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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3900 on: June 11, 2021, 03:57:16 PM »
Fortunately, a local station replays the previous night’s train wreck before that night’s Snorge-fest.

I haven't listened in ages. I'm not sure that "fortunately" applies in your case.  ;)

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3901 on: June 11, 2021, 04:06:52 PM »
I haven't listened in ages. I'm not sure that "fortunately" applies in your case.  ;)
Heh, only in the sense that Snorge makes a great sleep aid.  Instead of white noise, Snorge noise.
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3902 on: June 11, 2021, 04:55:12 PM »
I have used my brainwave app binaural beats successfully to stay alert doing mundane computer tasks reviewing thousands of vulnerabilities and recommended responses where attention to detail was mandatory and the review/editing process would take several full days and under pretty extreme time pressure. When I started I couldn’t do it for more than about 20 minutes straight without taking a break. Listening to classical music, especially Bach and Vivaldi helped somewhat. When I started using the app I was able to go 4 hours straight with no errors. Probably could have gone longer but always scheduled a lunch break to decompress.

Having to wear headphones or earbuds can make it a bit cumbersome for sleeping so I don’t use it much now that I am retired because my sleep schedule doesn’t really matter much. But if the sleep deficit builds up over time, I will use them with a lavender inhaler to catch some good zzz’s.

Placebo effect may explain some people’s success with them, but having used them for over 12 years in one form or another I am sold on them.

Back in the early 90’s when I was involved with astronaut training I proposed using eeg type monitoring integrated into the VR headsets. I felt you could slow down the training session if the trainee wasn’t alert. At the time NASA thought it was a good idea but seemed “too hard”.  I still have my suspicions that someone in those meetings went on to start NeuroSky.

Once I got familiar with binaural beats, and with the technology advances I formalized my ideas to not only do the monitoring during training but also during EVAs. During EVAs the astronauts wear a skull cap and it would have been very easy to integrate eeg sensors like NeuroSky uses. I submitted several unsolicited proposals with full backing from the aerospace company I was working for at the time. They gave me some seed funding and I built a basic prototype using the NeuroSky sensors and the gnaural open source programs. The idea was to use the binaural beats for several scenarios. Guide the astronauts back to an alert, attentive state, especially during training while on their way to MARS. That type of training needs to be accomplished while in route in order to provide a “just-in-time” training session for landing procedures. Another would be to help alter their circadian rhythm in order to have multiple shift coverage during long duration missions.

My proposals were all well received by the Engineering Directorate at JSC and they encouraged me to keep lobbying for funding. The astronaut office would never buy in. Monitoring vital signs like O2, heart rate and blood pressure seem to be fine, but sensing what happens in an astronaut’s head turned out to be a show stopper. I still believe my ideas had merit and could have been expanded to include pilots of regular and military aircraft.

Elon Musk has taken it a step further. No binaural beats for that dude. Just embed a chip.

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Well heck, an android version would be nice.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3903 on: June 11, 2021, 05:24:29 PM »
I had an iPod but it went kaput.  My phone is Android.  I plan on getting another iPod very soon so I will keep this in mind.  Thank you sir. :)  @GravitySucks

@ShayP @anniem  there are android apps that basically do the same thing but I don’t have an android.

Number 7 in this list might be a good place to start.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-android-apps-tune-brain-binaural-beats/
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3904 on: June 11, 2021, 05:45:42 PM »
there are android apps that basically do the same thing

That thing being nothing!
Plug headphones into a potato and it would do the same thing.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3905 on: June 11, 2021, 06:23:22 PM »
That thing being nothing!
Plug headphones into a potato and it would do the same thing.
Leave the potatoes alone!
The potatoes are innocent. :'(

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3906 on: June 11, 2021, 06:24:08 PM »
@ShayP @anniem  there are android apps that basically do the same thing but I don’t have an android.

Number 7 in this list might be a good place to start.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-android-apps-tune-brain-binaural-beats/

Fantastic! Thank you so much @GravitySucks

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3907 on: June 11, 2021, 06:25:15 PM »
That thing being nothing!
Plug headphones into a potato and it would do the same thing.

Is there some sort of potato app I can get?

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3908 on: June 11, 2021, 06:27:16 PM »
The Russians did research showing improved learning skills when listening to Baroque music (Bach, Vivaldi, etc.) performed at 60-bpm.

I read something similar (maybe the same study???) and my kids all did really well in school.  I even played classical driving them around, etc.
Eh, nevermind...

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3909 on: June 11, 2021, 06:33:18 PM »
Leave the potatoes alone!
The potatoes are innocent. :'(

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3910 on: June 11, 2021, 06:49:36 PM »
Is there some sort of potato app I can get?

hee hee hee

Get the iTato and turn it up to 11.


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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3912 on: June 12, 2021, 04:28:49 AM »
This is like a @Walks_At_Night find.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Holocaust_Survivor



I'll see you Miss Holocaust Survivor and raise you a Miss NASA contest.  Here is Miss NASA 1968.
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3913 on: June 12, 2021, 05:16:23 AM »
This is like a @Walks_At_Night find.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Holocaust_Survivor


I enjoyed this vid. These ladies are holding fast to life.
To quote PRINCE--Dearly beloved
We are gathered here today
To get through this thing called LIFE…. In this life, you're on your own
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Go crazy, punch a higher floor..

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3914 on: June 12, 2021, 05:17:36 AM »
I'll see you Miss Holocaust Survivor and raise you a Miss NASA contest.  Here is Miss NASA 1968.
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Is Miss NASA standing next to a robot?