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ShayP

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3885 on: June 11, 2021, 07:27:18 AM »
Then again, poor Shay might end up like this.

“...Bushnell’s mind kept wandering back to his true love: singing animatronic animals...”

Chuck E. Cheese was the fever dream of one Bay Area tech executive

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Oh Dear Lord.  LOL!

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3886 on: June 11, 2021, 07:28:38 AM »
Could it be a portal?

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Reminds me of my ex.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3887 on: June 11, 2021, 07:29:44 AM »
Good morning ShayP  :o  ::)  :-X  8)

Good morning! @FISH  How about this thread!?  LOL!

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3888 on: June 11, 2021, 07:30:43 AM »
Good morning! @FISH  How about this thread!?  LOL!
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3889 on: June 11, 2021, 07:41:09 AM »
Plus we haven't even got into Idi Amin nor Dietrich's son.
Bring on the chimps with machine guns!

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3890 on: June 11, 2021, 07:53:37 AM »
Thanks. @Bobs Your Uncle  No I haven't.  I'm not very familiar with that but I will look into it.  The more options the better.

@ShayP if you have an IOS device a good binaural beat App is called Brainwave by Bonzai Labs. But @Bart Ell will tell you it’s nonsense.
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3891 on: June 11, 2021, 07:56:50 AM »
@ShayP if you have an IOS device a good binaural beat App is called Brainwave by Bonzai Labs. But @Bart Ell will tell you it’s nonsense.

Nonsense is a strong term but it definitely is not Dietrich.
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« Reply #3892 on: June 11, 2021, 08:06:28 AM »
@ShayP if you have an IOS device a good binaural beat App is called Brainwave by Bonzai Labs. But @Bart Ell will tell you it’s nonsense.

The placebo effect is not nonsense.
Believing they alter brainwaves is the nonsense part.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3893 on: June 11, 2021, 10:52:32 AM »
The placebo effect is not nonsense.
Believing they alter brainwaves is the nonsense part.
Does a placebo work with one of these?
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3894 on: June 11, 2021, 11:15:29 AM »
The placebo effect is not nonsense.
Believing they alter brainwaves is the nonsense part.

I have used my brainwave app binaural beats successfully to stay alert doing mundane computer tasks reviewing thousands of vulnerabilities and recommended responses where attention to detail was mandatory and the review/editing process would take several full days and under pretty extreme time pressure. When I started I couldn’t do it for more than about 20 minutes straight without taking a break. Listening to classical music, especially Bach and Vivaldi helped somewhat. When I started using the app I was able to go 4 hours straight with no errors. Probably could have gone longer but always scheduled a lunch break to decompress.

Having to wear headphones or earbuds can make it a bit cumbersome for sleeping so I don’t use it much now that I am retired because my sleep schedule doesn’t really matter much. But if the sleep deficit builds up over time, I will use them with a lavender inhaler to catch some good zzz’s.

Placebo effect may explain some people’s success with them, but having used them for over 12 years in one form or another I am sold on them.

Back in the early 90’s when I was involved with astronaut training I proposed using eeg type monitoring integrated into the VR headsets. I felt you could slow down the training session if the trainee wasn’t alert. At the time NASA thought it was a good idea but seemed “too hard”.  I still have my suspicions that someone in those meetings went on to start NeuroSky.

Once I got familiar with binaural beats, and with the technology advances I formalized my ideas to not only do the monitoring during training but also during EVAs. During EVAs the astronauts wear a skull cap and it would have been very easy to integrate eeg sensors like NeuroSky uses. I submitted several unsolicited proposals with full backing from the aerospace company I was working for at the time. They gave me some seed funding and I built a basic prototype using the NeuroSky sensors and the gnaural open source programs. The idea was to use the binaural beats for several scenarios. Guide the astronauts back to an alert, attentive state, especially during training while on their way to MARS. That type of training needs to be accomplished while in route in order to provide a “just-in-time” training session for landing procedures. Another would be to help alter their circadian rhythm in order to have multiple shift coverage during long duration missions.

My proposals were all well received by the Engineering Directorate at JSC and they encouraged me to keep lobbying for funding. The astronaut office would never buy in. Monitoring vital signs like O2, heart rate and blood pressure seem to be fine, but sensing what happens in an astronaut’s head turned out to be a show stopper. I still believe my ideas had merit and could have been expanded to include pilots of regular and military aircraft.

Elon Musk has taken it a step further. No binaural beats for that dude. Just embed a chip.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3895 on: June 11, 2021, 11:24:17 AM »
Placebo effect may explain some people’s success with them, but having used them for over 12 years in one form or another I am sold on them.



Your brain would synchronize with any kind of stimulus in exactly the same way.
Monaural beats would be equally as effective and not require headphones.

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3896 on: June 11, 2021, 12:16:36 PM »
The Russians did research showing improved learning skills when listening to Baroque music (Bach, Vivaldi, etc.) performed at 60-bpm.
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3897 on: June 11, 2021, 12:50:13 PM »
@ShayP if you have an IOS device a good binaural beat App is called Brainwave by Bonzai Labs. But @Bart Ell will tell you it’s nonsense.

I had an iPod but it went kaput.  My phone is Android.  I plan on getting another iPod very soon so I will keep this in mind.  Thank you sir. :)  @GravitySucks

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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3898 on: June 11, 2021, 12:57:34 PM »
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Re: Whatever: The Open Lines Thread
« Reply #3899 on: June 11, 2021, 01:04:10 PM »
The Russians did research showing improved learning skills when listening to Baroque music (Bach, Vivaldi, etc.) performed at 60-bpm.

TigerLily figured that out on her own without the Russians help. Bach Brandenburg Concertos are especially good. Lively enough to engage the brain but don't interfere with the alpha waves. TigerLily recommended for study or sleep or simply enjoyment
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