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Title: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on July 05, 2018, 01:34:57 PM
Here is a thread for the people who enjoys anything that flies.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 06, 2018, 07:02:41 AM
Live from the Canary Islands.  People watching and chatting about - nothing really.   :D


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 08, 2018, 04:24:16 AM
Built for comfort - the Bristol Brabazon airliner

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Mr Apnea on July 09, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
Yahoo!!!  No more Dash 8.


(Bloomberg) — A chapter of U.S. air travel came to a quiet end on July 4 when the final turboprop flight at American Airlines Group Inc. landed on Maryland’s Eastern Shore at dusk.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 19, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
49 years on Saturday. Wow.

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https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599 (https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599)
Title: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:18:30 PM
Title: Re: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:24:32 PM


People in youtube chat talking about flat earth and that this is fake.  ;) :-[
Title: Re: Live now: Falcon9 SpaceX Launch
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:27:41 PM
People in youtube chat talking about flat earth and that this is fake.  ;) :-[

That shit is soooooo played out.................
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
Now that is a pretty cool camera angle
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:42:02 PM
Now that is a pretty cool camera angle

Weird, I can't figure out what I am looking at. Is that some kind of giant demonic alien throwing a glowing orb or one trying to grab the craft lest it pierces the dome over the flat earth and thus lets the "truth" be known to humanity about the arcologies and crystalline domes on other planets and moons?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:43:43 PM
Weird, I can't figure out what I am looking at. Is that some kind of giant demonic alien throwing a glowing orb or one trying to grab the craft lest it pierces the dome over the flat earth and thus lets the "truth" be known to humanity about the arcologies and crystalline domes on other planets and moons?

I just went into theater mode and it clipped off that chat    ;D
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
Solar Arrays are deployed.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 07:49:38 PM
I just went into theater mode and it clipped off that chat    ;D

I don't know what you did but I demand an RCH imaging panel investigation in which I can listen to the audio only because that initial pic looked weird and I think might just, with some imaging panelist investigations, reformatting, light and balance adjustment, rescanning, etc offer up the proof we are looking for!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 20, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
I don't know what you did but I demand an RCH imaging panel investigation in which I can listen to the audio only because that initial pic looked weird and I think might just, with some imaging panelist investigations, reformatting, light and balance adjustment, rescanning, etc offer up the proof we are looking for!

Or reach out to the Mad Martian to get the real deal
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on July 20, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
Or reach out to the Mad Martian to get the real deal

Indeed, second opinions are a good idea when such an important issue!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 21, 2018, 07:13:33 PM
http://texashillcountry.com/plane-crashes-flames-hill-country/ (http://texashillcountry.com/plane-crashes-flames-hill-country/)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on July 22, 2018, 03:32:54 AM
I saw this one day while traveling.  Not an aircraft you see every day.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 22, 2018, 04:53:59 AM
I saw this one day while traveling.  Not an aircraft you see every day.

That's pretty awesome.  Had to look that one up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga-Dnepr_Airlines
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: whoozit on July 22, 2018, 04:58:09 AM
That's pretty awesome.  Had to look that one up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga-Dnepr_Airlines
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 22, 2018, 05:18:57 AM
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.

Well the NC National Guard recently deployed to Afghanistan, so perhaps Ivan was moving their equipment for them.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 22, 2018, 01:02:54 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: yorkshire pud on July 22, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
Sqn Ldr Geoffrey 'Boy' Wellum DFC, the youngest RAF pilot to fight in the BoB has died aged 96.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 23, 2018, 09:49:08 PM
A Grumman Avenger gunner is buried at sea in his aircraft


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 27, 2018, 05:58:10 AM
Live from Oshkosh

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Desmond on August 03, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
I believe it was in Charlotte.  I looked out the window and said I need to get a pic of that.

Definitely CLT.   I spend a lot of time there.  :)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 12, 2018, 06:59:33 AM
The 1943 St. Louis Glider Accident

Poor quality control takes out a good hunk of the St Louis city leadership when a combat glider loses it's wing.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on August 15, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
https://theaviationist.com/2018/08/13/exclusive-check-out-these-incredible-photos-taken-last-week-of-the-massive-stratolaunch-space-plane/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on August 18, 2018, 04:36:17 PM
Fuck me.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 18, 2018, 04:42:48 PM
Fuck me.


Barthur is a man of many talents.   
Title: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 24, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
@Rikki Gins  posted a picture of a postcard of a Vickers Viscount the other day.   

The Wikipedia page for the Viscount indicated that the last one left service in 2009 with GTRA Airways in the Congo.  So I thought I'd poke around and see what I could find on
Vickers Viscount 9Q-COD.  It was delivered to British European Airways on July 25th, 1957 and stayed in service with that airline until 1973 when a merger moved it to British Airways.
British Airways would keep it in service until January 16, 1981 where it would then bounce around between British Air Ferries, Oasis Oil, Esso Standard Oil, Polar Airways, Euroair Transport, Airwing 2000
and British World Airlines until the end of the millennium. 

From there it would head to Africa with stops at airlines in Togo, South Africa, the Ivory Coast and Benin  before finally being acquired by GTRA Airways in the Democratic Republic of Congo on June 15th, 2004.  It would stay in service in up until 2009.  It was then apparently offered up for sale for $250,000.  Without any takers the aircraft was left out in the elements in Kinshasa.
With 50,631 total landings behind it there would be no more.

In 2012, an enthusiast from viscountvickers.net (there's a dot net for *everything*) traveled to the Congo to look at the possibility of saving the aircraft.  By then it was in bad shape and it
was determined to be not worth the effort and expense to save it.   In 2015 the aircraft disappeared off Google Earth and was apparently scrapped.

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Here is the complete history of this plane -> http://www.vickersviscount.net/Index/VickersViscount170History.aspx







Title: Re: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Kingfish on September 24, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
@Rikki Gins  posted a picture of a postcard of a Vickers Viscount the other day.   

The Wikipedia page for the Viscount indicated that the last one left service in 2009 with GTRA Airways in the Congo.  So I thought I'd poke around and see what I could find on
Vickers Viscount 9Q-COD.  It was delivered to British European Airways on July 25th, 1957 and stayed in service with that airline until 1973 when a merger moved it to British Airways.
British Airways would keep it in service until January 16, 1981 where it would then bounce around between British Air Ferries, Oasis Oil, Esso Standard Oil, Polar Airways, Euroair Transport, Airwing 2000
and British World Airlines until the end of the millennium. 

From there it would head to Africa with stops at airlines in Togo, South Africa, the Ivory Coast and Benin  before finally being acquired by GTRA Airways in the Democratic Republic of Congo on June 15th, 2004.  It would stay in service in up until 2009.  It was then apparently offered up for sale for $250,000.  Without any takers the aircraft was left out in the elements in Kinshasa.
With 50,631 total landings behind it there would be no more.

In 2012, an enthusiast from viscountvickers.net (there's a dot net for *everything*) traveled to the Congo to look at the possibility of saving the aircraft.  By then it was in bad shape and it
was determined to be not worth the effort and expense to save it.   In 2015 the aircraft disappeared off Google Earth and was apparently scrapped.

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Here is the complete history of this plane -> http://www.vickersviscount.net/Index/VickersViscount170History.aspx

http://www.rhodesian.com.au/memoriam%20viscounts.php
Title: Re: The last Vickers Viscount
Post by: Rikki Gins on September 24, 2018, 11:16:23 PM
http://www.rhodesian.com.au/memoriam%20viscounts.php

Wow!  That had to have sucked big time.  You survive a horrendous plane crash only to get gunned down by a bunch of g-d d----d terrorists.  Horrible!
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 25, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
Very sobering documentary on the B-26.  The second mission against the Germans resulted in the loss of the entire flight of aircraft.  None returned.
Several actual B-26 personnel appear in this film.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on September 28, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
Lost an F-35B today. Hope the pilot is ok.

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/09/28/an-f-35b-has-crashed-near-marine-corps-air-station-beaufort/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 01, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
http://www.historicracer.com/aviation/accidental-fighter-pilot/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: 2Lord2Grantham on October 01, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
The 1943 St. Louis Glider Accident

The History Guy is a cool channel, he talks a lot about lesser known WWII incidents. I had no idea the Japanese shelled the continental US from a submarine during the first few months of the war.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on October 01, 2018, 02:48:44 PM
The History Guy is a cool channel, he talks a lot about lesser known WWII incidents. I had no idea the Japanese shelled the continental US from a submarine during the first few months of the war.

And bombed it with a submarine launched seaplane as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 02, 2018, 08:43:38 PM
Just a simulation but a horrifying one..........................  Russian pilot lets his boy have a go at the controls.


Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 08, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
Again a simulation but what an awful, crazy thing to cause a crash.  Plane was leaving Shanghai and cleared for 1,500 meters altitude which they were about at.
First Officer gets confused and thinks they should be at 1,500 feet, so the pilot puts the plane (loaded with freight)  in a 35 degree dive and splatters it.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kingfish on October 09, 2018, 04:15:21 PM
Again a simulation but what an awful, crazy thing to cause a crash.  Plane was leaving Shanghai and cleared for 1,500 meters altitude which they were about at.
First Officer gets confused and thinks they should be at 1,500 feet, so the pilot puts the plane (loaded with freight)  in a 35 degree dive and splatters it.



Those pesky units.




Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 09, 2018, 04:38:06 PM
Those pesky units.






NASA and Titan performed IV&V on the spacecraft flight software to ensure it would work properly. They would not pay us to look at the ground Software. That is how most missions are handled. I am not sure if it is still the same philosophy but the only ground software we had any involvement in was the redesign of the shuttle launch software at KSC and then from the beginning we were involved in the requirements for the ground and flight software for JWST.

Mission Control Software at JSC was never subject to IV&V.

Dan Golden had a saying when he was pushing all organizations to develop performance metrics. “If you can’t measure it you can’t manage it.” 

I added a corollary for when I would teach my widely accepted class on metrics. . “If you are going to measure it, make sure everyone is using the same unit of measurement.”

p.s. If the ground controllers would have had the discipline to investigate why the course corrections kept being much more than expected, or if they had simulated the next leg with the new course updates they woukd have realized the problem with months to spare. They made the cardinal error by blindly trusting their own software and made the assumption something was wrong with the spacecraft that kept requiring larger and larger course corrections.
Title: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
Will try and learn more about what is going on

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1050492487108894722
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Aircraft is still aloft:  https://www.flightradar24.com/AAL263/1e2d26f3

Seems like a whole lot of bad luck.  Passenger had a cardiac arrest and attempted emergency landing at Edmonton was scrubbed
due to mechanical issues.   Seems like they are dumping fuel and going to Calgary
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
Looks like they are going for it.   Good luck AAL263
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
Almost there
Title: Re: American Airlines flight AA263 is in trouble
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 11, 2018, 03:59:25 PM
Looks like they are down and help in the form of emergency vehicles is on the way

Hopefully the medical situation turns out okay.................
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Evil Twin Of Zen on October 13, 2018, 01:46:06 AM
USS Macon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29

attached images are of Hanger One from 1977 at NAS Moffett Field.
also an image of my first big toy in Adak, Alaska.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 02:02:13 AM
USS Macon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29

attached images are of Hanger One from 1977 at NAS Moffett Field.
also an image of my first big toy in Adak, Alaska.

Most of the astronaut simulator training was accomplished at JSC using two fixed base and one motion based simulators. Moffet Field (Ames) has a very unique simulator called the Vertical Motion Simulator (VMS). It provided a real “seat of the pants” feel for simulated Shuttle landings, especially when simulating blown tires and crosswind landings. It didn’t have a high fidelity cockpit. And it didn’t have actual Shuttle seats.

I flew the simulator with Dick Covey after Dick had retired as an astronaut. It was quite an experience.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/technology-onepagers/vms.html

The hangar is still there. Today I believe Google leases it from NASA.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Evil Twin Of Zen on October 13, 2018, 02:35:34 AM
Most of the astronaut simulator training was accomplished at JSC using two fixed base and one motion based simulators. Moffet Field (Ames) has a very unique simulator called the Vertical Motion Simulator (VMS). It provided a real “seat of the pants” feel for simulated Shuttle landings, especially when simulating blown tires and crosswind landings. It didn’t have a high fidelity cockpit. And it didn’t have actual Shuttle seats.

I flew the simulator with Dick Covey after Dick had retired as an astronaut. It was quite an experience.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/technology-onepagers/vms.html

The hangar is still there. Today I believe Google leases it from NASA.

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last i had heard was that it had to be torn down, but was being restored. i mainly recall it being really big and full of bats. you could feel the "pressure" of the bats screeching on your ear drums. the clam-shell doors were still operational when i was stationed there and would be opened during the various airshows. i flew a Beechcraft  Bonanza thru it a few times.... in a micorsoft flight sim.  8)
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on October 13, 2018, 04:19:06 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 07:48:41 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on October 13, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html

There's not even 200 of them.  Makes one wonder why they wouldn't have moved them well before the storm.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on October 13, 2018, 08:23:27 PM
There's not even 200 of them.  Makes one wonder why they wouldn't have moved them well before the storm.

They flew out as many as they could. I saw one report that says there may have been 22 that weren’t flight worthy. I saw some aerial footage that clearly showed some in hangars that had collapsed. Looked like C-130s and maybe P-3s in the hangars as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on October 14, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Loads of aircraft look to be heavily damaged at Tyndall AFB including F-22s.

Buy Lockheed stock.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tyndall-air-force-sustains-catastrophic-damage-141950506.html

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-13/hurricane-cost-may-skyrocket-billions-stealth-fighter-jets-unaccounted-tyndall-afb

Hey, let's hope it was the non-functioning "not always flight-worthy"  F-22s were the ones lost?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: albrecht on January 16, 2019, 06:34:22 PM
Dem see black bird inside Singapore Airlines plane wey nobody know wia e come from

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https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-46862105

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Whistler on January 24, 2019, 10:11:32 PM
10 worst aircraft of all time.

http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/ (http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/)

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on January 24, 2019, 10:25:15 PM
10 worst aircraft of all time.

http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/ (http://www.defensionem.com/snafu-10-worst-aircraft/)

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I will admit I clicked on the link just to make sure they included the F-104.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on January 29, 2019, 08:47:58 PM
Wal-mart has a FBO (fix base operator) and here is their Web Site.
http://www.beaverlakeaviation.com/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on February 23, 2019, 06:01:19 PM
767 nosedived into the water not far from me. Amazon Prime cargo plane.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-remains-found-where-texas-cargo-plane-carrying-at-least-3-crashed-survivors-unlikely-officials-say
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 23, 2019, 06:15:30 PM
767 nosedived into the water not far from me. Amazon Prime cargo plane.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-remains-found-where-texas-cargo-plane-carrying-at-least-3-crashed-survivors-unlikely-officials-say

I had not heard about this.  Terrible news..............
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on February 28, 2019, 01:09:48 AM
Amazing sight lines for takeoffs and landings.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on March 01, 2019, 09:49:30 AM
It's with a 4K video like this that I appreciate fully a 4K TV...

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 01, 2019, 02:37:01 PM
How planes are born.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: 26 horses on March 01, 2019, 02:52:22 PM
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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on March 13, 2019, 01:27:13 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on March 22, 2019, 01:59:16 AM
Ouch!

https://i.imgur.com/56IOZbB.mp4
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 17, 2021, 04:00:24 PM
Time to dust this baby off now that @Uncle Duke is here
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 17, 2021, 04:08:18 PM
US Air Force Forgot How To Make Parts Of Its Own B2 Stealth Bomber And Now Wants To Reverse Engineer It
https://greatgameindia.com/air-force-reverse-engineer-b2-bomber/

What's the scoop here? The little old man that designed the heat exchanger on the B-2 passed and took all the secrets with him?
The specs got lost in a move?  The IBM PS/2 Model 57 SLC the files were on died and there were no backups?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 17, 2021, 06:04:26 PM
US Air Force Forgot How To Make Parts Of Its Own B2 Stealth Bomber And Now Wants To Reverse Engineer It
https://greatgameindia.com/air-force-reverse-engineer-b2-bomber/

What's the scoop here? The little old man that designed the heat exchanger on the B-2 passed and took all the secrets with him?
The specs got lost in a move?  The IBM PS/2 Model 57 SLC the files were on died and there were no backups?

The B-2 was designed on an early CAD/CAM system, certainly the first aircraft program I worked on where such a system was used.  Most of that early work was done at a now defunct Northrop facility in Pico Rivera, CA, then everything was moved to Plant 42 in Palmdale.   I know the plan was to destroy the jigs and tooling at the end of production, but I don't know if subsystems like heat exchangers were designed/built by Northrop or one of their subcontractors.  It's doubtful they were classified in and of themselves, but their end item usage and interfaces with the a/c probably were.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 17, 2021, 08:52:09 PM
Good to see you, Duke.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 23, 2021, 09:50:17 AM
https://theaviationist.com/2021/03/23/ejection-seats-activation-during-preflight-operations-on-russian-tu-22m3-bomber-kills-three-crew-members/

Poor guys never had a chance.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 23, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
https://theaviationist.com/2021/03/23/ejection-seats-activation-during-preflight-operations-on-russian-tu-22m3-bomber-kills-three-crew-members/

Poor guys never had a chance.

So the AC commander/instructor triggered the ejection during preflight and was the only survivor.  Not a good day for Russian military aviation on many levels.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on March 23, 2021, 01:50:28 PM
So the AC commander/instructor triggered the ejection during preflight and was the only survivor.  Not a good day for Russian military aviation on many levels.

An educated guess is the guy got one of the belts of his restraint system tangled in the seat initiation handle and tried to pull it loose.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Kidnostad on March 23, 2021, 02:57:37 PM
An educated guess is the guy got one of the belts of his restraint system tangled in the seat initiation handle and tried to pull it loose.

Tragic. One would think there would be a switch housing that’s cover had to be raised manually to access the switch.  I believe that’s standard in Navy A/C as per NATOPS. I suppose if he was wrestling with his restraint system and exerted upward pressure to open the box and caught the toggle just right he could defeat that safeguard.

I’m basing the above on knowledge I picked up from sitting on a court martial board.  The same is true of fuel dump switches.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 27, 2021, 08:18:16 AM
Nice little video here on the Martin Mars. Two of them are still being using to fight forest fires 70 years after being built.  Was just reading how they are having to limit the flight hours of the F-35 because they break so much.

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on April 03, 2021, 01:44:57 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40003/the-worlds-most-secretive-737-just-showed-its-bizarre-self-over-the-mojave-desert
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on April 03, 2021, 06:23:54 PM
The Tragic Downfall Of Air Alaska Flight 261 | Mayday S1 EP5 | Wonder

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on April 17, 2021, 11:40:46 PM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on April 18, 2021, 12:27:41 AM

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on April 18, 2021, 06:37:53 AM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/

Meh. It's been done already.

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Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on April 18, 2021, 10:29:43 AM
Avenger ditches into the water just off the beach at an air show in Florida

https://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/2021/04/17/video-wwii-era-plane-makes-emergency-landing-water/7270179002/

There are a surprising number of TBFs/TBMs still around these days, most of them were aerial fire bombers used or hired by the Forest Service.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on May 13, 2021, 09:08:41 AM
https://samchui.com/2021/05/13/mid-air-collision-on-key-lime-air-metroliner-and-sr-22/#.YJ1JvzMpA0N
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 13, 2021, 09:46:02 AM
https://samchui.com/2021/05/13/mid-air-collision-on-key-lime-air-metroliner-and-sr-22/#.YJ1JvzMpA0N

Yikes. Listened to the ATC recording. Mister Key Lime is the chillest dude on the block.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on May 18, 2021, 10:29:19 PM
Oops

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/05/18/2-us-military-pilots-eject-qatari-f-15-illinois-airport.html
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 24, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
Bird down at Nellis:
https://twitter.com/KE6ZGP/status/1396940119832104960
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on May 24, 2021, 05:29:55 PM
Bird down at Nellis:
https://twitter.com/KE6ZGP/status/1396940119832104960

Another controlled burn like your PAVE PAWS announcement?

Draken Mirage fighter. Must have been an aggressor squadron ac. Got confused for a second. Draken is a Swedish fighter but the company that operates the adversary training aircraft is named Draken as well.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on May 27, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
Fun video of a guy in New Guinea

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Up All Night on June 05, 2021, 01:18:45 AM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: damon on June 12, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
http://goldenageflightmuseum.org/
https://www.castleairmuseum.org/
https://aerospaceca.org
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 15, 2021, 08:40:57 PM
Hawaii-Based F-22s Scrambled On FAA's Request But Nobody Will Say Why

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Apair of F-22 Raptors were launched on an alert scramble out of Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam on Sunday at around 4:00 PM local time. A third F-22 joined the mission about an hour after pair's departure. A KC-135 was also launched to support the fighters. Hawaii News Now reports that the scramble, described as an "irregular patrol," was initiated at the request of the Federal Aviation Administration, which reported an 'incident,' although nobody is providing any clear information in regards to what that catalyst for the prolonged scramble mission was.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41089/hawaii-based-f-22s-scrambled-on-faas-request-but-nobody-will-say-why
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 15, 2021, 08:49:28 PM
Oldie but a goodie

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 23, 2021, 09:13:42 AM
Haven't watched yet but Greg is usually pretty good and well.  The P-38 is pretty special........

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 24, 2021, 06:02:11 AM
The Most Replayed Carrier Crash In History Happened 70 Years Ago Today

https://share.smartnews.com/z5pM9

Watch carefully and you can see the pilot's helmet rolling down the flight deck.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on June 24, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
Scratch one Herky Bird

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1408089531648118786
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on June 24, 2021, 11:30:29 AM
Scratch one Herky Bird

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1408089531648118786

Whatever they used took the port wing off at the wing root. Doubtful a MANPAD like an SA-7/SA-16 would do that, nor would small arms or light AAA.  Wonder if those guys have big boy SAMs?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Rikki Gins on June 24, 2021, 12:36:00 PM
The Most Replayed Carrier Crash In History Happened 70 Years Ago Today

https://share.smartnews.com/z5pM9

Watch carefully and you can see the pilot's helmet rolling down the flight deck.

That was great, Duke!  I loved the Midway clip where Heston's prop-driven plane magically turns into a jet after hitting the carrier.
Title: 737 down off of Oahu
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 02, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1410965691931496453
Title: Re: 737 down off of Oahu
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 02, 2021, 07:30:08 PM
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1410965691931496453

Play by Play of this incident.


Coastguardsmen discuss the rescue - seems like the down fliers were in a bad way when they fished them out. 

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: GravitySucks on July 16, 2021, 07:35:08 PM
3 of the Presidential helicopters flew over me today in Rockville.  I was walking back from a grocery store and had my hands full so I didn’t get a chance to take a picture.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 16, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
3 of the Presidential helicopters flew over me today in Rockville.  I was walking back from a grocery store and had my hands full so I didn’t get a chance to take a picture.

They are rather impressive.   
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 16, 2021, 07:45:47 PM
"My name is Ray. Fly me"

https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1415808341872414724
Title: Stuka time!
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 10, 2021, 03:26:22 PM
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on August 17, 2021, 12:43:35 PM


Crash of a Russian military transport prototype earlier today.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 28, 2021, 07:29:09 AM
Some fine 4FU action

Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 16, 2021, 11:12:32 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.   
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 16, 2021, 01:18:50 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.

Perfect for long range SAR into the depths of the Pacific and Indian oceans where choppers do not have the range. Plus dropping guys and equipment off on little atolls.

There is gonna be another war Duke.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 24, 2021, 06:51:47 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 24, 2021, 07:59:45 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587
Does the FBI know what this is?
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 25, 2021, 09:47:12 AM
Does the FBI know what this is?
What is going on in this world @Walks_At_Night  :o

https://twitter.com/MoNDefense/status/1441764823256080385
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Walks_At_Night on September 25, 2021, 11:23:50 AM
What is going on in this world @Walks_At_Night  :o

https://twitter.com/MoNDefense/status/1441764823256080385

Analyzing the ROC's response I guess @FISH   Seeing what they can learn and maybe even trigger an incident.  They can't be too worried about the ROC's submarines. They only have four and two of those are former US Navy boats built during World War Two. Nothing wrong with diesel-electric boats  (https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/june/theres-case-diesels) but at almost 80 years old I am sure the crews worry aout ever surfacing again once they pop under.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: FISH on September 26, 2021, 08:23:21 AM
Analyzing the ROC's response I guess @FISH   Seeing what they can learn and maybe even trigger an incident.  They can't be too worried about the ROC's submarines. They only have four and two of those are former US Navy boats built during World War Two. Nothing wrong with diesel-electric boats  (https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/june/theres-case-diesels) but at almost 80 years old I am sure the crews worry aout ever surfacing again once they pop under.
A good read.
Meanwhile the People’s Republic of China is building the world’s largest submarine factory, a facility to build four subs at a time.6 Russia has built 13 submarines in the past decade.
 "I worry" about the future. The China Syndrome in 2021.  :'(
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 26, 2021, 09:50:19 AM
Model for testing I'd guess.

https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1440806852560707587

I would bet that's not a real a/c, or even a model representing a real or developmental a/c.  I think it's calibration shape used for radar cross section testing, or "pole cat" as the RCS guys call them.  If this was an actual classified a/c, there's no way it would have been that accessible.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: juan on September 26, 2021, 10:01:19 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42395/it-looks-like-a-c-130-seaplane-is-finally-happening

I'll believe it when I see it.  Hard to believe something like this could be approved in government controlled entirely by the Democrats.
Some dim outfit makes the floats.
Title: Re: Aviation Thread
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 26, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Some dim outfit makes the floats.

I wondered about that as well.  Going back almost a hundred years, floats for US military floatplanes were made by a company called EDO. They were based in NY, near various east coast aircraft manufacturers (Grumman, Martin, Vought, Curtis, etc.) that built seaplanes.  They continued making floats after the military got out of the seaplane business, but eventually got swallowed up in the aerospace industry mergers post Cold War.  When I first saw that article  a few weeks ago, I tried to find out if, under new ownership, they were still in the float business.  I had no luck.

There are a handful of float manufacturers in the US, but they are primarily involved in light/civil aviation.  Lockheed, as a company, has no experience in the design, manufacture, and test of floats, so I would guess they would try to form at least an associate with some company with that experience.