
Never knew they used a bear to test an ejection seat.

https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/21/b-58-ejects-yogi-bear

Hey BooBoooooooooooooooooooooooo

Why can’t we use politicians. Start with the ones who’ve been there the longest.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on March 24, 2022, 11:22:53 AM
Why can’t we use politicians. Start with the ones who’ve been there the longest.
It would be nice to get something useful for the country and non-self-serving out of them for a change.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 30, 2022, 07:52:12 PM
Lost another Osprey
https://breaking911.com/breaking-u-s-coast-guard-responding-to-plane-crash-off-virginia/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 30, 2022, 08:50:25 PM
Someone is going to be in the shitter

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-c-130-marthas-vineyard
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on March 31, 2022, 12:19:21 PM
White-booted racket-tailed hummingbirds in flight!

https://twitter.com/BanginTweets_/status/1509603329596342279
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on April 13, 2022, 10:10:00 AM
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/usaf-to-start-operating-single-seat-amphibious-aircraft-with-an-open-cockpit-186056.html

From the article:

"The Army is interested in adding a capability that had not been available before...."

Not quite true as a few different "personal rotor craft" were developed for the Army in the mid/late 1950s. Of course these were not electrically powered, but the concept was the same.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on May 13, 2022, 03:24:19 AM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on May 17, 2022, 02:06:47 PM
Flight data from China Eastern jet points to intentional nosedive -WSJ

https://share.smartnews.com/NJYtx

It was an obvious conclusion this was not a malfunction or pilot error considering neither Boeing or any air safety regulatory agency issued air safety bulletins/directives.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 18, 2022, 09:05:45 PM
Crazy mother here. Cranked up to 17,500 feet.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 02, 2022, 02:07:27 PM


Flypast for the Queen's Jubilee.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 10, 2022, 12:20:21 PM
https://us.bolnews.com/world/2022/06/mystery-plane-puts-east-europe-air-forces-on-alert/

Similar profile to drug running aircraft in this part of the world.  Since this occured in Eastern Europe, something to do with the unpleasantness in Ukraine, perhaps?

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on June 10, 2022, 05:49:38 PM
“Mirror/ chrome” F-22.  Interesting.

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https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58403&p=467948
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 10, 2022, 06:46:38 PM
“Mirror/ chrome” F-22.  Interesting.

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https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58403&p=467948

If I had to guess, I'd say this is an experimental surface designed to spoof infrared sighting and tracking (IRST) systems.  With aircraft becoming so stealthy, tracking an enemy by infrared (vice radar) is becoming more important.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 24, 2022, 12:24:09 PM
This one is entertaining

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on July 04, 2022, 11:39:25 PM
https://video.valleypbs.org/video/byyou-exploration-castle-air-museum/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on July 28, 2022, 11:14:28 AM
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/07/28/hundreds-of-air-force-training-planes-grounded-over-ejection-seat-concerns/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mil-breaking
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on September 04, 2022, 08:04:00 AM
Presented by Pan American Airways System, this pre-war promotional documentary film is titled “Overnight to Hawaii” chronicles a Pan Am Clipper Flight from San Francisco to Honolulu and eventually China. The film highlights the pre-World War II flight paths of Pan Am along the Pacific and offers the viewer a life-like experience of being on board. The film underscores the company’s “Clipper Era” from 1931-1946 characterized by the 28 Clippers carrying different nicknames that symbolized Pan Am and served Asia, the Caribbean, and Latin America. Founded in 1927, Pan Am was the principal and largest international air carrier and unofficial overseas flag carrier of the United States for much of the 20th century.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on September 14, 2022, 11:32:34 AM
This promotional film for Pan Am's "double deck Clipper", the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser, was made in the last 1940s as the airplane entered worldwide service.

The film includes some rare footage from Pan Am's history (including some awkward model shots of early aircraf) beginning at the 8:00 mark. The Consolidated Commodore Flying Boat is seen at 8:30, and the Sikorsky S-42 Brazilian Clipper is seen at 8:50. Check out the shots of the swimsuit-clad men removing the plane's landing gear! The China Clipper Martin M-130 is seen at 9:23 and the Boeing 307 at 9:30. The Boeing Model 307 Stratoliner was the first commercial transport aircraft to enter service with a pressurized cabin. The Boeing 314 is seen at 9:50, and the Douglas DC-4 at 9:58 as well as a Lockheed Constellation or Connie.

The Boeing B-17 "Buck Shot" is seen at the 10:58 mark followed by the B-29 and B-50 aircraft.

The film includes footage of trans-Atlantic routes, and a trip to Brazil and Hawaii by Pan American.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 14, 2022, 03:47:31 PM
This promotional film for Pan Am's "double deck Clipper", the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser, was made in the last 1940s as the airplane entered worldwide service.

The film includes some rare footage from Pan Am's history (including some awkward model shots of early aircraf) beginning at the 8:00 mark. The Consolidated Commodore Flying Boat is seen at 8:30, and the Sikorsky S-42 Brazilian Clipper is seen at 8:50. Check out the shots of the swimsuit-clad men removing the plane's landing gear! The China Clipper Martin M-130 is seen at 9:23 and the Boeing 307 at 9:30. The Boeing Model 307 Stratoliner was the first commercial transport aircraft to enter service with a pressurized cabin. The Boeing 314 is seen at 9:50, and the Douglas DC-4 at 9:58 as well as a Lockheed Constellation or Connie.

The Boeing B-17 "Buck Shot" is seen at the 10:58 mark followed by the B-29 and B-50 aircraft.

The film includes footage of trans-Atlantic routes, and a trip to Brazil and Hawaii by Pan American.

I used to see the USAF tanker version of the 377, the KC-97, frequently as a youngster.  They were based a now defunct SAC based near Columbus, Ohio.  Later models of the KC-97 had a jet under each wing to increase their speed to make it easier to refuel jets. The Stratocruiser wasn't as elegant as the Connie/Super Connie, but its design was a big step forward in aviation when many airlines were making do with surplus WWII transports.

Back 15-20 years ago, one of the Sikorsky biplane flying boats flew over.  I assume it was heading to an airshow somewhere.   Nothing sounds like a big radial engine.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 16, 2022, 09:18:41 PM
Interesting sighting if real.

https://twitter.com/jaiden_floyd/status/1581768100289998848
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on October 17, 2022, 04:03:40 AM
Interesting sighting if real.

https://twitter.com/jaiden_floyd/status/1581768100289998848

If you read further down in the chain of posts, you'll see the guy who posted the photo admits it's photoshopped.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 17, 2022, 04:54:00 AM
If you read further down in the chain of posts, you'll see the guy who posted the photo admits it's photoshopped.

Bahh.  He hadn't yet at the time. Thought maybe NASA had dusted one of theirs off.
Title: CAF B-17 and P-63 Crash at Dallas Executive Airport during Airshow
Post by: ItsOver on November 12, 2022, 03:58:38 PM
The P-63 cuts the B-17 in half during a CAF air show. :o :'(



The B-17 was the Texas Raiders. Note to video narrator, you don’t survive something like that.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 12, 2022, 04:16:05 PM
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https://theaviationist.com/2022/11/13/b-17-and-p-63-kingcobra-collision/

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 12, 2022, 06:27:10 PM
Different angle that provides more context.  The B-17, followed by a B-24, and a B-25 I guess. Not sure what the last bomber in line is. Almost looks like a Hudson but I don't think there are any of those left that can fly.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 12, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
It seems tail end charlie might have been this twin beech thingy:

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 12, 2022, 07:56:47 PM
B-17 darn near took out a Stearman/Jenny or some sort of bi-plane.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 12, 2022, 08:08:38 PM
P-39 Airacobra cockpit - I'd assume very similar to the P-63 King Cobra.  Not a fountain of visibility.


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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: sean92008 on November 12, 2022, 09:34:38 PM
That collision in Dallas looked really bad, as if someone wasn't looking where he was going. Sure looked like he banked straight at it.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 13, 2022, 04:14:50 AM
That collision in Dallas looked really bad, as if someone wasn't looking where he was going. Sure looked like he banked straight at it.

Agreed.  I wonder if the P-63 pilot had a medical issue prior to impact.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 13, 2022, 05:25:06 AM
P-39 Airacobra cockpit - I'd assume very similar to the P-63 King Cobra.  Not a fountain of visibility.


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Yes. Really tragic. Of course, with the loss of life, and then two historic planes, especially the B-17. I’ve walked by the Texas Raiders a number of times at Texas air shows, and seen it fly. It’s even flown over my house. No mas.  :( :'(

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 13, 2022, 06:32:45 AM
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Dear members and supporters of the Commemorative Air Force (CAF),
 
I wanted to share with you the news of a tragic accident that happened earlier today.  On Saturday, Nov 12, at approximately 1:20 p.m. CST, two CAF aircraft were involved in a mid-air collision at Dallas Executive Airport during the CAF’s Wings Over Dallas WWII Airshow. 
 
The aircraft involved were our B-17 Flying Fortress Texas Raiders N7227C and our P-63 Kingcobra N6763, both based out of the Houston area.
 
The B-17 operates with a flight crew of 4-5 individuals, and the P-63 operates with a single crew member. At this time, we are not able to provide the identity or any personal information about the aircrew involved. 
 
The Commemorative Air Force is working closely with local and national authorities who are investigating this accident.  The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) will conduct a thorough investigation into the cause of the accident. Currently, no additional information is available.
 
We will continue to share information with you as we are able. It is always difficult to share news like this, however you are part of our aviation family. It is important that we support one another in times like this.
 
Hank Coates
President/CEO
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 13, 2022, 10:34:57 AM
Here’s some background on the P-63F that was lost. Apparently, one of only two made of that variant.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/corkspotter/45362074605/in/pool-wwiifighters

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 13, 2022, 01:12:20 PM
Pretty wild stuff J-20 out of China. (https://htrs-special.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/China-J-20-Fighter-Jet-Amazing-Maneuvers.mp4)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 13, 2022, 02:17:12 PM
Pretty wild stuff J-20 out of China. (https://htrs-special.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/China-J-20-Fighter-Jet-Amazing-Maneuvers.mp4)
Are you sure those aren’t large-scale R/C birds?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 13, 2022, 02:20:15 PM
Are you sure those aren’t large-scale R/C birds?

Hal Turner confirms the authenticity.  ;)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-s-j-20-stealth-fighter-jet-i-ve-never-seen-american-planes-do-these-things
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 13, 2022, 03:02:15 PM
Hal Turner confirms the authenticity.  ;)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-s-j-20-stealth-fighter-jet-i-ve-never-seen-american-planes-do-these-things
Maybe Hal got fooled. ;) If those are indeed the real deal, it’s definitely amazing. I’m also surprised the ChiCom’s would be doing such a flight demo close to and in front of “the People.” :)

What do you think, Uncle Duke?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 13, 2022, 05:03:11 PM
Maybe Hal got fooled. ;) If those are indeed the real deal, it’s definitely amazing. I’m also surprised the ChiCom’s would be doing such a flight demo close to and in front of “the People.” :)

What do you think, Uncle Duke?

The J-16 is a real fighter, but I don't buy the hovering bit.  Here's an official video from the recent Airshow China showing the J-16 being put through its paces.  If it could hover, I think we'd see them flaunting that capability in what amounts to an advertising video.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 14, 2022, 07:55:26 AM


Listen to the kids. :)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on November 15, 2022, 10:14:07 AM
B-17 darn near took out a Stearman/Jenny or some sort of bi-plane.



This YouTube report from ABC7 has the new angle footage. It's credited to Vicki Garcia. (So, you can examine it in slo-motion on YouTube...)

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 15, 2022, 10:33:04 AM
This YouTube report from ABC7 has the new angle footage. It's credited to Vicki Garcia. (So, you can examine it in slo-motion on YouTube...)


The pilot of the P-63 was a pilot for United and had a substantial number of flight hours. From looking at the videos and the visibility within the P-63 cockpit, I can see where the B-17 could have been in a blind spot for the P-63 pilot. Even still, if the aircraft had been limited to flying at reasonably different altitudes, a collision could have been avoided.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/he-died-doing-what-he-loved-montgomery-county-pilot-is-1-of-6-killed-in-dallas-air-show/ar-AA146SGu

I’ve watched the CAF do the “Tora, Tora, Tora” demonstration a number of times. I’m sure it’s well-choreographed and rehearsed, even though it can appear to be quite chaotic. Just speculating at this point but it looks like these type of demos need to be thoroughly analyzed from the control and altitude separation standpoint. If something can go wrong, it will, unfortunately. The pilot could have had a medical-type incident, too. I’m pretty confident it’ll all come out in the accident investigation.

https://wingsoverdallas.org/aircraft-posts/tora-tora-tora-2/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 15, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
The pilot of the P-63 was a pilot for United and had a substantial number of flight hours. From looking at the videos and the visibility within the P-63 cockpit, I can see where the B-17 could have been in a blind spot for the P-63 pilot. Even still, if the aircraft had been limited to flying at reasonably different altitudes, a collision could have been avoided.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/he-died-doing-what-he-loved-montgomery-county-pilot-is-1-of-6-killed-in-dallas-air-show/ar-AA146SGu

I’ve watched the CAF do the “Tora, Tora, Tora” demonstration a number of times. I’m sure it’s well-choreographed and rehearsed, even though it can appear to be quite chaotic. Just speculating at this point but it looks like these type of demos need to be thoroughly analyzed from the control and altitude separation standpoint. If something can go wrong, it will, unfortunately. The pilot could have had a medical-type incident, too. I’m pretty confident it’ll all come out in the accident investigation.

https://wingsoverdallas.org/aircraft-posts/tora-tora-tora-2/

I've watched that midair at least 20 times from 4 different angles. I'm convinced the P-63 pilot purposely collided with the bomber.  And you have more confidence in the NTSB than I do.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 15, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
I've watched that midair at least 20 times from 4 different angles. I'm convinced the P-63 pilot purposely collided with the bomber.  And you have more confidence in the NTSB than I do.

A Japanese on 4chan had trolled with: "Glad to see that America has finally adopted superior Japanese culture". 
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: ItsOver on November 15, 2022, 11:05:49 AM
I've watched that midair at least 20 times from 4 different angles. I'm convinced the P-63 pilot purposely collided with the bomber.  And you have more confidence in the NTSB than I do.
I’m surprised anyone would say that, at this point, about the P-63 pilot. Maybe something will come out to change things but that’s a pretty strong accusation to make without quite a bit of evidence.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 19, 2022, 04:31:39 AM
Oof

https://twitter.com/72powpow/status/1593875827581915138
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on November 19, 2022, 09:44:21 AM
Oof

https://twitter.com/72powpow/status/1593875827581915138

Fireman have a premonition?