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Rikki Gins Lounge => Random Topics => Topic started by: Nucky Nolan on February 21, 2019, 05:16:49 PM
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This might be fun. In this crazy world, many of us miss past decades for varied reasons. The reasons range from entertainment to political and social issues. What decade(s) would you like to live in for the categories of your choice?
I would pick the '60s for "Mad Men" fashion. The '70s would be my choice for films, as it was the period of my two faves: "The Godfather" and "Star Wars". The "80s had the best music, from pop to rock to country to urban, and that decade's Top Forty charts are like gold compared to this year's poop. The '90s were great for network TV shows, and I would be just fine if technology (for our daily lives) stopped before the start of the new millennium.
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I think I'm going in with you on the 80s for several reasons:
* The music was damned good, both rock and jazz.
* The national penetration of cable made the nasuea of network TV optional.
* Antilock brakes and fuel injection actually made cars reliable, albeit HP was meh...
* Ronald Reagan - say no more.
* Cellphones were rare and drivers less distracted.
* No major wars or conflicts.
* Most sports had not gone full-on showoff at every score or play.
* Manners still existed.
* Millenials were not let loose on society yet.
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I was a baby in the 70's but I know enough now to be able to say that without any doubt that the 70's by far had the best bass players. That's a fact, JACK!
Other than that I'll have to agree with 26 for many of the same reasons. Orrrr the 1890's.. those were the good ole days two lives ago. Ooh Fuck, I was great!
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November 22, 1963, I was in fifth grade. While in school, our principal, Mother Rose Catherine came into our classroom to annouce early dismissal at 2 PM. Something happened to our president.
As I child in the 60's, TV was my main source for entertainment. Alfred Hitchcock Presents, The Twilight Zone, The Flintstones, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, Batman, Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color and Bonanza. Music started to enter my life. She Loves You (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah)
By the 1970's, Movies and music was the happening for me. The Godfather, Jaws, The Exorcist, ROCKY, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Young Frankenstein, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Taxi Driver.
The 1980's and music was my pleasure. Too many and too much to note.
I became a volunteer/member with a local Vietnam Veterans group (I am not a veteran).
By the 1990's, I was listening to Art Bell on the radio. I was chatting in AOL's Grassy Knoll chat room.
I attended the The Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs (1989 to 1993). I learned to dislike John S. McCain.
I registered with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan became my favorite president and still remains my favorite president. I refuse to discuss politics, because I will become a "nut job".
I am not able to pick just one decade. But a fun topic. And I like fun...
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I was a baby in the 70's but I know enough now to be able to say that without any doubt that the 70's by far had the best bass players. That's a fact, JACK!
Other than that I'll have to agree with 26 for many of the same reasons. Orrrr the 1890's.. those were the good ole days two lives ago. Ooh Fuck, I was great!
John Joseph Wardle AKA Jah Wobble, original bass player with Public Image Ltd (PiL) in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The "best bass" player, to my ears.
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John Joseph Wardle AKA Jah Wobble, original bass player with Public Image Ltd (PiL) in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The "best bass" player, to my ears.
Who was your favorite bass player in Jethro Tull?
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Who was your favorite bass player in Jethro Tull?
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I think I'm going in with you on the 80s for several reasons:
* The music was damned good, both rock and jazz.
* The national penetration of cable made the nasuea of network TV optional.
* Antilock brakes and fuel injection actually made cars reliable, albeit HP was meh...
* Ronald Reagan - say no more.
* Cellphones were rare and drivers less distracted.
* No major wars or conflicts.
* Most sports had not gone full-on showoff at every score or play.
* Manners still existed.
* Millenials were not let loose on society yet.
You can pick more than one decade, but that decade also would be my first choice for the "Groundhog Day" experience. I mentioned the music. The movies and the TV shows were great too. Most things were, but the car designs were almost uniformly boring during the '80s. Automobiles seemed dependable, though. Didn't the Ford Escort and the Ford Taurus debut then? We had a blue Mustang then. I was envious of my friend's family's red '64.
Doesn't it seem like we've gone from the Golden Age of ancient Greece and ancient Rome to a new Dark Ages? Other than needless technology, it seems like we've devolved in most ways. For instance, young men now have lower levels of grip strength, sperm counts, and testosterone than young men then. Scientific studies showed this, but they also found that young women now are stronger than young women then, and there's less strength dimorphism between the genders now. I know that you could write a zillion posts on the reasons why. I also even like the neon and pastel clothes of the '80s (I swear I'm straight) more than the blah and bland fashions now that fit right in with the plain and simple decor. It's like we've gone from bright colors to shades of gray, and not just in the tacky Merry-Go-Round threads sense. Build a time machine, that can take us back to the '80s, and I'll be your first guinea pig!
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I was a baby in the 70's but I know enough now to be able to say that without any doubt that the 70's by far had the best bass players. That's a fact, JACK!
Other than that I'll have to agree with 26 for many of the same reasons. Orrrr the 1890's.. those were the good ole days two lives ago. Ooh Fuck, I was great!
I don't doubt it. The '70s was the best time for AOR. It gave rise to some of the best hard rock and heavy metal bands during the Reagan Decade, but so many classic artists produced their best material during the Me Decade. Granted, none of the songs compared to "In The Good Ol' Summertime", but barbershop quartets could always make a comeback.
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You can pick more than one decade, but that decade also would be my first choice for the "Groundhog Day" experience. I mentioned the music. The movies and the TV shows were great too. Most things were, but the car designs were almost uniformly boring during the '80s. Automobiles seemed dependable, though. Didn't the Ford Escort and the Ford Taurus debut then? We had a blue Mustang then. I was envious of my friend's family's red '64.
Doesn't it seem like we've gone from the Golden Age of ancient Greece and ancient Rome to a new Dark Ages? Other than needless technology, it seems like we've devolved in most ways. For instance, young men now have lower levels of grip strength, sperm counts, and testosterone than young men then. Scientific studies showed this, but they also found that young women now are stronger than young women then, and there's less strength dimorphism between the genders now. I know that you could write a zillion posts on the reasons why. I also even like the neon and pastel clothes of the '80s (I swear I'm straight) more than the blah and bland fashions now that fit right in with the plain and simple decor. It's like we've gone from bright colors to shades of gray, and not just in the tacky Merry-Go-Round threads sense. Build a time machine, that can take us back to the '80s, and I'll be your first guinea pig!
What blows my mind is when you seen the few old films of old decades that were done in color. For whatever reason I think almost that everything decade prior to the cheapness/availability of color film everyone just wore gray tones and even life itself was in B&W. It is a weird phenomena and totally not rational considering descriptions in books, paintings, and simple human nature's desire- but still being brought up watching B&W in every thing from war film footage, news broadcasts, movie reels, and movies that things were drab back then. When not so.
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November 22, 1963, I was in fifth grade. While in school, our principal, Mother Rose Catherine came into our classroom to annouce early dismissal at 2 PM. Something happened to our president.
As I child in the 60's, TV was my main source for entertainment. Alfred Hitchcock Presents, The Twilight Zone, The Flintstones, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, Batman, Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color and Bonanza. Music started to enter my life. She Loves You (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah)
By the 1970's, Movies and music was the happening for me. The Godfather, Jaws, The Exorcist, ROCKY, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Young Frankenstein, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Taxi Driver.
The 1980's and music was my pleasure. Too many and too much to note.
I became a volunteer/member with a local Vietnam Veterans group (I am not a veteran).
By the 1990's, I was listening to Art Bell on the radio. I was chatting in AOL's Grassy Knoll chat room.
I attended the The Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs (1989 to 1993). I learned to dislike John S. McCain.
I registered with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan became my favorite president and still remains my favorite president. I refuse to discuss politics, because I will become a "nut job".
I am not able to pick just one decade. But a fun topic. And I like fun...
I love your post! You mention some great things about the '90s, and it really is an underrated decade and not just because of the great network TV shows ("Frasier", "Seinfeld", "Friends", "Wings"). It has a cool vibe that seems to be gone now. Much of it has to do with the material dealing with conspiracy theories and paranormal events, Art Bell being the Babe Ruth of that missed phenomenon.
We don't have the same sense of hope and possibility, and the loss might not be qualifiable as it seems amorphous and indefinable. I really think that 9/11 did a real number on our psyches in ways that we have yet to grasp. It's like a national death in the family from which it's extremely difficult to recover. I apologize for the downer, and I promise to post more silly replies in the near future.
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I love your post! You mention some great things about the '90s, and it really is an underrated decade and not just because of the great network TV shows ("Frasier", "Seinfeld", "Friends", "Wings"). It has a cool vibe that seems to be gone now. Much of it has to do with the material dealing with conspiracy theories and paranormal events, Art Bell being the Babe Ruth of that missed phenomenon.
We don't have the same sense of hope and possibility, and the loss might not be qualifiable as it seems amorphous and indefinable. I really think that 9/11 did a real number on our psyches in ways that we have yet to grasp. It's like a national death in the family from which it's extremely difficult to recover. I apologize for the downer, and I promise to post more silly replies in the near future.
Are you calling Babe Ruth a quitter?
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What blows my mind is when you seen the few old films of old decades that were done in color. For whatever reason I think almost that everything decade prior to the cheapness/availability of color film everyone just wore gray tones and even life itself was in B&W. It is a weird phenomena and totally not rational considering descriptions in books, paintings, and simple human nature's desire- but still being brought up watching B&W in every thing from war film footage, news broadcasts, movie reels, and movies that things were drab back then. When not so.
I really thought that when I was a toddler when I looked at old movies and old photos. When I got older, I began to appreciate the look of classy, tasteful old shows, like "The Twilight Zone". I likely wouldn't have enjoyed them as much if they were in color. You're right that colorized B&W film can discombobulate you. In fact, I just watched a clip of the set of "The Andy Griffith Show", and it was in color. It indeed seemed jarring and unfamiliar. Your mind just makes these connections, and they're difficult to disconnect. You intellectually *know* that life was not B&W back then, but colorized film of that period (WWII comes to mind) seems like a collection of scenes from a parallel universe.
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Are you calling Babe Ruth a quitter?
I'm saying that Babe Ruth is dead. Too soon?
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It's funny, and in a way pretty darn cool that threads like this usually go in a musical direction first and foremost. Soundtracks of our lives, gentlemen. A lot to be said in the music of a decade. You simply must feel sorry for those who will only know the music of the last 20 years as, the classics. Yikes!!! Fuckin' frightening when you think about it.
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It's funny, and in a way pretty darn cool that threads like this usually go in a musical direction first and foremost. Soundtracks of our lives, gentlemen. A lot to be said in the music of a decade. You simply must feel sorry for those who will only know the music of the last 20 years as, the classics. Yikes!!! Fuckin' frightening when you think about it.
You feel sorry for the generation of Drake and Ariana Grande. My cousin's daughter is in her teens, and she likely exclusively listens to '80s music. A lot of kids are like her. I loved older stuff when I was in high school, but I still loved my generation's music.
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Cool thread.
Music, definitely the 70s. All the genres and bands. Classic Rock, Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd. Tons of R&B, Marvin Gaye too much to name really, all the early disco and mainstream disco. Nightclubs and dance Music. Then you had The Police and Van Halen getting their start and leading into the 80s. Plus the music opera movies. The amazing album art. Elvis and Frank even made comebacks. Just a great decade for music.
Movies I’d go with the 90s. All the Scorscesi classics Casino, Goodfellas. Saving Private Ryan. Braveheart. A bunch of great independent films. Swingers, Pulp Fiction, Reservoire Dogs etc...To me motion pictures hit their peak just before the CGI/Comic book turd storm arrived.
TV: 80s. A lot of classics. Cheers, Magnum, Dallas, would keep me busy stranded on an island.
Fashion is tough. I’m going with the early 60s, James Bond, Dr No, Vegas Rat Pack fashion. Classy and stylish with some attitude.
Politics, have to go with the 80s and President Ronald Reagan and Republican George Deukmehian as Gov of CA. We defeated the Soviet Union on Ice in 1980, and on the world stage by the end of the decade. The end of the Berlin Wall. And hey most had had a home computer by the end of the decade.
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Girls in 1980's spandex... but with 2010's grooming habits.
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You feel sorry for the generation of Drake and Ariana Grande. My cousin's daughter is in her teens, and she likely exclusively listens to '80s music. A lot of kids are like her. I loved older stuff when I was in high school, but I still loved my generation's music.
I'm saying that many of them will never be introduced to the tunes of yesteryear. There is room for optimism yes, but you're gonna be long dead before Dokken becomes a household name. And don't bash Dokken! They actually had some good stuff.
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Girls in 1980's spandex... but with 2010's grooming habits.
Beef curtains.
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Cool thread.
Music, definitely the 70s. All the genres and bands. Classic Rock, Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd. Tons of R&B, Marvin Gaye too much to name really, all the early disco and mainstream disco. Nightclubs and dance Music. Then you had The Police and Van Halen getting their start and leading into the 80s. Plus the music opera movies. The amazing album art. Elvis and Frank even made comebacks. Just a great decade for music.
Movies I’d go with the 90s. All the Scorscesi classics Casino, Goodfellas. Saving Private Ryan. Braveheart. A bunch of great independent films. Swingers, Pulp Fiction, Reservoire Dogs etc...To me motion pictures hit their peak just before the CGI/Comic book turd storm arrived.
TV: 80s. A lot of classics. Cheers, Magnum, Dallas, would keep me busy stranded on an island.
Fashion is tough. I’m going with the early 60s, James Bond, Dr No, Vegas Rat Pack fashion. Classy and stylish with some attitude.
Politics, have to go with the 80s and President Ronald Reagan and Republican George Deukmehian as Gov of CA. We defeated the Soviet Union on Ice in 1980, and on the world stage by the end of the decade. The end of the Berlin Wall. And hey most had had a home computer by the end of the decade.
So you're picking numerous decades.
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Cool thread.
Music, definitely the 70s. All the genres and bands. Classic Rock, Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd. Tons of R&B, Marvin Gaye too much to name really, all the early disco and mainstream disco. Nightclubs and dance Music. Then you had The Police and Van Halen getting their start and leading into the 80s. Plus the music opera movies. The amazing album art. Elvis and Frank even made comebacks. Just a great decade for music.
Movies I’d go with the 90s. All the Scorscesi classics Casino, Goodfellas. Saving Private Ryan. Braveheart. A bunch of great independent films. Swingers, Pulp Fiction, Reservoire Dogs etc...To me motion pictures hit their peak just before the CGI/Comic book turd storm arrived.
TV: 80s. A lot of classics. Cheers, Magnum, Dallas, would keep me busy stranded on an island.
Fashion is tough. I’m going with the early 60s, James Bond, Dr No, Vegas Rat Pack fashion. Classy and stylish with some attitude.
Politics, have to go with the 80s and President Ronald Reagan and Republican George Deukmehian as Gov of CA. We defeated the Soviet Union on Ice in 1980, and on the world stage by the end of the decade. The end of the Berlin Wall. And hey most had had a home computer by the end of the decade.
Your post, which is very good, shows that a lot of categories of greatness blend and blur. Frankly, I like a lot of (fill in the category) from the '60s to 9/11. Each decade, of that time span, had great movies, music, TV shows, etc.. We've gone from an embarrassment of riches to a wealth of embarrassments.
I'm with you on early '60s fashion. I like those clothes more than the clothes that came out during the psychedelic to hippie eras since I'm also into the "Mad Men" era. Even when I was a kid, I dug the suits from the James Bond films and the secret agent series and spy shows like "The Man From UNCLE" and "I Spy". Maybe they'll make a return since the disappointing hipster era (fashion hell) is over.
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Girls in 1980's spandex... but with 2010's grooming habits.
I can't argue with that. You could go to some hot yoga classes to come close to it, but I wouldn't bet on the grooming habits.
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I'm saying that many of them will never be introduced to the tunes of yesteryear. There is room for optimism yes, but you're gonna be long dead before Dokken becomes a household name. And don't bash Dokken! They actually had some good stuff.
I would never bash Dokken. I don't share the popular unbridled hate of Nickelback, as well. I get that they're generic, and some of their songs sound the same. I'll still take them over mumble rap and processed pop.
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So you're picking numerous decades.
It's allowed. I just called the hotline to get the rules.
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I would never bash Dokken. I don't share the popular unbridled hate of Nickelback, as well. I get that they're generic, and some of their songs sound the same. I'll still take them over mumble rap and processed pop.
Agreed on the Nickelback thing, I think it just kind of became cool to bash them, and.. they couldn't buy house$ fast enough.
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I was a baby in the 70's but I know enough now to be able to say that without any doubt that the 70's by far had the best bass players. That's a fact, JACK!
Other than that I'll have to agree with 26 for many of the same reasons. Orrrr the 1890's.. those were the good ole days two lives ago. Ooh Fuck, I was great!
JACK as in Jack Bruce?
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Doesn't it seem like we've gone from the Golden Age of ancient Greece and ancient Rome to a new Dark Ages? Other than needless technology, it seems like we've devolved in most ways. For instance, young men now have lower levels of grip strength, sperm counts, and testosterone than young men then. Scientific studies showed this, but they also found that young women now are stronger than young women then, and there's less strength dimorphism between the genders now. I
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Lil Abner prophesized it:
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We don't have the same sense of hope and possibility, and the loss might not be qualifiable as it seems amorphous and indefinable. I really think that 9/11 did a real number on our psyches in ways that we have yet to grasp. It's like a national death in the family from which it's extremely difficult to recover. I apologize for the downer, and I promise to post more silly replies in the near future.
And yet you are right. It forced us to see ourselves through the eyes of our enemies and in some perverse manner we as a society/nation/state became self-loathing.
Oh we were patriotic at the outset, plenty of fight back, and then...meh...we somehow developed a national Stockholm Syndrome and the media pounced on it as the final sucker punch to a system (capitalism) that they despised from the outset. They literally turned us against oursleves, and write a big fat check for themselves in the process.
We have NOT recovered, even with the hopeful, and perhaps last gasp, of Trumpism. :'(
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Cool thread.
Music, definitely the 70s. All the genres and bands. Classic Rock, Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd. Tons of R&B, Marvin Gaye too much to name really, all the early disco and mainstream disco. Nightclubs and dance Music. Then you had The Police and Van Halen getting their start and leading into the 80s. Plus the music opera movies. The amazing album art. Elvis and Frank even made comebacks. Just a great decade for music.
Rock had matured from the wet birth of the 60s and found its sonic keel, no question.
Movies I’d go with the 90s. All the Scorscesi classics Casino, Goodfellas. Saving Private Ryan. Braveheart. A bunch of great independent films. Swingers, Pulp Fiction, Reservoire Dogs etc...To me motion pictures hit their peak just before the CGI/Comic book turd storm arrived.
You could see real creativity and actual script writing, not recycling. Why does everything now have to be a reboot of some comic book?
TV: 80s. A lot of classics. Cheers, Magnum, Dallas, would keep me busy stranded on an island.
For some creepy reason even 30-Something seems poignant in a "Big Chill" kind of context...innocence was being lost, but could still be recovered.
Fashion is tough. I’m going with the early 60s, James Bond, Dr No, Vegas Rat Pack fashion. Classy and stylish with some attitude.
All hail the skinny tie and fabric with texture and substance.
Politics, have to go with the 80s and President Ronald Reagan and Republican George Deukmehian as Gov of CA. We defeated the Soviet Union on Ice in 1980, and on the world stage by the end of the decade. The end of the Berlin Wall. And hey most had had a home computer by the end of the decade.
I would mention the abomination known as DOS, but... ::) ::) ::)
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I would mention the abomination known as DOS, but... ::) ::) ::)
I got my start on the Commodore 128 and then off and running with the Amiga. A computer with graphics and sound that were 10 years ahead of the PC. An amazing machine at the time. Now it’s an iPhone and iMac. I really do despise the PC and how it’s held back computing for 4 decades. The joke that is Windows and all the unnecessary versions. It’s such a turd.
Movies are a tough category. I like the 70s a lot as well. When you look at movies that changed the industry there were several in the 1970s. Everything was grittier being shot on film. Lenses and film couldn’t shoot as well in low light so you end up with the darkness of The Godfather. Star Wars was an industry changer. Close Encounters and it’s amazing cinematography. Jaws just because it’s still a kickass adventure. The scary movies of the 70s were quite troubling. You left the theatre moved, and not in a good way. The Exorcist is freaky in any decade but at the time of its release must have just melted peoples minds.
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I got my start on the Commodore 128 and then off and running with the Amiga. A computer with graphics and sound that were 10 years ahead of the PC. An amazing machine at the time. Now it’s an iPhone and iMac. I really do despise the PC and how it’s held back computing for 4 decades. The joke that is Windows and all the unnecessary versions. It’s such a turd.
The dozer is an absolute pig, even in its better iterations (W7 and XP)... :-\
And I firmly believe that Red Hat did more damage to Linux's shot at the mainstream than the command line could ever muster.
Movies are a tough category. I like the 70s a lot as well. When you look at movies that changed the industry there were several in the 1970s. Everything was grittier being shot on film. Lenses and film couldn’t shoot as well in low light so you end up with the darkness of The Godfather. Star Wars was an industry changer. Close Encounters and it’s amazing cinematography. Jaws just because it’s still a kickass adventure. The scary movies of the 70s were quite troubling. You left the theatre moved, and not in a good way. The Exorcist is freaky in any decade but at the time of its release must have just melted peoples minds.
70s movies were oft times deceptively edgy and deeply insightful and then seemingly lost amongst the mega pics Like "Jaws" and "The Sting". The age of the blockbuster was born.
Consider quirky pics like:
"Scarecrow"
"Chinatown"
"5 Easy Pieces"
"The Last Picture Show"
"3 Women"
"Brewster McCloud"
...etc...
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I got my start on the Commodore 128 and then off and running with the Amiga. A computer with graphics and sound that were 10 years ahead of the PC. An amazing machine at the time. Now it’s an iPhone and iMac. I really do despise the PC and how it’s held back computing for 4 decades. The joke that is Windows and all the unnecessary versions. It’s such a turd.
Movies are a tough category. I like the 70s a lot as well. When you look at movies that changed the industry there were several in the 1970s. Everything was grittier being shot on film. Lenses and film couldn’t shoot as well in low light so you end up with the darkness of The Godfather. Star Wars was an industry changer. Close Encounters and it’s amazing cinematography. Jaws just because it’s still a kickass adventure. The scary movies of the 70s were quite troubling. You left the theatre moved, and not in a good way. The Exorcist is freaky in any decade but at the time of its release must have just melted peoples minds.
In the 70's, you would see the movie and read the book. Or Vice versa. I read the novel The Godfather before I saw the movie. I read JAWS and The Exorcist after seeing these movies. The Exorcist, the book is 10 times more frightening than the movie.
In 2018, after watching Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse film, do you go home and read a comic book?
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The movie Almost Famous does a great job at capturing the experience that was early 70s classic rock. Buying an album and truly savoring it. The artwork. The bigger than life band members. Sitting in a dark room “with a candle lit†and listing to the story it told. So cool. This kind of slow mythotical experience is complexly gone today in all art. It’s sad. I do think as we get older we learn how to appreciate the finer intricacies of music and film and art.
And of course Lester Bangs as played by Philllip Seymour Hoffman is absolutely classic. The way he rips Rolling Stone magazine is priceless.
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The movie Almost Famous does a great job at capturing the experience that was early 70s classic rock. Buying an album and truly savoring it. The artwork. The bigger than life band members. Sitting in a dark room “with a candle lit†and listing to the story it told. So cool. This kind of slow mythotical experience is complexly gone today in all art. It’s sad. I do think as we get older we learn how to appreciate the finer intricacies of music and film and art.
And of course Lester Bangs as played by Philllip Seymour Hoffman is absolutely classic. The way he rips Rolling Stone magazine is priceless.
+1!
"Almost Famous" like "Dazed & Confused" really "gets it".
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1940’s - Big Band music, fashion, old Hollywood
1950’s - Hollywood movies, mid-century modern homes, style, Tiki culture.
1960’s - MUSIC!!!
1970’s - Best decade for rock, also some of the best TV shows, comedy, drama, variety shows
1980’s - Themed restaurants were interesting, some good music as well, but the introduction of electric drums, synth-everything was a bit excessive and off-putting.
1990’s - Grunge made me miss the 80’s sound! Went back to listening to 60’s - 80’s music.
2000’s - Indie pop music, especially from SoCal.
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This one isn’t up for debate. Vinyl records sounds better! The art work of an vinyl album will give you some clues to what you are going to experience. With vinyl records the details are not lost and quality is not reduced--not compressed.
My brother is in the music business. He has expressed his frustration with creating a "cover" for one of his CD's that will catch your eye in a 2 inch by 2 inch frame work suitable for internet use. This is not progress.
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This one isn’t up for debate. Vinyl records sounds better! The art work of an vinyl album will give you some clues to what you are going to experience. With vinyl records the details are not lost and quality is not reduced--not compressed.
My brother is in the music business. He has expressed his frustration with creating a "cover" for one of his CD's that will catch your eye in a 2 inch by 2 inch frame work suitable for internet use. This is not progress.
Yes!!! Totally agree!
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+1!
"Almost Famous" like "Dazed & Confused" really "gets it".
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What is funny is that, as in "Dazed", the people in the decade think the others were better. If you haven't seen "Everybody Wants Some" also by Linklater I suggested it strongly. Also a very true experience of college life in Centex the early 80's, and in many ways, held over for a decade to some degree.
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This one isn’t up for debate. Vinyl records sounds better! The art work of an vinyl album will give you some clues to what you are going to experience. With vinyl records the details are not lost and quality is not reduced--not compressed.
Yabutt, you gotta keep up with using this on 'em:
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My brother is in the music business. He has expressed his frustration with creating a "cover" for one of his CD's that will catch your eye in a 2 inch by 2 inch frame work suitable for internet use. This is not progress.
Try making this work in 2x2:
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Agreed on the Nickelback thing, I think it just kind of became cool to bash them, and.. they couldn't buy house$ fast enough.
It was cool to bash Journey in the '80s, and it was cool to bash hair metal in the '90s. Like the man says, it's hip to be square.
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It was cool to bash Journey in the '80s, and it was cool to bash hair metal in the '90s. Like the man says, it's hip to be square.
Not so many folks remember Journey started as a 70s band. Greg Rollie used to be Santana's keyboardist and singer too, iirc.
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You KNOW where this sis heading, right?
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It's heading to a huge decrease in testosterone. Pajama Boy looks like half the guys on MSNBC.
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And yet you are right. It forced us to see ourselves through the eyes of our enemies and in some perverse manner we as a society/nation/state became self-loathing.
Oh we were patriotic at the outset, plenty of fight back, and then...meh...we somehow developed a national Stockholm Syndrome and the media pounced on it as the final sucker punch to a system (capitalism) that they despised from the outset. They literally turned us against oursleves, and write a big fat check for themselves in the process.
We have NOT recovered, even with the hopeful, and perhaps last gasp, of Trumpism. :'(
It's extremely difficult to recover from the twin disasters of the Bush administration and the Obama administration. Those two calamities lasted for sixteen long years! The former brought us endless war, and the latter brought us endless strife. Hillary would have been the coup de grace.
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This millennial generation needs a good cuppa:
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It's extremely difficult to recover from the twin disasters of the Bush administration and the Obama administration. Those two calamities lasted for sixteen long years! The former brought us endless war, and the latter brought us endless strife. Hillary would have been the coup de grace.
I still can't wrap my head around how easily they did it either, nothing like having a friendly swamp to gas our liberties in. :(
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1940’s - Big Band music, fashion, old Hollywood
1950’s - Hollywood movies, mid-century modern homes, style, Tiki culture.
1960’s - MUSIC!!!
1970’s - Best decade for rock, also some of the best TV shows, comedy, drama, variety shows
1980’s - Themed restaurants were interesting, some good music as well, but the introduction of electric drums, synth-everything was a bit excessive and off-putting.
1990’s - Grunge made me miss the 80’s sound! Went back to listening to 60’s - 80’s music.
2000’s - Indie pop music, especially from SoCal.
My guess is that you're older or retro. We definitely are shaped by the culture of our youth. Many Boomers were harsh critics of Generation X (my generation) in the '80s and the '90s. I promised myself that I would never be like that when I got older, but Millennials make it very hard to keep my promise. ;)
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Not so many folks remember Journey started as a 70s band. Greg Rollie used to be Santana's keyboardist and singer too, iirc.
Pepperidge Farm remembers. I do too because I took my 'member berries.
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I still can't wrap my head around how easily they did it either, nothing like having a friendly swamp to gas our liberties in. :(
It helps to have a gaslighting media. Most news anchors sound like gang stalkers.
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My guess is that you're older or retro. We definitely are shaped by the culture of our youth. Many Boomers were harsh critics of Generation X (my generation) in the '80s and the '90s. I promised myself that I would never be like that when I got older, but Millennials make it very hard to keep my promise. ;)
Gen-Xrs got a bad rap based upon their entirely reasonable cynicism at the world they were handed.
Millennials got ponies and extended basement privileges...you do the math... ::)
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It helps to have a gaslighting media. Most news anchors sound like gang stalkers.
+1
We're back to the days of "Rosebud"...
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Gen-Xrs got a bad rap based upon their entirely reasonable cynicism at the world they were handed.
Millennials got ponies and extended basement privileges...you do the math... ::)
We were the Jan Brady generation. It was always Boomers, Boomers, Boomers.
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+1
We're back to the days of "Rosebud"...
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Some people claimed that Kane was based on William Randolph Hearst. He would be based on Jeff Bezos in the remake.
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Some people claimed that Kane was based on William Randolph Hearst. He would be based on Jeff Bezos in the remake.
I think more Murdoch. Even Orson couldnt have foreseen Bezos. Though others like Fritz Lang might have. Haha.
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I think more Murdoch. Even Orson couldnt have foreseen Bezos. Though others like Fritz Lang might have. Haha.
I was talking about yellow journalism. The Washington Post has more stains than all of the newspapers in all of the pup mills.
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1940’s - Big Band music, fashion, old Hollywood
1950’s - Hollywood movies, mid-century modern homes, style, Tiki culture.
1960’s - MUSIC!!!
1970’s - Best decade for rock, also some of the best TV shows, comedy, drama, variety shows
1980’s - Themed restaurants were interesting, some good music as well, but the introduction of electric drums, synth-everything was a bit excessive and off-putting.
1990’s - Grunge made me miss the 80’s sound! Went back to listening to 60’s - 80’s music.
2000’s - Indie pop music, especially from SoCal.
You Pick The Decade. You comment on the generation that raised you.
1940’s - Big Band music, fashion, old Hollywood. @Bluejay
Both my parent grew up during The Great Depression. My mom was one of 8 children. My dad one of 10 children. My mom’s brother served in WWII. My dad and 2 of his brothers severed in WWII. Two of my mom’s brothers died during their childhood. This is also true for my dad’s family. Two of his brothers died before adulthood.
My dad served in US Army Air Corps. He was the flight engineer in the B-24D Liberator in the Pacific Theatre during WWII. He was released from the “army†19 Oct 1945.
My parents married in 1946. My brothers and I were born in the 1950’s. My parents enjoyed Big Band music. Mom was a huge Frank Sinatra fan. It took many years for my dad to become a Sinatra fan. Mom loved her Bette Davis movies. Dad had his John Wayne movies. Dad never talked about WWII. Not only did dad love cowboy, gangster but also WWII movies. The first drive in movie I saw was “The Longest Day†with my dad and my brothers. Mom did not want to see this movie.
I was raised with the music from the 40’s-Big Bands and singers from the 50’s. As for “fashionâ€, our family did not have fashion. My mom had a few aprons. However, mom always had great hair styles. Growing up, I believed that we had money. However, that was not the reality. There were times, my mom would cry if the song “God Bless America†was played on the radio. As a child I did not understand why mom would cry. Now I understand.
Shortly before my dad’s passing over he talked to one of my brothers about his experience as a flight engineer during WWII. About 5 years ago, I took a “ride†in a Consolidated B-24J Liberator (Collings Foundation). A B-24 is huge on the outside, narrow on the inside, hardly any room for humans. The sound of those 4 engines starting up was powerful. The fumes and the wind assaulted your senses. I never appreciated my dad’s bravery, until after my flight in the Liberator. I never knew when dad said “we are riding on fumes†to us as kids, that he actually experienced riding on fumes.
I appreciate the music from the 40’s and 50’s and female hair styles from the 40’s. I love movies from old Hollywood. To say that I had a great childhood would be an understatement.
Photo of one my dad’s technical drawing of the B-24D.
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My father also flew in a B-24. A few years before he passed on we went to the 8th Air Force museum in Savannah where they have a setup that simulates a bombing run. They various video screens, a huge fan to blow wind, and speakers to simulate the noise. My father said it was fairly realistic. If you’re ever down this way, you might want to pop in.
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Some people claimed that Kane was based on William Randolph Hearst. He would be based on Jeff Bezos in the remake.
Funny old thing how history prefers rhymes over actual repeats, innit?
Bezos' Rosebud ain't all that spiffy, imo.
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You Pick The Decade. You comment on the generation that raised you.
1940’s - Big Band music, fashion, old Hollywood. @Bluejay
Both my parent grew up during The Great Depression. My mom was one of 8 children. My dad one of 10 children. My mom’s brother served in WWII. My dad and 2 of his brothers severed in WWII. Two of my mom’s brothers died during their childhood. This is also true for my dad’s family. Two of his brothers died before adulthood.
My dad served in US Army Air Corps. He was the flight engineer in the B-24D Liberator in the Pacific Theatre during WWII. He was released from the “army†19 Oct 1945.
My parents married in 1946. My brothers and I were born in the 1950’s. My parents enjoyed Big Band music. Mom was a huge Frank Sinatra fan. It took many years for my dad to become a Sinatra fan. Mom loved her Bette Davis movies. Dad had his John Wayne movies. Dad never talked about WWII. Not only did dad love cowboy, gangster but also WWII movies. The first drive in movie I saw was “The Longest Day†with my dad and my brothers. Mom did not want to see this movie.
I was raised with the music from the 40’s-Big Bands and singers from the 50’s. As for “fashionâ€, our family did not have fashion. My mom had a few aprons. However, mom always had great hair styles. Growing up, I believed that we had money. However, that was not the reality. There were times, my mom would cry if the song “God Bless America†was played on the radio. As a child I did not understand why mom would cry. Now I understand.
Shortly before my dad’s passing over he talked to one of my brothers about his experience as a flight engineer during WWII. About 5 years ago, I took a “ride†in a Consolidated B-24J Liberator (Collings Foundation). A B-24 is huge on the outside, narrow on the inside, hardly any room for humans. The sound of those 4 engines starting up was powerful. The fumes and the wind assaulted your senses. I never appreciated my dad’s bravery, until after my flight in the Liberator. I never knew when dad said “we are riding on fumes†to us as kids, that he actually experienced riding on fumes.
I appreciate the music from the 40’s and 50’s and female hair styles from the 40’s. I love movies from old Hollywood. To say that I had a great childhood would be an understatement.
Photo of one my dad’s technical drawing of the B-24D.
Wonderful memories. Thanks for sharing with us!
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I was talking about yellow journalism. The Washington Post has more stains than all of the newspapers in all of the pup mills.
Amen.
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My father also flew in a B-24. A few years before he passed on we went to the 8th Air Force museum in Savannah where they have a setup that simulates a bombing run. They various video screens, a huge fan to blow wind, and speakers to simulate the noise. My father said it was fairly realistic. If you’re ever down this way, you might want to pop in.
Greetings @juan . I thank your father for his Service. While in New Orleans, my son took his family to visit The National WWII Museum. He "looked up" the history of his grandfather. My father served in the 307th Bomb Group of the 13th Air Force. I have been to Savannah a few times for it's St Patrick Day celebration/parade. Haunting City. I was not aware of the 8th Air Force museum. I can only imagine how this experience was for you and your father. Did this experience capture the noise, the fumes, the wind, no real seating, the flooring, the cat walk, no bathroom (LOL) and the vulnerability for you? It took real courage to fly in a B-24. Our Veterans make so many sacrifices during a war. If I ever return to Savannah, I will stop over to the museum.
photo of my seat on a B-24.
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I was talking about yellow journalism. The Washington Post has more stains than all of the newspapers in all of the pup mills.
Under Graham family it was connected and would cover-up stuff, I mean he was the head of the Federal friggin Reserve prior! His dad was a friggin Meyer and PRESIDENT of Lazard Frères & Co!!! I just figure the Bezos era is taking it to the inevitable conclusion of total melding of private enterprise and banking, news, and government. Wonder where one has seen that before? Wonder why Nixon ranted against certain "elements" back in the day?
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Funny old thing how history prefers rhymes over actual repeats, innit?
Bezos' Rosebud ain't all that spiffy, imo.
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/apr/25/citizen-kane-rosebud
It circles back to Rosebud: the anti-riddle of the anti-Sphinx. Welles himself playfully claimed that the word was Hearst’s own term for his wife’s genitalia, and so naturally the mogul was annoyed. Another false trail. The murmuring of “Rosebud†is in one way the film’s teasing offer of synecdoche: the part for the whole, the one jigsaw piece that is in fact the whole puzzle. But it isn’t.
Rosebud is more probably Welles’s intuition of the illusory flashback effect of memory that will affect all of us, particularly at the very end of our lives: the awful conviction that childhood memories are better, simpler, more real than adult memories – that childhood memories are the only things which are real. The remembered details of early existence – moments, sensations and images – have an arbitrary poetic authenticity which is a by-product of being detached from the prosaic context and perspective which encumbers adult minds, the rational understanding which would rob them of their mysterious force. We all have around two or three radioactive Rosebud fragments of childhood memory in our minds, which will return on our deathbeds to mock the insubstantial dream of our lives.
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As decades go, I'm not picking this one because:
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Funny old thing how history prefers rhymes over actual repeats, innit?
Bezos' Rosebud ain't all that spiffy, imo.
We live in weird times when history won't rhyme. It's more like garbled words from mumble raps.
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Amen.
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The New York Times would never print that racist cartoon now. Yet, they're cool with that racist Yellow kid, Sarah Jeong.
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Under Graham family it was connected and would cover-up stuff, I mean he was the head of the Federal friggin Reserve prior! His dad was a friggin Meyer and PRESIDENT of Lazard Frères & Co!!! I just figure the Bezos era is taking it to the inevitable conclusion of total melding of private enterprise and banking, news, and government. Wonder where one has seen that before? Wonder why Nixon ranted against certain "elements" back in the day?
There's no doubt about it. The Grahams were Bilderbergers when the Bilderbergers weren't cool (or known). They definitely were propagandists, but they were at a "5". Jeff turned up the Washington Post to an "11".
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As decades go, I'm not picking this one because:
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A picture is worth a thousand words. I like the dude with the beer-gut in the background cringing as he calls the loony bin and trying to describe whatever those people are in front.
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There's no doubt about it. The Grahams were Bilderbergers when the Bilderbergers weren't cool (or known). They definitely were propagandists, but they were at a "5". Jeff turned up the Washington Post to an "11".
AWS hosts our secret and non-secret data now for the government, in addition to many other websites private and public. Lots of info to data-mine and exploit.
https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2017/11/amazon-web-services-announces-secret-cloud-region-cia/142662/
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AWS hosts our secret and non-secret data now for the government, in addition to many other websites private and public. Lots of info to data-mine and exploit.
https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2017/11/amazon-web-services-announces-secret-cloud-region-cia/142662/
This is why I'm a semi-Luddite. I'm the new version of the old Amish, and I shun technology made after 9/11.
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The New York Times would never print that racist cartoon now. Yet, they're cool with that racist Yellow kid, Sarah Jeong.
Nice catch there! :)
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Nice catch there! :)
That one was even before *my* time. Notice that no PC leftists are bothered by the caricatures and stereotypes of mountain people in Lil' Abner.
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Being a horror movie fanatic and after watching literally decades worth of offerings I will say that hands down the most original story laden best of the best horror films come out of the 70's. I will add that The Shining was released in 1980 but written and filmed in the 70's so that counts ;)
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Being a horror movie fanatic and after watching literally decades worth of offerings I will say that hands down the most original story laden best of the best horror films come out of the 70's. I will add that The Shining was released in 1980 but written and filmed in the 70's so that counts ;)
That was the decade when drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. It also was the time when there were many "devil movies", some of which featured creepy cults that threatened new people in small towns. That seemed to be the plot of more than a few TV movies that featured a roster of where-are-they-now actors. Well, we know where some of them are, thanks to Father Time.
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As decades go, I'm not picking this one because:
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@albrecht notes A picture is worth a thousand words. If you look at the express of beer gut man, I have that same expression as I learn "the news" each day. I see the problems. I don't see the solutions. As my country is taken over by those who wear high toe shoes, I don't know how to stop these people from taking over our world. True horror for me is our media, our politicians (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), business giants and loss of critical thinking. I listen to Mark Levin almost every night. I am so frustrated hearing about the problems. What are the solutions? For me it is easier to comment on entertainment over the years, than to address the current events in 2019.
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That was the decade when drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. It also was the time when there were many "devil movies", some of which featured creepy cults that threatened new people in small towns. That seemed to be the plot of more than a few TV movies that featured a roster of where-are-they-now actors. Well, we know where some of them are, thanks to Father Time.
drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. During the 60's, I was aging from my childhood into my teens. My parents would not allow me to go see a horror movie at the movie theater. I had to watch The Haunting (1963), The Innocents (1961), The Birds (1963), Psycho (1960) and Rosemary's Baby (1968) years later.
To this day, The Haunting (1963), The Exorcist (1973) and The Shining(1983) are my top 3 horror movies.
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drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. During the 60's, I was aging from my childhood into my teens. My parents would not allow me to go see a horror movie at the movie theater. I had to watch The Haunting (1963), The Innocents (1961), The Birds (1963), Psycho (1960) and Rosemary's Baby (1968) years later.
To this day, The Haunting (1963), The Exorcist (1973) and The Shining(1983) are my top 3 horror movies.
I saw the exorcist on the big screen when it was first released. It made an impression on me that lingered for days and I'm fearless.
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I saw the exorcist on the big screen when it was first released. It made an impression on me that lingered for days and I'm fearless.
Same here, sacred the living daylights out of my girlfriend at the time and made me happy the theater left the footlights up a bit so folks could bail for the lobby at key scenes, and they did.
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That was the decade when drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. It also was the time when there were many "devil movies", some of which featured creepy cults that threatened new people in small towns. That seemed to be the plot of more than a few TV movies that featured a roster of where-are-they-now actors. Well, we know where some of them are, thanks to Father Time.
Hesitate to promote Alphabet but lots of Made-For-TV movies are available on said youtube platform. One of the few benefits of our global overlord.
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@albrecht notes A picture is worth a thousand words. If you look at the express of beer gut man, I have that same expression as I learn "the news" each day. I see the problems. I don't see the solutions. As my country is taken over by those who wear high toe shoes, I don't know how to stop these people from taking over our world. True horror for me is our media, our politicians (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), business giants and loss of critical thinking. I listen to Mark Levin almost every night. I am so frustrated hearing about the problems. What are the solutions? For me it is easier to comment on entertainment over the years, than to address the current events in 2019.
IDK. Hunker down and await/witness the collapse? But who knows? Maybe out of chaos; order? Haha. ;)
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Hesitate to promote Alphabet but lots of Made-For-TV movies are available on said youtube platform. One of the few benefits of our global overlord.
Youtube has even produced an actual semi-pro quarterback:
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I saw the exorcist on the big screen when it was first released. It made an impression on me that lingered for days and I'm fearless.
Saw The Grudge in an empty theatre when it came out. Did the same thing to me. It’s been 15 years and I still wake up from dreams I’m in that movie and I can’t sleep. Just happened last week. Watch it every few years and it still scares the crap out of me.
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drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. During the 60's, I was aging from my childhood into my teens. My parents would not allow me to go see a horror movie at the movie theater. I had to watch The Haunting (1963), The Innocents (1961), The Birds (1963), Psycho (1960) and Rosemary's Baby (1968) years later.
To this day, The Haunting (1963), The Exorcist (1973) and The Shining(1983) are my top 3 horror movies.
Excellent list. The Innocents (1961) The Changeling (1980) The Uninvited (1944) are also good. For some reason, though upon rewatching recently not as much, "Let's Scare Jessica To Death" (1971) and "The Sentinel" (1977) always creeped me out.
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Saw The Grudge in an empty theatre when it came out. Did the same thing to me. It’s been 15 years and I still wake up from dreams I’m in that movie and I can’t sleep. Just happened last week. Watch it every few years and it still scares the crap out of me.
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Excellent list. The Innocents (1961) The Changeling (1980) The Uninvited (1944) are also good. For some reason, though upon rewatching recently not as much, "Let's Scare Jessica To Death" (1971) and "The Sentinel" (1977) always creeped me out.
I have yet to see Let's Scare Jessica To Death :-[ Saw The Changeling in the theatres when I was a kid and gadzooks! it scared the fkn shit outta' me. We must have snuck in because there's no way they would have let two snotnose little shits like me and my best friend in at our ages.
..those attic stairs leading up to the poor crippled sons room.. yeeks :o
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I have yet to see Let's Scare Jessica To Death :-[ Saw The Changeling in the theatres when I was a kid and gadzooks! it scared the fkn shit outta' me. We must have snuck in because there's no way they would have let two snotnose little shits like me and my best friend in at our ages.
..those attic stairs leading up to the poor crippled sons room.. yeeks :o
Attics leading to crippled people in diapers always a scary combo.
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IDK. Hunker down and await/witness the collapse? But who knows? Maybe out of chaos; order? Haha. ;)
I hope that we are not witnessing the collapse. I live in a big city that is ruled by one party. Only 9 percent are registered Republican. Our primary elections is the true election. Only the Democratic candidate will win in the general election in my city of 1.581 million people. I am part of that 9% where I live, where I work. On the job, I do not have the freedom to talk about politics. I am exaggerating, I have the freedom, however I will suffer great consequences. Bigot/Racist/Homophobe.
The day after Obama won in 2012 I called out sick from work that following day. I was sick.
The day after Trump won in 2017 I called out sick from work that following day. I was jubilate.
For the record, I rarely called out at work.
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Attics leading to crippled people in diapers always a scary combo.
That is my worst fear. To be crippled wearing a diaper.
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Asian movies that made me double check if my doors were locked. As if that would keep me safe.
Ringu
Ju-on: The Grudge
A Tale of Two Sisters
Audition
I Saw the Devil
Shikoku
Oldboy
Memories of Murder
Suicide Club
The Wailing
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I hope that we are not witnessing the collapse. I live in a big city that is ruled by one party. Only 9 percent are registered Republican. Our primary elections is the true election. Only the Democratic candidate will win in the general election in my city of 1.581 million people. I am part of that 9% where I live, where I work. On the job, I do not have the freedom to talk about politics. I am exaggerating, I have the freedom, however I will suffer great consequences. Bigot/Racist/Homophobe.
The day after Obama won in 2012 I called out sick from work that following day. I was sick.
The day after Trump won in 2017 I called out sick from work that following day. I was jubilate.
For the record, I rarely called out at work.
Just remember, when it comes down to it- lead is more precious than gold or silver. ;) Skousen etc would say get out of the cities but to each their own. I recall some show about how to survive in the city in an apartment even. The key is NOT to flee when the TSHTF, because already too late and that will be the initial source of chaos, but hunker down. Don't allow light to escape from windows or doors and don't make noises.
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Just remember, when it comes down to it- lead is more precious than gold or silver. ;) Skousen etc would say get out of the cities but to each their own. I recall some show about how to survive in the city in an apartment even. The key is NOT to flee when the TSHTF, because already too late and that will be the initial source of chaos, but hunker down. Don't allow light to escape from windows or doors and don't make noises.
My better half, has picked up more lead to protect the gold and silver. Recently, I had to stop watching the news. Everyone is making their fortune as they report the collapse of our country. New reporting on cable stations has become mere entertainment. What channel do you watch, that is up to you. These beautiful well dressed news host will tell you everything that is wrong with the USA. I want to see some ugly people reporting the news and giving us solutions. I want to see some big noses, bad teeth, bad hair new reporters.
Watching The Fall of the Western Roman Empire on YouTube is more entertaining for me.
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Just remember, when it comes down to it- lead is more precious than gold or silver. ;) Skousen etc would say get out of the cities but to each their own. I recall some show about how to survive in the city in an apartment even. The key is NOT to flee when the TSHTF, because already too late and that will be the initial source of chaos, but hunker down. Don't allow light to escape from windows or doors and don't make noises.
I may have seen that film...
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I may have seen that film...
It's the year 2022... People are still the same. They'll do anything to get what they need. And they need SOYLENT GREEN.
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That's another great one.
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I may have seen that film...
Great movie and actor. And so well dressed, even during an apocalypse!
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drama and suspense were stressed more than blood and gore. During the 60's, I was aging from my childhood into my teens. My parents would not allow me to go see a horror movie at the movie theater. I had to watch The Haunting (1963), The Innocents (1961), The Birds (1963), Psycho (1960) and Rosemary's Baby (1968) years later.
To this day, The Haunting (1963), The Exorcist (1973) and The Shining(1983) are my top 3 horror movies.
Other than "The Birds", those are among my fave horror movies. I exclude "The Birds" because I just saw scenes from it. "The Haunting" is my fave ghost movie, and it's in my top ten list of all horror movies. Let's hope and pray that they don't make a third installment!
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Hesitate to promote Alphabet but lots of Made-For-TV movies are available on said youtube platform. One of the few benefits of our global overlord.
I noticed that. I saved playlists of "Friday The 13th" (TV series) and "She Wolf Of London". They're a bit dated now, but they're still enjoyable. Thankfully, they don't deal with the dangerous, verboten Flat Earth, a heresy that may lead to banishment from the Tube.
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That is my worst fear. To be crippled wearing a diaper.
I'm similar. Except, my worst fear is that I'll have to change said diaper.
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Does the current decade (2010-2019) have a nickname? In the future what will this decade be known as? Will the movies/music be remembered from our current time period?
Tonight is The Oscars 2019 | 91st Academy Awards. Time for the arrogant idiots to speak.
Best Picture is a designation that should MEAN SOMETHING. It no longer has meaning. It seems that a male is wearing a tuxedo gown at the Oscars. Move over Nero, Billy Porter is making history.
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Does the current decade (2010-2019) have a nickname? In the future what will this decade be known as? Will the movies/music be remembered from our current time period?
Tonight is The Oscars 2019 | 91st Academy Awards. Time for the arrogant idiots to speak.
Best Picture is a designation that should MEAN SOMETHING. It no longer has meaning. It seems that a male is wearing a tuxedo gown at the Oscars. Move over Nero, Billy Porter is making history.
WTF. Though whoever that is, I think a presenter, in the yellow dress is obviously a feminist, as is the dress maker.
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Excellent list. The Innocents (1961) The Changeling (1980) The Uninvited (1944) are also good. For some reason, though upon rewatching recently not as much, "Let's Scare Jessica To Death" (1971) and "The Sentinel" (1977) always creeped me out.
Top Ten Ghost Movies:
.The Haunting
.The Innocents
.Poltergeist
.The Shining
.The Changeling
.Ghost Story
.The Others
.The Ring
.The Fog
.The Legend Of Hell House
This is the official list from the Department Of Official Lists in Washington, so it's not just my personal, subjective opinion.
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I noticed that. I saved playlists of "Friday The 13th" (TV series) and "She Wolf Of London". They're a bit dated now, but they're still enjoyable. Thankfully, they don't deal with the dangerous, verboten Flat Earth, a heresy that may lead to banishment from the Tube.
Lots of good made-for-tv movies on the youtube. Funny that some of them are actually "edgy," to use an awful term, to this day, I doubt subjects would be done now due to political correctness, snowflakes, and etc. Obvious quality is lacking but, personally, I don't like perfection in film because seems fake. Funny that now some makers actually try to recreate 'griity' or real film using modern technology.
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Does the current decade (2010-2019) have a nickname? In the future what will this decade be known as? Will the movies/music be remembered from our current time period?
Tonight is The Oscars 2019 | 91st Academy Awards. Time for the arrogant idiots to speak.
Best Picture is a designation that should MEAN SOMETHING. It no longer has meaning. It seems that a male is wearing a tuxedo gown at the Oscars. Move over Nero, Billy Porter is making history.
I'm watching it as I type this. I heard that it might be a televised disaster right up there with the Hindenburg and the Titanic. There are a lot of things that could go wrong according to the articles I skimmed. I'm also in the mood to yell at my TV tonight.
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Top Ten Ghost Movies:
.The Haunting
.The Innocents
.Poltergeist
.The Shining
.The Changeling
.Ghost Story
.The Others
.The Ring
.The Fog
.The Legend Of Hell House
This is the official list from the Department Of Official Lists in Washington, so it's not just my personal, subjective opinion.
A very good list coming from an Official List. I forgot about the movie Ghost Story. Very creepy story. The movie had some great actors-John Houseman, Patricia Neal, Fred Astaire, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., and Melvyn Douglas. The novel written by Peter Straub was an excellent read.
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A very good list coming from an Official List. I forgot about the movie Ghost Story. Very creepy story. The movie had some great actors-John Houseman, Patricia Neal, Fred Astaire, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., and Melvyn Douglas. The novel written by Peter Straub was an excellent read.
And Houseman was the intro to The Fog. Maybe it is me but, somehow, certain movies are better at the beginnings. If only the directors could keep that mood going but tend to go to effects or such. The Mist is another example.
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Lots of good made-for-tv movies on the youtube. Funny that some of them are actually "edgy," to use an awful term, to this day, I doubt subjects would be done now due to political correctness, snowflakes, and etc. Obvious quality is lacking but, personally, I don't like perfection in film because seems fake. Funny that now some makers actually try to recreate 'griity' or real film using modern technology.
I wish Hollywood would be done with 'A Star Is Born'. Lady Gaga's version of the movie A Star Is Born is the fourth adaption of the film. I am taking a guess, no one in Hollywood can find/read a great novel to make a film? How many remakes do we have to endure in our life time?
Back to your comment. Tell me the name of a good movie on YouTube. I am not always fond of perfection in people, movies or music. I enjoy live music because it is not perfect.
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I wish Hollywood would be done with 'A Star Is Born'. Lady Gaga's version of the movie A Star Is Born is the fourth adaption of the film. I am taking a guess, no one in Hollywood can find/read a great novel to make a film? How many remakes do we have to endure in our life time?
Back to your comment. Tell me the name of a good movie on YouTube. I am not always fond of perfection in people, movies or music. I enjoy live music because it is not perfect.
I can't because it is a matter of taste. But if you do the youtube and search around you will find some of the good old "movies of the week" etc made-for-tv stuff. Some good, some bad. Here is one that is C2C style, sorta.
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I can't because it is a matter of taste. But if you do the youtube and search around you will find some of the good old "movies of the week" etc made-for-tv stuff. Some good, some bad. Here is one that is C2C style, sorta.
OK, thanks. I watch YouTube for documentaries. I never search for movies. Thanks for the suggestion. Years ago, I remember Art Bell saying that airplanes could be haunted. Art Bell had heard many stories about haunted airplanes. He would not share the stories due to possible trouble from airplane manufacturers.
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OK, thanks. I watch YouTube for documentaries. I never search for movies. Thanks for the suggestion. Years ago, I remember Art Bell saying that airplanes could be haunted. Art Bell had heard many stories about haunted airplanes. He would not share the stories due to possible trouble from airplane manufacturers.
If you look around it was a "thing." And parts of old planes being recycled, even post accident, and apparent haunting or bad luck. Of course also hampered by "fake" parts which is also an issue, or was, hopefully.
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Top Ten Ghost Movies:
.The Haunting
.The Innocents
.Poltergeist
.The Shining
.The Changeling
.Ghost Story
.The Others
.The Ring
.The Fog
.The Legend Of Hell House
This is the official list from the Department Of Official Lists in Washington, so it's not just my personal, subjective opinion.
I would attach a rider to that playbill:
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I would attach a rider to that playbill:
I thought about that one when I made my list. "The Legend Of Hell House" could be replaced by it since I wasn't definitely sure about that choice. I thought about "The Haunting Of Hull House" and "The Uninvited" too. Ditto for some Generation Z flicks that those darn kids, on my lawn, like.
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A very good list coming from an Official List. I forgot about the movie Ghost Story. Very creepy story. The movie had some great actors-John Houseman, Patricia Neal, Fred Astaire, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., and Melvyn Douglas. The novel written by Peter Straub was an excellent read.
Even the books were better back then. I thought that the movie and TV adaptations of "The Shining" and "The Stand", respectively, weren't as thrilling as the book versions, but they were great just the same. It's almost impossible to include all of the things in books without doing "War And Peace". The chilling Casper, The Friendly Ghost film series show this as the screen versions weren't as horrifying as the original cartoons, as well as the Harvey comic books, works that are in the horror canon along with Poe, Shelley, Stoker, etc..
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Even the books were better back then. I thought that the movie and TV adaptations of "The Shining" and "The Stand", respectively, weren't as thrilling as the book versions, but they were great just the same. It's almost impossible to include all of the things in books without doing "War And Peace". The chilling Casper, The Friendly Ghost film series show this as the screen versions weren't as horrifying as the original cartoons, as well as the Harvey comic books, works that are in the horror canon along with Poe, Shelley, Stoker, etc..
I swear a cheap paperback copy of Shirley's work had this on cover. And also a good movie but, unrelated.
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I swear a cheap paperback copy of Shirley's work had this on cover. And also a good movie but, unrelated.
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Ah, she's showing just one eye. My Illuminati detector just beeped. ;)
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Not a great film, but FF Coppola cred:
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Ah, she's showing just one eye. My Illuminati detector just beeped. ;)
They tell what they do. Good eye. And one eye peeled. Out for now, said Oscar party. Excuse for booze.....maybe mayhem if I can rile neighbors to such.
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They tell what they do. Good eye. And one eye peeled. Out for now, said Oscar party. Excuse for booze.....maybe mayhem if I can rile neighbors to such.
I'm watching it because I'm in a masochistic mood. It's more SJW than "Eyes Wide Shut" so far.
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Even the books were better back then. I thought that the movie and TV adaptations of "The Shining" and "The Stand", respectively, weren't as thrilling as the book versions, but they were great just the same. It's almost impossible to include all of the things in books without doing "War And Peace". The chilling Casper, The Friendly Ghost film series show this as the screen versions weren't as horrifying as the original cartoons, as well as the Harvey comic books, works that are in the horror canon along with Poe, Shelley, Stoker, etc..
After having read the book, The Godfather is the only novel adapted for film that I didn't find disappointing. While some interesting characters and their stories were left out or given short shrift the film was true to the novel in terms of the basic storyline, it's portrayal of the central characters and it's description of the criminal activities of La Cosa Nostra, it's organization and its methods. Some of what was left out of God Father I was included in God Father II which also did justice to Mario Puzo's novel and is the best sequel that I have seen. Godfather III did not measure up to I and II IMHO.
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If you look around it was a "thing." And parts of old planes being recycled, even post accident, and apparent haunting or bad luck. Of course also hampered by "fake" parts which is also an issue, or was, hopefully.
Last night I watched The Ghost of The Ghost of Flight 401 (TV 1978) and some of the documentaries on Flight 401. I enjoyed this little movie. Perhaps flight 401 haunting is the most extraordinary and credible research ever documented. By chance, a friend who has a home in Florida stopped over. He was very interested in this ghost phenomenon. He noted that there are several mysterious incidents in the swamps of Florida. Thank you for sharing this story not only for my interest but also my Floridian friend's interest.
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I would attach a rider to that playbill:
William Castle's "Emergo".
A skeleton with red lighted eye sockets attached to wire floated over the audience in the final moments of some showings of the film.
A good read.
http://morbidlybeautiful.com/eerie-essentials-house-on-haunted-hill/
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Even the books were better back then. I thought that the movie and TV adaptations of "The Shining" and "The Stand", respectively, weren't as thrilling as the book versions, but they were great just the same. It's almost impossible to include all of the things in books without doing "War And Peace". The chilling Casper, The Friendly Ghost film series show this as the screen versions weren't as horrifying as the original cartoons, as well as the Harvey comic books, works that are in the horror canon along with Poe, Shelley, Stoker, etc..
As I age, I read less novels. Yet, a scary novel was great fun but very time consuming. What can I say about Stephen King that has not been said?
I never read Ira Levin's Rosemary's Baby (1967). Levin also wrote The Boys from Brazil (1976).
William Castle had crossed the producer/director's "Rubicon†with Rosemary's Baby (1968). They say William Castle became sick with worry from the hate mail he received constantly regarding this film, Rosemary's Baby. Strange how so many horror movies end up with a "curse". Truth or Trash?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tingler
William Castle was famous for his movie gimmicks, and The Tingler featured one of his best: "Percepto!". Previously, he had offered a $1,000 life insurance policy against "Death by Fright" for Macabre (1958) and sent a skeleton flying above the audiences' heads in the auditorium in House on Haunted Hill (1959).
Percepto: "Scream for your lives!"[edit]
"Percepto!" was a gimmick where Castle attached electrical "buzzers" to the underside of some seats in theaters where The Tingler was screened.[8] The buzzers were small surplus airplane wing deicing motors left from World War II. The cost of this equipment added $250,000 to the film's budget. It was used predominantly in larger theaters.
During the climax of the film, The Tingler was unleashed in the movie theater, while the audience watched Tol'able David (1921), in which a young woman escapes the unwanted advances of her boyfriend and is targeted. In the real-life theater, a woman screamed and then pretended to faint; she was then taken away in a stretcher, all part of the show arranged by Castle.[6] From the screen, the voice of Price mentioned the fainted lady and asked the rest of the audience to remain seated. The film-within-a-film resumed and was interrupted again. The projected film appeared to break as the silhouette of the tingler moved across the projection beam. The image of the film went dark, all lights in the auditorium (except fire exit signs) went off, and Price's voice warned the audience, "Ladies and gentlemen, please do not panic. But scream! Scream for your lives! The tingler is loose in this theater!"[9] This cued the theater projectionist to activate the Percepto! buzzers, giving some audience members an unexpected jolt, followed by a highly visible physical reaction. The voices of scared patrons were heard from the screen, replaced by the voice of Price, who explained that the tingler was paralyzed and the danger was over. At this point, the film resumed its normal format, which was used for its epilogue.[6]
An alternate warning was recorded for drive-in theaters; this warning advised the audience the tingler was loose in the drive-in. Castle's voice was substituted for Price's in this version.
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After having read the book, The Godfather is the only novel adapted for film that I didn't find disappointing. While some interesting characters and their stories were left out or given short shrift the film was true to the novel in terms of the basic storyline, it's portrayal of the central characters and it's description of the criminal activities of La Cosa Nostra, it's organization and its methods. Some of what was left out of God Father I was included in God Father II which also did justice to Mario Puzo's novel and is the best sequel that I have seen. Godfather III did not measure up to I and II IMHO.
"The Godfather" and "Star Wars" are my favorite films. "The Godfather II" is right up there. "The Godfather III" may be the most important one. I say that because it features references to one of the biggest conspiracy theories, as well as one of the biggest papal scandals. Some people believe that Pope John Paul I was murdered. It's a fact that Italian Freemasons and the Vatican Bank committed crimes. The third installment deals with all of that, and some individuals speculate that the third prophecy of the miracle of Fatima does too. Here comes Albrecht in one, two, three,.... ;)
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As I age, I read less novels. Yet, a scary novel was great fun but very time consuming. What can I say about Stephen King that has not been said?
I never read Ira Levin's Rosemary's Baby (1967). Levin also wrote The Boys from Brazil (1976).
William Castle had crossed the producer/director's "Rubicon†with Rosemary's Baby (1968). They say William Castle became sick with worry from the hate mail he received constantly regarding this film, Rosemary's Baby. Strange how so many horror movies end up with a "curse". Truth or Trash?
I didn't know that Levin wrote "The Boys From Brazil". In any event, I think that there's some truth to the trash. There may or may not be a curse, but Polanski directed the film. We all know what happened to his wife at the time, Sharon Tate. Then, there's the story that Anton Lavey played the devil in the movie. The Manson cult and the Process Church Of The Final Judgment have links. The latter is "linked to Satan". Kevin Bacon might be in there somewhere too. ;)
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"The Godfather" and "Star Wars" are my favorite films. "The Godfather II" is right up there. "The Godfather III" may be the most important one. I say that because it features references to one of the biggest conspiracy theories, as well as one of the biggest papal scandals. Some people believe that Pope John Paul I was murdered. It's a fact that Italian Freemasons and the Vatican Bank committed crimes. The third installment deals with all of that, and some individuals speculate that the third prophecy of the miracle of Fatima does too. Here comes Albrecht in one, two, three,.... ;)
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Last night I watched The Ghost of The Ghost of Flight 401 (TV 1978) and some of the documentaries on Flight 401. I enjoyed this little movie. Perhaps flight 401 haunting is the most extraordinary and credible research ever documented. By chance, a friend who has a home in Florida stopped over. He was very interested in this ghost phenomenon. He noted that there are several mysterious incidents in the swamps of Florida. Thank you for sharing this story not only for my interest but also my Floridian friend's interest.
Glad you liked it. The crash is still controversial aside from the rumors of haunted parts.
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I knew that I could count on you. Let's remember the "Illuminati" Agnelli family too.
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@albrecht , watching Gods Bank Manager now. :o
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Music of each decade ranked in order, best to worst:
1970s
1960s
1950s
1940s
1930s
1920s
1980s
1990s
2000s
2010s
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Music of each decade ranked in order, best to worst:
1970s
1960s
1950s
1940s
1930s
1920s
1980s
1990s
2000s
2010s
I will tread lightly around you. It's just a matter of time before you tell me to get off your lawn.
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Music of each decade ranked in order, best to worst:
1970s
1960s
1950s
1940s
1930s
1920s
1980s
1990s
2000s
2010s
I'd have to demur on your ranking of the 80s and 90s - but the 00s and 10s deserve the cellar.
1970s
1960s
1980s
1990s
1950s
1940s
1930s
1920s
2000s
2010s
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I'd have to demur on your ranking of the 80s and 90s - but the 00s and 10s deserve the cellar.
1970s
1960s
1980s
1990s
1950s
1940s
1930s
1920s
2000s
2010s
The '60s are first in fashion (the "Mad Men" era). The '70s are first in films. The '80s are first in music (combination of all genres), and the '90s are first in network TV shows. The 2010s are first in insanity and nervous breakdowns.
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I'd have to demur on your ranking of the 80s and 90s - but the 00s and 10s deserve the cellar...
It's funny that people growing up in the 80s are stunned to find out the rest of us think the music of that era was inferior.
Let's face it, A LOT of it was boring, derivative, schmaltzy, or just plain terrible. One difference is music used to be meaningful, or at least interesting and fun to listen to - from the 80s on for the most part it's just something to have on in the background.
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I have to give the 80s rock its due - not that it was all the prior decades' creative outburst was, but it was darned good - this from a creaky old boomer, so onward! ;)
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I have to give the 80s rock its due - not that it was all the prior decades' creative outburst was, but it was darned good - this from a creaky old boomer, so onward! ;)
The '70s had the best AOR stuff. That was when most album rock bands and singers were in their primes. I'll give that to the Me Decade. It had great AM tunes too. That aside, the '80s had the best music as a whole. You could find great songs in all or most genres. Even Millennial kids admit this. Congrats for not being an old codger. ;)
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I don’t see how you can lump 60s music together. It started with Do Wop, then Surf music, the British Invasion, Stax/Volt and Atlantic Soul, Motown Soul, the San Francisco sound, acid rock, Dylan, blues rock, horn bands such as Blood, Sweat, and Tears, Chicago, Ten Wheel Drive, Mike Oldfield, the mixing in of country from Graham Parsons, music from musicals such as Hair and Jesus Christ, Superstar, and ended with the beginnings of AOR and Southern Rock from the Allman Brothers.
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The '70s had the best AOR stuff. That was when most album rock bands and singers were in their primes. I'll give that to the Me Decade. It had great AM tunes too. That aside, the '80s had the best music as a whole. You could find great songs in all or most genres. Even Millennial kids admit this. Congrats for not being an old codger. ;)
Lol, when I play music trivia games I tend to grade out almost as well on 80s as I do 70s, so...I'm quasi-young at heart... ::)
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I don’t see how you can lump 60s music together. It started with Do Wop, then Surf music, the British Invasion, Stax/Volt and Atlantic Soul, Motown Soul, the San Francisco sound, acid rock, Dylan, blues rock, horn bands such as Blood, Sweat, and Tears, Chicago, Ten Wheel Drive, Mike Oldfield, the mixing in of country from Graham Parsons, music from musicals such as Hair and Jesus Christ, Superstar, and ended with the beginnings of AOR and Southern Rock from the Allman Brothers.
You nailed that spectrum shift Juan, of course the 60s began with some old time blues, still had leftovers like big band style standards singers as well as a strong folk component - then you toss in bubblegum, psychedelic, and so on - we really had two decades where music was more varied than it would be again and in constant flux. Pretty great times to be near a radio, AM or FM... :)
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I don’t see how you can lump 60s music together. It started with Do Wop, then Surf music, the British Invasion, Stax/Volt and Atlantic Soul, Motown Soul, the San Francisco sound, acid rock, Dylan, blues rock, horn bands such as Blood, Sweat, and Tears, Chicago, Ten Wheel Drive, Mike Oldfield, the mixing in of country from Graham Parsons, music from musicals such as Hair and Jesus Christ, Superstar, and ended with the beginnings of AOR and Southern Rock from the Allman Brothers.
I don't know. Maybe it's because it all came out in the same decade. ;)
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Lol, when I play music trivia games I tend to grade out almost as well on 80s as I do 70s, so...I'm quasi-young at heart... ::)
I like varied decades and varied genres. You can make a case for any era from the '60s to the '90s. We likely can all agree that music went south at some point after 9/11. Even those darn Millennial kids agree.
If you really want to depress yourself, look at the current Top Forty. Then compare it to any Top Forty from the '60s to the '00s. Heck, you could compare it to charts from the early '10s or the mid '10s for that matter. That "South Park" fart music bit, about today's pop music, isn't too far off the mark.
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The '70s had the best AOR stuff. That was when most album rock bands and singers were in their primes. I'll give that to the Me Decade. It had great AM tunes too. That aside, the '80s had the best music as a whole. You could find great songs in all or most genres. Even Millennial kids admit this. Congrats for not being an old codger. ;)
Yes, you can find great songs in all or most genres in the 80s. But not a lot. Not compared to earlier decades - just re-read Juan's post re the 60s. The 80's isn't even in the conversation compared to that.
I will confess to preferring albums to singles, rock to pop. Maybe that's the difference. I didn't realize that makes me old and you young, seems like an odd way of measuring that.
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... We likely can all agree that music went south at some point after 9/11...
I want to say to rise of disco, perhaps 1977 when the Village People came on the scene and Lynyrd Skynyrd left.
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Yes, you can find great songs in all or most genres in the 80s. But not a lot. Not compared to earlier decades - just re-read Juan's post re the 60s. The 80's isn't even in the conversation compared to that.
I will confess to preferring albums to singles, rock to pop. Maybe that's the difference. I didn't realize that makes me old and you young, seems like an odd way of measuring that.
You can find *many* great songs in the '80s! Are you kidding me? Older people *and* younger people often say that was the best decade for music. I absolutely agree with them.
Maybe you just have bad taste. That's fine. Some guys like black licorice and prunes more than things that actually taste good. It's a free country, and I'm free to listen to the best decade of music ever, the '80s (not even freaking close).
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I want to say to rise of disco, perhaps 1977 when the Village People came on the scene and Lynyrd Skynyrd left.
I was all of 3 then (yikes), and I'm going through a midlife crisis now (double yikes)! Next, you'll tell me that music died with Buddy Holly.
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I like varied decades and varied genres. You can make a case for any era from the '60s to the '90s. We likely can all agree that music went south at some point after 9/11. Even those darn Millennial kids agree.
If you really want to depress yourself, look at the current Top Forty. Then compare it to any Top Forty from the '60s to the '00s. Heck, you could compare it to charts from the early '10s or the mid '10s for that matter. That "South Park" fart music bit, about today's pop music, isn't too far off the mark.
You can blame downloading and now streaming for most of it.
Limited sales means record companies can't throw money at 10 bands in hopes that one hits.
Bands don't have a big enough advance to screw around in a castle for 4 months recording an album, either.
There is some very good music out there but you can't find it because every bedroom band has the same ability to get their crap out there.
People are simple - if you give them too much choice they devalue all of it equally.
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You can find *many* great songs in the '80s! Are you kidding me? Older people *and* younger people often say that was the best decade for music. I absolutely agree with them.
Maybe you just have bad taste. That's fine. Some guys like black licorice and prunes more than things that actually taste good. It's a free country, and I'm free to listen to the best decade of music ever, the '80s (not even freaking close).
I think we could find ''older people *and* younger people'' with all sorts of different opinions. So what if you know people with whatever opinion they have.
Look how fat ''most people'' are. Look at the elected officials ''most people'' give us. Look at all the crap ''most people'' buy. I'm quite fine to be in disagreement with ''most people'' on any number of issues.
One of us has lived through both the 70s and the 80s, and listened to the music of the day at the time - and one of us hasn't. Which is in a better position to discern?
This is beginning to remind me of people who never heard of Wilt Chamberlin, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, or Oscar Robertson insisting Michael Jordan (or worse, LeBron James) is the GOAT - simply because those are the best players they grew up with. Tell me, have you heard of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin? Because I'll take them vs Michael Jackson, Blondie, and The Police any time.
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I like varied decades and varied genres. You can make a case for any era from the '60s to the '90s. We likely can all agree that music went south at some point after 9/11. Even those darn Millennial kids agree.
I think it got AI'd basically - all programmed from top to bass. :'(
If you really want to depress yourself, look at the current Top Forty. Then compare it to any Top Forty from the '60s to the '00s. Heck, you could compare it to charts from the early '10s or the mid '10s for that matter. That "South Park" fart music bit, about today's pop music, isn't too far off the mark.
I just can't go there.
Miles Davis saves me.
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You can blame downloading and now streaming for most of it.
Limited sales means record companies can't throw money at 10 bands in hopes that one hits.
Bands don't have a big enough advance to screw around in a castle for 4 months recording an album, either.
There is some very good music out there but you can't find it because every bedroom band has the same ability to get their crap out there.
People are simple - if you give them too much choice they devalue all of it equally.
Funny way to say that technology killed the radio star.
And Joe Bonamassa is a modern dinosaur, bummer. :-\
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I think we could find ''older people *and* younger people'' with all sorts of different opinions. So what if you know people with whatever opinion they have.
Look how fat ''most people'' are. Look at the elected officials ''most people'' give us. Look at all the crap ''most people'' buy. I'm quite fine to be in disagreement with ''most people'' on any number of issues.
One of us has lived through both the 70s and the 80s, and listened to the music of the day at the time - and one of us hasn't. Which is in a better position to discern?
Does one have to have lived through the turn of the century to discern Mark Twain ?
This is beginning to remind me of people who never heard of Wilt Chamberlin, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, or Oscar Robertson insisting Michael Jordan (or worse, LeBron James) is the GOAT - simply because those are the best players they grew up with.
So statistics either count or?
Tell me, have you heard of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin? Because I'll take them vs Michael Jackson, Blondie, and The Police any time.
And where would you rank Quicksilver Messenger Service or Grand Funk Railroad?
Each decade has its signature artists who perhaps don't make the hall of fame, yes?
For every Tom Brady there's a Dan Fouts, which basically means that stats aside context can shade in for accomplishment.
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Yes, you can find great songs in all or most genres in the 80s. But not a lot. Not compared to earlier decades - just re-read Juan's post re the 60s. The 80's isn't even in the conversation compared to that.
Does it have to be?
Let's agree it's maybe the third place decade.
Good thing our parents aren't alive to Glen Miller us to submission, eh?
I will confess to preferring albums to singles, rock to pop. Maybe that's the difference. I didn't realize that makes me old and you young, seems like an odd way of measuring that.
Oh I dunno, it's like comparing FM to Magnatune.
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Good thing our parents aren't alive to Glen Miller us to submission, eh?
Be sure to watch to the end for the stupendous Nicholas Brothers who put Michael Jackson to shame.
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BRILLIANT!
...see...the old stuff was the good stuff...
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You can blame downloading and now streaming for most of it.
Limited sales means record companies can't throw money at 10 bands in hopes that one hits.
Bands don't have a big enough advance to screw around in a castle for 4 months recording an album, either.
There is some very good music out there but you can't find it because every bedroom band has the same ability to get their crap out there.
People are simple - if you give them too much choice they devalue all of it equally.
There's no doubt that new platforms and new technologies play roles. The whole distribution system changed since the glory days. You don't find many Beatles in Hamburg. You don't find many on YouTube, either.
Producers and studios play roles too. Just a few people are responsible for much of the Top Forty now. That's one reason why it all sounds the same. I want my MTV....from 1985.
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I think we could find ''older people *and* younger people'' with all sorts of different opinions. So what if you know people with whatever opinion they have.
Look how fat ''most people'' are. Look at the elected officials ''most people'' give us. Look at all the crap ''most people'' buy. I'm quite fine to be in disagreement with ''most people'' on any number of issues.
One of us has lived through both the 70s and the 80s, and listened to the music of the day at the time - and one of us hasn't. Which is in a better position to discern?
This is beginning to remind me of people who never heard of Wilt Chamberlin, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, or Oscar Robertson insisting Michael Jordan (or worse, LeBron James) is the GOAT - simply because those are the best players they grew up with. Tell me, have you heard of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin? Because I'll take them vs Michael Jackson, Blondie, and The Police any time.
I was here in the '70s. I wasn't here in the '40s. Yet, I can play Frank Sinatra songs. I can listen to Dorsey and Miller. It's great music. I don't have to be in my eighties to appreciate it. None of us are contemporaries of Bach and Beethoven. You don't have to be a vampire to hear their symphonies.
I used hyperbole in my other posts to match the hyperbole in your posts. On a rational and serious note, it all comes down to personal taste. These arguments are like discussions on how chocolate beats vanilla. We all have different favorites. I admitted that the '70s probably had the best AOR songs. That decade likely had the best bands and best singers in the hard rock genre. That aside, it's no coincidence that people think that the best music came out in the '80s. The whole world doesn't live in an album rock ghetto that's stuck in the past.
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I think it got AI'd basically - all programmed from top to bass. :'(
I just can't go there.
Miles Davis saves me.
It's all manufactured and processed by the same Swedish guys. Sadly, I'm not talking about the male members of ABBA. The musical studios are like Nabisco factories. There's less cookie-cutting in the latter, though.
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... That aside, it's no coincidence that people think that the best music came out in the '80s...
... the '80s had the best music as a whole. You could find great songs in all or most genres. Even Millennial kids admit this...
... Even those darn Millennial kids agree...
Well, I guess if the millennials all agree it must be so - they're just so smart when it comes to everything else.
You're Martha Quinn, aren't you
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... So statistics either count or?...
If it comes to stats, how does 100 points in a single game stack up (Wilt)?
118 games of 50 points or more
Most games in one season 50 or more points (45)
Most consecutive games 50 or more points (7)
Career average 30 points per game, 22.9 rebounds per game
Team stats? How about Bill Russell's 11 championships in his 13 year career
If it's stats you want, it seems like Michael and LeBron have a ways to go - but we should probably ask the millennials.
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Does one have to have lived through the turn of the century to discern Mark Twain ?...
If there were people around who had read both Bret Harte and Mark Twain during the time they were writing, I would be more interested in what they had to say when comparing the two than I would random people on the street expressing their opinions on them now.
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Well, I guess if the millennials all agree it must be so - they're just so smart when it comes to everything else.
You make me feel like one. Thanks for that, angry grandpa.
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Plus, Wilt never fouled out of an NBA game.
And two rules were changed because of him. The lane used to be six-feet wide, and he would straddle it. He could this block the lane without being called for a three second violation. The lane was widened. It used to be legal to throw the ball in over the backboard. Kansas would do that, and Wilt would jump up and dunk. One of the opposing schools put chicken wire above the backboard ( or maybe just threatened to) to stop it, and the NCAA changed the rule.
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Be sure to watch to the end for the stupendous Nicholas Brothers who put Michael Jackson to shame.
The first Moonwalk starts at 2:03, as Bill Bailey exits off the stage.
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You make me feel like one. Thanks for that, angry grandpa.
Surprisingly enough, a person doesn't have to be old to discern quality. Thinking they know more than they do is a trait of youth though.
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Surprisingly enough, a person doesn't have to be old to discern quality. Thinking they know more than they do is a trait of youth though.
Youth have no monopoly on that trait. In fact, it's likely inherited.
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If it comes to stats, how does 100 points in a single game stack up (Wilt)?
118 games of 50 points or more
Most games in one season 50 or more points (45)
Most consecutive games 50 or more points (7)
Career average 30 points per game, 22.9 rebounds per game
Mmm hmm!
And he had a far more impressive stat off the court:
https://thebiglead.com/2012/08/23/wilt-chamberlain-had-a-lot-of-sex-according-to-math/
Wilt Chamberlain once claimed to have had sex with 20,000 women – a very exact number that was probably accurate at that time.
One perhaps fails to consider whether this was wrapped or unwrapped sex and if the latter how lucky was the Stilt not to end up like Magic?
Team stats? How about Bill Russell's 11 championships in his 13 year career
If it's stats you want, it seems like Michael and LeBron have a ways to go - but we should probably ask the millennials.
Heh, so, this is why I mentioned Foutsy in the same breath as Brady - both great players but only one GOAT.
In sports that's an easier grade to give out than in music. And it has actual numerics to assist in the grading.
Yeah I know we could come up with something for music like #1 hits, or gold albums, or time on the Billboard top 40, but music is so subjective that the only thing we'd be measuring is popularity, not quality of output. So the subjectivity of this ranking leaves us with only opinions where music is concerned, imo. Maybe you have some thoughts on how decades can be graded?
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If there were people around who had read both Bret Harte and Mark Twain during the time they were writing, I would be more interested in what they had to say when comparing the two than I would random people on the street expressing their opinions on them now.
So then perhaps your musical ranking of decades grades via written reviews at the time, Billboard or Rolling Stone, or?
Really where we are on any of this is just what folks think now, an imperfect mechanism, but kind of the point where subjectivity is concerned.
Which is why I put something as "off the current milieu" as Nat King Cole up. Great song, fine writing, a known classic in its day, but I wager any millennial would bypass it swiftly.
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Surprisingly enough, a person doesn't have to be old to discern quality. Thinking they know more than they do is a trait of youth though.
But quality is totally subjective where music is concerned - a person can be as taken with U2 as they can Garth Brooks, but have diametrically opposed feelings on both. That neither makes U2 less great nor Garth Brooks more great.
It's a tomato/tomahto analogy.
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Youth have no monopoly on that trait. In fact, it's likely inherited.
;D ;D ;D
Well played.
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... So the subjectivity of this ranking leaves us with only opinions where music is concerned, imo. Maybe you have some thoughts on how decades can be graded?
Not really, I think folks should decide for themselves and listen to what they like
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Not really, I think folks should decide for themselves and listen to what they like
Ok, so it seemed like you weren't cool with that, did I misread you?
I like this thread btw, it has "possibilities"... :)
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;D ;D ;D
Well played.
It's like that old joke from PB's era. Craziness is hereditary; you get it from your kids.
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A nod to Nucks, here are three of my favs from the 80s
Note: A young RuPaul at 2:05
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A nod to Nucks, here are three of my favs from the 80s
Note: A young RuPaul at 2:05
I would have chosen the Cars, the Police, Depeche Mode, and U2. I get why you hate the '80s now. ;)
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I would have chosen the Cars, the Police, Depeche Mode, and U2...
I know. Don't forget The Smiths. And those bands would have been completely overshadowed if they'd come around a decade earlier.
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I know. Don't forget The Smiths. And those bands would have been completely overshadowed if they'd come around a decade earlier.
I doubt it. Blondie and Talking Heads could tell you that.
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How about something from the 20s - 2018 style
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I know. Don't forget The Smiths. And those bands would have been completely overshadowed if they'd come around a decade earlier.
Dire Straits...REM...AC/DC - that'll work!
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So what is good music? Each answer is personal. I tried to stay current with music over the decades. I got lost in the 90's. In my city, we have a few college FM stations that plays good music. I am currently listening to live from "Mountain Stage" on a FM station.
One FM station has a show called LAND OF THE LOST. On the final Friday of each month lost music from the 80's is played. A mix of cult classics, new wave anthems, punk and alternative music is played for 4 hours. I enjoy LAND OF THE LOST. Once a year, 80's music from the famous John Peel Sessions of the BBC is played. At one time, I was a huge fan of John Peel. After his death, stories of his unusual sexual history came out.
WHY WHY WHY?
I can no longer watch or listen to Michael Jackson and music from the John Peel Sessions, without regret.
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So what is good music? Each answer is personal. I tried to stay current with music over the decades. I got lost in the 90's. In my city, we have a few college FM stations that plays good music. I am currently listening to live from "Mountain Stage" on a FM station.
One FM station has a show called LAND OF THE LOST. On the final Friday of each month lost music from the 80's is played. A mix of cult classics, new wave anthems, punk and alternative music is played for 4 hours. I enjoy LAND OF THE LOST. Once a year, 80's music from the famous John Peel Sessions of the BBC is played. At one time, I was a huge fan of John Peel. After his death, stories of his unusual sexual history came out.
WHY WHY WHY?
I can no longer watch or listen to Michael Jackson and music from the John Peel Sessions, without regret.
I had no idea about John Peel. After the sordid revelations about Bill Cosby and Michael Jackson, it's tough being an '80s kid. What's next? Will Eddie Murphy turn out to be the third Hillside Strangler?
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I had no idea about John Peel. After the sordid revelations about Bill Cosby and Michael Jackson, it's tough being an '80s kid. What's next? Will Eddie Murphy turn out to be the third Hillside Strangler?
Eddie Van had his sordid moments too...
https://people.com/music/eddie-van-halen-valerie-bertinelli-early-days-brown-mms-new-book/
She was once America's sweetheart, jeeez... :o
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I had no idea about John Peel. After the sordid revelations about Bill Cosby and Michael Jackson, it's tough being an '80s kid. What's next? Will Eddie Murphy turn out to be the third Hillside Strangler?
@Nucky Nolan - 80s into the year, 2017. Let us not forget Harvey Weinstein, co-founder of Miramax Films and The Weinstein Company.
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Eddie Van had his sordid moments too...
https://people.com/music/eddie-van-halen-valerie-bertinelli-early-days-brown-mms-new-book/
She was once America's sweetheart, jeeez... :o
He's a hot mess now. Who knew that David Lee Roth would become the normal one?
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@Nucky Nolan - 80s into the year, 2017. Let us not forget Harvey Weinstein, co-founder of Miramax Films and The Weinstein Company.
I'd like to forget him. Unlike the other celebrities, he always was a well known sleaze.
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Susanna Hoffs was pretty hot. Maybe still is
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He's a hot mess now. Who knew that David Lee Roth would become the normal one?
I have no idea what went on there, possible ailen walkin? ::)
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I have no idea what went on there, possible ailen walkin? ::)
Occam's Razor was next to the lines on the mirror. They weren't lines of brown M&Ms.
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Occam's Razor was next to the lines on the mirror. They weren't lines of brown M&Ms.
Oh that is priceless!
You distill better than a Kentucky moonshiner. ;D
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Oh that is priceless!
You distill better than a Kentucky moonshiner. ;D
I'll bottle and sell it. Watch out for sarcasm poisoning.
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Susanna Hoffs was pretty hot. Maybe still is
Funny thing about that video is that it had Muammar Al Gaddafi in it, He and my FIL were friends, FIL has letters from him, no shit, funny story how they met but I can't tell it because it is personnal to FIL
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I'll bottle and sell it. Watch out for sarcasm poisoning.
Quick tip - always toss out the "heads"... ;D
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Susanna Hoffs was pretty hot. Maybe still is
Darned right she is!
These two albums of covers she did with Matthew Sweet - freaking AWESOME!
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Quick tip - always toss out the "heads"... ;D
Thanks for the tip. I've seen cannibal recipes advising the same.
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Thanks for the tip. I've seen cannibal recipes advising the same.
;D ;D ;D
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