As far as MV birthing Ellgab, it's more like MV suddenly abandoned his forum child Bellgab, left it for dead, and then Bart Ell rescued it and now it is flourishing. The parent unexpectedly returns thinking everyone will high-five it and to pick up as if nothing has happened. It just doesn't work like that.
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll
always be the case ... those are the
cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.