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Title: College Football
Post by: trostol on August 23, 2018, 11:49:57 AM
oddly enough..more excited for the start of College season that Pro...this Saturday it begins!!!!
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Jackstar on August 23, 2018, 12:04:52 PM
oddly enough..more excited


Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on August 23, 2018, 01:35:48 PM
oddly enough..more excited for the start of College season that Pro...this Saturday it begins!!!!
I've been that way for years.  The College game is more exciting.  NFL, meh.  I get enough SJW protests elsewhere.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on August 23, 2018, 02:17:51 PM
Ohio State (currently 5th in rankings) head coach Urban Meyer suspended 3 games without pay for his handling of domestic violence allegations against a former assistant coach.

First three games are; home vs Oregon State, home vs Rutgers, and away at TCU (16)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on August 23, 2018, 04:11:17 PM
Meyer should have never hired Zach Smith at OSU, after Florida, let alone held onto him for so long at OSU.  Earle Bruce's grandson.  ::) He probably WOULD have been canned long ago, if not for that.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on August 24, 2018, 05:59:47 AM
Used to be a huge college football fan for many years up until the Penn St./Sandusky scandal.  Even though it shouldn't have put me off to the entire sport, it did for some reason.  I used to admire Joe Paterno and Penn St. was always my favorite team so I just quit following the game totally.  I got back into it gradually a few years later and last season I was pretty focused.  I'm pretty excited about the upcoming season.  In fact I just purchased Phil Steele's College Football Preview.  I recommend it to all fans.  :D
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: 2Lord2Grantham on August 24, 2018, 06:13:28 AM
College football fandom makes more sense to me. The passion is more real, the team represents your school, or your state. Cheering for paid mercenaries has always felt hollow to me.

GO BLUE
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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Kingfish on August 24, 2018, 06:17:34 AM
College football fandom makes more sense to me. The passion is more real, the team represents your school, or your state. Cheering for paid mercenaries has always felt hollow to me.


You mean the SEC?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: 2Lord2Grantham on August 24, 2018, 06:30:19 AM
You mean the SEC?

I loathe southern college football. Them and their pee soaked hedges can f right off.
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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Kingfish on August 24, 2018, 06:51:26 AM
I loathe southern college football. Them and their pee soaked hedges can f right off.
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Who knew mercenaries peed on hedges?
Title: East Mississippi Community College Football is Live now
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 30, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Enjoy

Title: Re: East Mississippi Community College Football is Live now
Post by: GravitySucks on August 30, 2018, 05:09:49 PM
Enjoy



A&M begins its #Legacy tonight under the guidance of Jimbo Fisher and you are watching this dribble.
Title: Re: East Mississippi Community College Football is Live now
Post by: Walks_At_Night on August 30, 2018, 05:16:05 PM
A&M begins its #Legacy tonight under the guidance of Jimbo Fisher and you are watching this dribble.

Suppose you are correct.  Moved on over to the Tech game

http://www.glvcsn.com/truman/
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: FightTheFuture on October 03, 2018, 11:03:26 AM
My beloved Buckeyes are killin` it, They have a real chance of going all the way to losing to Alabama in the playoffs!
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: MaxPower on October 03, 2018, 11:07:30 AM
Go Gators ... Although they probably are not going as far as I would like this year 8)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: 2Lord2Grantham on October 26, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
My beloved Buckeyes are killin` it, They have a real chance of going all the way to losing to Alabama in the playoffs!

Boiler up. Toot toot.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on October 27, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
Boiler up. Toot toot.

Who say that coming last week, Yikes. A lot of upsets this week
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Robert on December 16, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
I'd like to know why Rutgers-Princeton in 1869 is credited as the first intercollegiate football game, when a reliable source has Princeton (under its previous name) playing Princeton Theological Seminary earlier -- and no, they were not part of the same institution.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on July 30, 2021, 09:12:41 AM
It's Official Now...

University of Texas System Board of Regents Votes to Approve University of Texas at Austin Joining the Southeastern Conference

https://news.utexas.edu/2021/07/30/university-of-texas-system-board-of-regents-votes-to-approve-university-of-texas-at-austin-joining-the-southeastern-conference/
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 30, 2021, 10:31:13 AM
Georgia vs. Clempson- 34 days
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on July 30, 2021, 11:38:53 AM
Georgia vs. Clempson- 34 days
I’d love to see Dabo go down again but Georgia be Georgia.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on July 30, 2021, 12:21:51 PM
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on July 30, 2021, 07:23:56 PM
There has been A LOT of movement in and out of conferences these last few years.

Although time flies, has it been a little longer than a few years since that major reshuffling?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 01, 2021, 09:14:08 AM
A former TCU player gives his thoughts on the Gary Patterson firing:

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on November 01, 2021, 05:07:29 PM
A former TCU player gives his thoughts on the Gary Patterson firing:



He seemed a hardnosed coach who actually cared.  But he hurt the players' feelings.  Boo Hoo.  Bring him to Pitt.  Pittsburgh would love him.  Narduzzi sucks.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 26, 2021, 07:38:31 PM
All Times CST From the Top 25 playing on

Saturday, Nov. 27, 2021

   11:00 AM CST
    No. 1 Georgia at Georgia Tech | 11 a.m. | ABC
    No. 2 Ohio State at No. 5 Michigan | 11 a.m. | FOX
    Texas Tech at No. 8 Baylor | 11 a.m. | FS1   
    No. 18 Wake Forest at Boston College | 11 a.m. | ESPN2
    No. 24 Houston at UConn | 11 a.m. | CBSSN

      1:00 PM CST
    No. 22 UTSA at North Texas | 1 p.m. | ESPN+

       2:30 PM CST
    No. 3 Alabama at Auburn | 2:30 p.m. | CBS
    Oregon State at No. 11 Oregon | 2:30 p.m. | ESPN
    Penn State at No. 12 Michigan State | 2:30 p.m. | ABC

   3:00 PM CST
    No. 14 Wisconsin at Minnesota | 3 p.m. | FOX

   6:00 PM CST
    No. 15 Texas A&M at LSU | 6 p.m. | ESPN
 
   6:30 PM CST
    No. 10 Oklahoma at No. 7 Oklahoma State | 6:30 p.m. | ABC
    No. 23 Clemson at South Carolina | 6:30 p.m. | SEC Network
 
   7:00 PM CST
    No. 6 Notre Dame at Stanford | 7 p.m. | FOX
 
   9:30 PM CST 
    No. 13 BYU at USC |  9:30 p.m. | ESPN
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 29, 2021, 10:15:57 AM
College Football Power Rankings

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-power-rankings-cincinnati-michigan-step-up-big-ahead-of-conference-title-games/
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 29, 2021, 10:17:28 AM
Lincoln Riley to USC: Oklahoma taps Bob Stoops to serve as interim coach for bowl game, per reports

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/lincoln-riley-to-usc-oklahoma-taps-bob-stoops-to-serve-as-interim-coach-for-bowl-game-per-reports/
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 29, 2021, 11:16:28 AM
Lincoln Riley to USC: Oklahoma taps Bob Stoops to serve as interim coach for bowl game, per reports

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/lincoln-riley-to-usc-oklahoma-taps-bob-stoops-to-serve-as-interim-coach-for-bowl-game-per-reports/

Just last night I got a message from a friend who's a bigtime LSU fan telling me they were going to hire Riley.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 29, 2021, 11:17:50 AM
College Football Power Rankings

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-power-rankings-cincinnati-michigan-step-up-big-ahead-of-conference-title-games/
Cincinnati may be a stranger to the CFP, but it’s interesting that they just played Georgia in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta this year and almost beat them.  This season, they still have to get past Houston to probably lock-up a CFP slot.   You just never know when “college football chaos” is going to happen, though.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-vs-cincinnati-score-no-9-bulldogs-pull-off-comeback-win-over-no-8-bearcats-in-peach-bowl/live/
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 29, 2021, 05:18:11 PM
Number of reports that Brian Kelly is headed to LSU.  The cultural fit is hard to imagine, but the dollars must be good for Kelly.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on November 29, 2021, 06:04:30 PM
Thev whiners at Florida are already complaining that Billy Napier is a high integrity guy who they fear will not recruit thugs and criminals to the Gators.  It’s often said Florida fans have the arrogance of Notre Dame and the accomplishments of Wake Forest.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Rikki Gins on November 29, 2021, 06:12:36 PM
I miss trostol, the guy that started this thread.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 29, 2021, 06:23:11 PM
Number of reports that Brian Kelly is headed to LSU.  The cultural fit is hard to imagine, but the dollars must be good for Kelly.

Hard to believe LSU is hiring a 60 year old coach to rebuild a such a dismal program.   On the plus side, high probability ND will hire Luke Fickell to replace him.  Two years ago he said he'd leave UC for only two jobs ...OSU and ND.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 29, 2021, 06:32:25 PM
Hard to believe LSU is hiring a 60 year old coach to rebuild a such a dismal program.   On the plus side, high probability ND will hire Luke Fickell to replace him.  Two years ago he said he'd leave UC for only two jobs ...OSU and ND.
Yeah, I hate to see Luke leave UC.  Guess who is Ohio State’s first opponent next year?  Notre Dame.  Somewhat ironic that his first game as a Domer would be against his old college team.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see him beat the Buckeyes, especially if OSU looks as lost as they did last Saturday against TTUN.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 29, 2021, 06:38:31 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32748893/lsu-set-hire-notre-dame-brian-kelly-next-head-football-coach-sources-say
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 29, 2021, 11:36:49 PM
Just last night I got a message from a friend who's a bigtime LSU fan telling me they were going to hire Riley.

He was Played.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on November 29, 2021, 11:37:15 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32748893/lsu-set-hire-notre-dame-brian-kelly-next-head-football-coach-sources-say

$15M

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 30, 2021, 07:12:43 AM
$15M


Dayum.  Dem swamp boys want dem some Irish.

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 30, 2021, 09:14:44 AM
Latest is Kelly is trying to lure away ND defensive coordinator Marcus Freeman to be his DC at LSU.  Freeman is viewed by many as the top up and coming young coach in all college football. Kelly will be able to pay Freeman 3-4 times what he's making at ND, a school known for low pay for its assistants.  Some are suggesting ND name him as their new head coach, a risky move hiring a 35 year-old with no previous heading coaching experience for the job.  Whether ND is willing to admit it or not, they also must be taking into account Freeman is black.  If he tanks and ND fires him, they will face charges of racism.  They had to deal with this in the early 2000s when they fired Tyrone Willingham, and teams used this as a negative recruiting ploy against ND for several years. 

I think ND should hire a coach with previous head coaching experience and let him pick his staff.  My top three choices would be Fickell, NW's Pat Fitzgerald, or Vandy's (and former ND DC) Clark Lea.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 30, 2021, 10:18:34 AM
Latest is Kelly is trying to lure away ND defensive coordinator Marcus Freeman to be his DC at LSU.  Freeman is viewed by many as the top up and coming young coach in all college football. Kelly will be able to pay Freeman 3-4 times what he's making at ND, a school known for low pay for its assistants.  Some are suggesting ND name him as their new head coach, a risky move hiring a 35 year-old with no previous heading coaching experience for the job.  Whether ND is willing to admit it or not, they also must be taking into account Freeman is black.  If he tanks and ND fires him, they will face charges of racism.  They had to deal with this in the early 2000s when they fired Tyrone Willingham, and teams used this as a negative recruiting ploy against ND for several years. 

I think ND should hire a coach with previous head coaching experience and let him pick his staff.  My top three choices would be Fickell, NW's Pat Fitzgerald, or Vandy's (and former ND DC) Clark Lea.

I'm not one for wanting to make the Lesser Satan that is Notre Dame any better but they should also look strongly at Dave Clawson at Wake Forest.  Darn good coach.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on November 30, 2021, 10:37:14 AM
I'm not one for wanting to make the Lesser Satan that is Notre Dame any better but they should also look strongly at Dave Clawson at Wake Forest.  Darn good coach.

I agree with you.  Not only is he a good coach, but at Wake he's been coaching at a faith based school with high academic standards. His offenses are also fun to watch.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on December 06, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
Some good college football last weekend.  UC makes the CFP and the Baylor-OSU game came down to OSU missing a game winning TD by just a matter of inches, possibly costing them a CFP spot over UC.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on December 11, 2021, 08:19:41 PM
Back-to-back: Young gives Alabama consecutive Heisman wins

https://apnews.com/article/college-football-sports-football-alabama-ohio-b5ba4fc2300bbadf692cc1c0f5a0a8b6
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on January 04, 2022, 10:05:53 PM
With more bowl games than ever, the Pac-12 only managed to have 6 teams get in.

They went 0-5, with 1 game canceled due to covid.


The less prestigious, for now, Mountain West Conference went 5-1 - with a cancellation.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 05, 2022, 05:02:13 AM
I used to be a college football nut.  Mostly the 80's and early 90's.  Since then I haven't payed much attention since and I see there are 39 bowl games!  And the names...Cure Bowl, First Responder Bowl, Lending Tree bowl, Gasparilla Bowl, et al.  What the hell is a Gasparilla?

Take me back to when they had 16-18 bowl games and I'll be happy.  Take me back to that barn burner that was the 1989 Holiday Bowl.  Penn St. 50  BYU 39.

Or that boring 1983 Cotton Bowl.  SMU 7  Pitt 3.  Yawn.  How do you have Dan Marino on one side and Eric Dickerson on the other, and that's the score?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 05, 2022, 09:56:38 AM
I used to be a college football nut.  Mostly the 80's and early 90's.  Since then I haven't payed much attention since and I see there are 39 bowl games!  And the names...Cure Bowl, First Responder Bowl, Lending Tree bowl, Gasparilla Bowl, et al.  What the hell is a Gasparilla?

Take me back to when they had 16-18 bowl games and I'll be happy.  Take me back to that barn burner that was the 1989 Holiday Bowl.  Penn St. 50  BYU 39.

Or that boring 1983 Cotton Bowl.  SMU 7  Pitt 3.  Yawn.  How do you have Dan Marino on one side and Eric Dickerson on the other, and that's the score?

I had a similar conversation a few days ago. Years from now, how impressed are fans going to be seeing a "Cheez It Bowl Champion" banner hanging is some stadium?

The CFP system has relegated all but two bowls to NIT status.  I prefer the "every bowl for itself" process used prior to 1992.  Not only did that system allow for more imaginative pairings, it also made several bowls relevant in determining a national champion.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on January 05, 2022, 10:09:25 AM
I enjoyed the Rose Bowl.  It looked like the Buckeyes were going to get blown out by Utah in the first half, but the second half was spectacular.  Worth watching the first just to watch the second.  The performance put on by Jaxon Smith-Njigba and CJ Stroud was amazing to watch.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/32975431
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 05, 2022, 03:04:21 PM
I enjoyed the Rose Bowl.  It looked like the Buckeyes were going to get blown out by Utah in the first half, but the second half was spectacular.  Worth watching the first just to watch the second.  The performance put on by Jaxon Smith-Njigba and CJ Stroud was amazing to watch.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/32975431

Utah had the coolest Rose Bowl helmets I've ever seen.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on January 05, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Utah had the coolest Rose Bowl helmets I've ever seen.
Yeah, they were really psyched-up to play in their first Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 06, 2022, 01:39:01 PM
Utah had the coolest Rose Bowl helmets I've ever seen.

Those are pretty sweet.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 06, 2022, 01:46:02 PM
I had a similar conversation a few days ago. Years from now, how impressed are fans going to be seeing a "Cheez It Bowl Champion" banner hanging is some stadium?

Heh heh.  Yeah, I'd rather see a Liberty Bowl banner in the stadium than a Duke's Mayo Bowl one.  At least the winning coach had 5 gallons of mayo poured over him after the game.  Why isn't there a Gatorade Bowl?  ;)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 06, 2022, 01:51:18 PM
Ya know, it would not surprise me that with all the commercials focusing on prescription drugs that we will eventually see a bowl game named after one.

The Humira Bowl.  Or even do the poop test one.  The Cologuard Bowl.  The winning coach can give a sample.   :D
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on January 06, 2022, 02:21:17 PM
Ya know, it would not surprise me that with all the commercials focusing on prescription drugs that we will eventually see a bowl game named after one.

The Humira Bowl.  Or even do the poop test one.  The Cologuard Bowl.  The winning coach can give a sample.   :D
Heh, heh.  Here’s Dabo in his Cheez-It Bowl outfit.  ???

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I wonder what a Cologuard outfit would look like.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 06, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
Heh, heh.  Here’s Dabo in his Cheez-It Bowl outfit.  ???

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I wonder what a Cologuard outfit would look like.

LOL!  I don't know but I'm sure each head coach would get this on their locker room wall before the game.

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Ya know, for the after game ceremony.  ;)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on January 06, 2022, 02:55:34 PM
LOL!  I don't know but I'm sure each head coach would get this on their locker room wall before the game.

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Ya know, for the after game ceremony.  ;)
Ha!  I can see the game announcers.

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“Welcome to the Cologuard Bowl!”

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on January 07, 2022, 04:39:50 AM
Ha!  I can see the game announcers.

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“Welcome to the Cologuard Bowl!”

LMAO!!
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on January 10, 2022, 11:00:27 PM
I enjoyed the National Championship byline ... Battle between the walk-on QB vs the Heisman QB...

I watched the game on ESPN alternate channel with their "Skycast" presentation. That was better, for the most part than the traditional presentation. I enjoy watch the play from behind the QB. I wish that the NFL would wake up and give fans that viewing option.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on January 11, 2022, 04:36:15 AM
ESPN said it had 100-cameras for the game.
Go Dawgs.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on May 20, 2022, 08:14:33 PM
Good ol' College Football Fun... and the NIL...





Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on May 21, 2022, 05:02:49 AM
Matt Hayes is a long-time college football writer.  He is convinced that in a very few years we’ll see a mini-NFL with about 40 college teams creating their own rules and paying players directly.  In addition to NIL.  The rest will stay under the NCAA, as will all other sports for all schools.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on May 21, 2022, 06:30:58 AM
Matt Hayes is a long-time college football writer.  He is convinced that in a very few years we’ll see a mini-NFL with about 40 college teams creating their own rules and paying players directly.  In addition to NIL.  The rest will stay under the NCAA, as will all other sports for all schools.
Heh, with the current NIL, it’s almost already evolved to this arrangement.  The top 25-30 college football programs may as well just become some kind of NFL minor league setup.

College football is about the only remaining sport I truly enjoy.  I sincerely hope it doesn’t become just another screwed-up, beyond redemption version of it’s former self.  :(
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on May 21, 2022, 02:14:33 PM
I’m with you.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on July 07, 2022, 11:22:51 AM
Like dominoes USC and UCLA are jumping to the Big Ten (Big Ten, really? - it ain't exactly the SEC), now Arizona, Arizona St, Utah and Colorado are negotiating to join the Texas-less Big 12 (ugh!), and Washington and Oregon not wanting to be stranded are looking to join either the Big Ten or ACC (doesn't the A stand for Atlantic?).

That leaves Washington St, Oregon St, Cal, and Stanford pretty well screwed as the Pac-12 remainders no one wants.  What are they going to do, fill out the conference by adding Big Sky and Mountain West teams? 

Cal fairly recently spent $321 million on a new stadium, and have massive payments on the bonds with a huge balloon payment due at some point.  Guess they won't have Pac-12 TV money to make those payments.  Won't have much in the way of ticket sales either.  May as well tear it down and have Apple build a technology center or something.  The people responsible for the debt are all gone of course...
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on July 07, 2022, 11:27:02 AM
I once went to a college basketball game at St Mary's, just outside Oakland.

In their trophy case was memorabilia from their great football teams of 100 years ago, including one year they were undefeated and took the train to play the also undefeated West Point, and their hero's welcome upon their return after beating them. 

All in the dust bin of history.  Like the Pac-12.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 07, 2022, 12:25:58 PM
Why the big ten?  It pays even more than the SEC.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on July 07, 2022, 05:19:00 PM
I once went to a college basketball game at St Mary's, just outside Oakland.

In their trophy case was memorabilia from their great football teams of 100 years ago, including one year they were undefeated and took the train to play the also undefeated West Point, and their hero's welcome upon their return after beating them. 

All in the dust bin of history.  Like the Pac-12.

It's because of those days of train travel and no federal highway system the conferences we've known for years came into existence.   Everything was based on geographic proximity, relatively speaking, and travel.  Those conferences, at least for football and to a lesser extent, basketball, are dinosaurs. With the exception of the Univ of Hawaii, no D1 school is more than five air hours away from any other D1 school.  The money made will more than offset the cost of air travel.

Where things are going to get really strange is with the non-revenue sports.  Geographic proximity will have to be important if those sports are to remain viable, including maintaining travel partners. I think there is a good chance football, and maybe basketball, will form the "super conferences" people keep talking about outside NCAA control, with the non-revenue sports either disappearing or regrouped.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on July 07, 2022, 05:32:31 PM
Like dominoes USC and UCLA are jumping to the Big Ten (Big Ten, really? - it ain't exactly the SEC), now Arizona, Arizona St, Utah and Colorado are negotiating to join the Texas-less Big 12 (ugh!), and Washington and Oregon not wanting to be stranded are looking to join either the Big Ten or ACC (doesn't the A stand for Atlantic?).

That leaves Washington St, Oregon St, Cal, and Stanford pretty well screwed as the Pac-12 remainders no one wants.  What are they going to do, fill out the conference by adding Big Sky and Mountain West teams? 



Keep in mind, politicans can control where state schools go. Remember the governor of VA ordering the president of UVA to blacklist any new ACC school if VT was not admitted?  The governor of Oregon could tell Oregon they are not going anywhere without Ore St, same with the governor of Washington with UW and WSU. 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on July 08, 2022, 05:04:58 PM
I was I fan of how it was with regional rivalries and when one conference played another it seemed like a big deal. 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 11, 2022, 06:11:12 AM
Rumors are North Carolina, Virginia, Clempson (that’s how it’s pronounced) and Florida State are negotiating to join the SEC, and ESPN is trying to void the ACC Network tv contract.

Also, there is some Big 10 interest in Georgia Tech as Atlanta is a big market with a lot of high school football players.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on July 11, 2022, 07:34:15 AM
Rumors are North Carolina, Virginia, Clempson (that’s how it’s pronounced) and Florida State are negotiating to join the SEC, and ESPN is trying to void the ACC Network tv contract.

Also, there is some Big 10 interest in Georgia Tech as Atlanta is a big market with a lot of high school football players.

SEC not interested in Miami?  Great talent around Miami and a TV market bigger than any of the other four you mentioned. Also hard to believe the SEC would not want GT as well for the same reasons, Atlanta talent and TV market. I think Atlanta is a top ten TV market.

So you have to wonder how U of Florida would feel about the
addition of FSU and/or Miami, S Carolina about Clemson, UGa about GT, etc.  Not uncommon for a school in a given state, especially if it's the only school from that state in a conference, to vote against a new school joining from that state.  For example, Texas kept Houston out of the B12 for several years.  Houston did get into the B12 only after TX jumped to the SEC.  Similarly, WVU kept Marshall out of the Big East back in the day.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 11, 2022, 08:19:54 AM
Georgia brings the Atlanta market.  Tech fans and eyeballs are not numerous.  The school brings the SEC nothing but could help the Big 10. Miami is a big market, but football has not been a part of the city culture for a while.  If the new coach and their major donor get Miami up to speed, maybe so.

Clempson and North Carolina together would bring three markets that are about 30 in size plus solidify a couple more that are about 50.  That’s a lot of eyes.  Virginia brings the DC market, Richmond and Norfolk.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on July 11, 2022, 08:56:31 AM
Big 10 is gonna be the Big 24 by the time this lunacy is done.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 11, 2022, 09:16:41 AM
College football writer Matt Hayes reports the SEC presidents want to stick with 16- for now.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on July 11, 2022, 09:42:04 AM
Georgia brings the Atlanta market.  Tech fans and eyeballs are not numerous.  The school brings the SEC nothing but could help the Big 10. Miami is a big market, but football has not been a part of the city culture for a while.  If the new coach and their major donor get Miami up to speed, maybe so.

Clempson and North Carolina together would bring three markets that are about 30 in size plus solidify a couple more that are about 50.  That’s a lot of eyes.  Virginia brings the DC market, Richmond and Norfolk.

UGa getting the Atlanta market makes sense, but I believe Miami would be a plus for both talent and market. Yes, local support for Miami ebbs and wanes, but it's still a big market.

I lived in DC for a couple years, and there is no preeminent college football fan base there.  Maryland and USNA were probably the most popular, with smaller numbers pulling for PSU and VT.  Don't recall any vocal UVa fans, except for basketball. The most popular college sports team in DC was Georgetown basketball, while lacrosse was surprisingly popular as a non-revenue sport.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on July 11, 2022, 12:29:05 PM
Miami has a donor who has been trying to buy an elementary school that’s next to the university campus. He wants to build an on campus stadium at the site.  He’s offering to build a new, more modern school.  Miami now plays in the Dolphin’s stadium which is far across town from the University.  If he gets that done, folks think Miami football will be back.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 06, 2022, 01:13:50 PM
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on September 06, 2022, 03:25:29 PM
Man, I’m so glad college football is back! Some great entertainment this weekend. The FSU - LSU game was a hoot, unless you were an LSU fan. “Cajun” Kelly will blow apart with a stroke if that type of game happens again.

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 06, 2022, 03:58:47 PM
Man, I’m so glad college football is back! Some great entertainment this weekend. The FSU - LSU game was a hoot, unless you were an LSU fan. Cajun Kelly will blow apart with a stroke if that type of game happens again.

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I haven't seen any comments by Kelly about the game, but at Cincinnati and ND he was well known for throwing his players under a bus after a loss.  When they won, he'd say "we," when they lost he'd blame the players and say "they."

I noticed three Power 5 schools played at G5 stadiums last week.  One lost (VT lost at ODU) and the others (UNC and NCSt at App St and ECU, respectively) escaped with nail biting wins.  You seldom see P5 schools play at G5 schools for a reason.....too easy to get ambushed.

Best game I saw this weekend was Iowa's 7-3 home win over FCS South Dakota St.  Iowa scored their 7 points the hard way, a FG and two safeties.  These guys were doing some serious hitting, and outmanned SDakSt went toe-to-toe with Iowa.  Great game for those who like defense and playing field position.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on September 06, 2022, 04:29:37 PM
I was glad to see Georgia resume its tradition of dominating Pacific Coast Conference teams in the first game of the season.  Usually the PAC teams blamed the heat and humidity, but this time they played indoors.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on September 06, 2022, 04:38:10 PM
I was glad to see Georgia resume its tradition of dominating Pacific Coast Conference teams in the first game of the season.  Usually the PAC teams blamed the heat and humidity, but this time they played indoors.
That was an absolute beat down. Dawgs feasted on Ducks.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 06, 2022, 07:04:12 PM
I was glad to see Georgia resume its tradition of dominating Pacific Coast Conference teams in the first game of the season.  Usually the PAC teams blamed the heat and humidity, but this time they played indoors.

Interesting then, that they refuse to play them in bowl games.  Has there ever been a bowl game featuring the SEC vs the Pac-12?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on September 06, 2022, 07:12:14 PM
Interesting then, that they refuse to play them in bowl games.  Has there ever been a bowl game featuring the SEC vs the Pac-12?

Dec. 30, 1989, when Washington defeated Florida 34-7 in the Freedom Bowl in Anaheim, California.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on September 06, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
Interesting then, that they refuse to play them in bowl games.  Has there ever been a bowl game featuring the SEC vs the Pac-12?
There was this 2016 game, Alabama-Washington, Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl - CFP Semifinal that I vaguely recall.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400876107
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 06, 2022, 09:32:40 PM
Interesting then, that they refuse to play them in bowl games.  Has there ever been a bowl game featuring the SEC vs the Pac-12?

Sadly schools have very little voice when it comes to where or who they play in bowl games.  For the last thirty years or so, bowls have been little more than arranged marriages.  Conferences are contractually locked into bowls for finite periods and the schools themselves go where they are assigned within the conference hierarchy relative to the bowls.  ESPN, who owns many of the bowl games, also has a great deal to do with who goes where within the  conference affiliated bowls.  In addition, except in very rare circumstances, schools are not permitted to opt out of playing in a conference's affiliated bowls.

I miss the days of "every bowl for itself" where bowl committees actually had to work to convince schools to come play in their games.   You could actually have 6-7 bowl game have an impact on the eventual national championship.  Now, with the exception of three bowls designated as play-off games, all the other bowls are the college football equivalent of NIT basketball games.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ShayP on September 07, 2022, 09:51:08 AM
I miss the early 80's when there were 16 bowl games that weren't named after corporations.

Duke's Mayo Bowl, Guaranteed Rate Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, and Tony the Tiger (Sun) Bowl just seem odd to me.

At least the winning coach of the Duke's Mayo Bowl gets doused in loads of mayo. 

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 07, 2022, 10:26:13 AM
Sadly schools have very little voice when it comes to where or who they play in bowl games.  For the last thirty years or so, bowls have been little more than arranged marriages.  Conferences are contractually locked into bowls for finite periods and the schools themselves go where they are assigned within the conference hierarchy relative to the bowls.  ESPN, who owns many of the bowl games, also has a great deal to do with who goes where within the  conference affiliated bowls.  In addition, except in very rare circumstances, schools are not permitted to opt out of playing in a conference's affiliated bowls.

I miss the days of "every bowl for itself" where bowl committees actually had to work to convince schools to come play in their games.   You could actually have 6-7 bowl game have an impact on the eventual national championship.  Now, with the exception of three bowls designated as play-off games, all the other bowls are the college football equivalent of NIT basketball games.

I just wonder why with so many bowls, not one of them matches the SEC and Pac-12.

It almost has to be intentional.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 07, 2022, 10:55:43 AM
I just wonder why with so many bowls, not one of them matches the SEC and Pac-12.

It almost has to be intentional.

The Pac 12 is paired with the SEC in the Las Vegas Bowl in alternating years.  They can also play in the Gasparilla Bowl.

The reason there are not more match ups is geographically.  The lesser bowls are more regional, not many fans are going to travel from the West Coast to see their 8-4 team play a 7-5 team in places like Detriot, Nashville, or Charlotte.  Too many games on or closer to the West Coast.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 07, 2022, 07:20:03 PM
The Pac 12 is paired with the SEC in the Las Vegas Bowl in alternating years.  They can also play in the Gasparilla Bowl.

The reason there are not more match ups is geographically.  The lesser bowls are more regional, not many fans are going to travel from the West Coast to see their 8-4 team play a 7-5 team in places like Detriot, Nashville, or Charlotte.  Too many games on or closer to the West Coast.

It's something I've wondered about, and it makes sense.  It also speaks volumes about the popularity of these games.  I too would like to see a return to just a handful of meaningful bowl games.

I wonder how the conference realignments are going to affect the Pac-12.  It sure looks like it will be hollowed out if they lose USC and UCLA, then Oregon and Washington.  Who will be left that's any good?  What teams that are in the West and are decent will want to join?  And if the conferences are all going to be nationwide, what's the point (other than exposure and TV money)? 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 07, 2022, 08:41:36 PM
It's something I've wondered about, and it makes sense.  It also speaks volumes about the popularity of these games.  I too would like to see a return to just a handful of meaningful bowl games.

I wonder how the conference realignments are going to affect the Pac-12.  It sure looks like it will be hollowed out if they lose USC and UCLA, then Oregon and Washington.  Who will be left that's any good?  What teams that are in the West and are decent will want to join?  And if the conferences are all going to be nationwide, what's the point (other than exposure and TV money)?

The PAC 12 has backed itself into a corner when it comes to bringing in new schools.  The conference requires all members to be Tier 1 research universities, and schools like Boise and San Diego St don't qualify.  There are Tier 1 schools in the MWC (Colo St, New Mexico, UNLV, Utah St), but they don't offer much sports wise.  There are also some Big 12 schools who are Tier 1 (Baylor, K-St. Texas Tech), but I can't see them leaving the B12 for an unstable league like the P12.

I bet the B12 is spanking themselves for admitting the four mids (UCF, Cincinnati, Houston. BYU) they accepted last year. Had they known the PAC 12 was going to be in trouble after losing USC and UCLA, they could have grabbed established Power 5 programs like Utah, Arizona St, Washington, Oregon etc. BYU is a solid get, but even schools like Wash St, Cal, or Ore St would have been better than UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati.

I still don't believe both the Pac 12 and Big 12 can survive as P5 conferences.  I think there will be some type of merger, or even schools from both leagues joining together to start a new conference. The left overs could either join the MWC, join the WAC and revitalize it as a football conference, or start a new mid major league.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 07, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
The PAC 12 has backed itself into a corner when it comes to bringing in new schools.  The conference requires all members to be Tier 1 research universities, and schools like Boise and San Diego St don't qualify.  There are Tier 1 schools in the MWC (Colo St, New Mexico, UNLV, Utah St), but they don't offer much sports wise.  There are also some Big 12 schools who are Tier 1 (Baylor, K-St. Texas Tech), but I can't see them leaving the B12 for an unstable league like the P12.

I bet the B12 is spanking themselves for admitting the four mids (UCF, Cincinnati, Houston. BYU) they accepted last year. Had they known the PAC 12 was going to be in trouble after losing USC and UCLA, they could have grabbed established Power 5 programs like Utah, Arizona St, Washington, Oregon etc. BYU is a solid get, but even schools like Wash St, Cal, or Ore St would have been better than UCF, Houston, and Cincinnati.

I still don't believe both the Pac 12 and Big 12 can survive as P5 conferences.  I think there will be some type of merger, or even schools from both leagues joining together to start a new conference. The left overs could either join the MWC, join the WAC and revitalize it as a football conference, or start a new mid major league.

I will say going to see a game at San Jose St is a lot more fun than going to see Cal or Stanford.

I like the college atmosphere much more than the pros, and for me SJS is just a lot more fun.  Cal and Stanford:  too serious.

Come to think of it, those are the only college FB stadiums I've been to, and none of them have much of a parking lot so no real pre-game atmosphere either.  At Stanford I've always parked on campus on grass between trees and bushes, sort of a free for all and a zoo trying to find your car and get out.  In Berkeley it's free street parking but you have to walk a ways, at SJS its nearby side streets with mostly warehouses and ancient business parks, all closed on Sat.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 07, 2022, 09:18:59 PM
The PAC 12 has backed itself into a corner...

I think they're screwed.  A few years ago they had a dispute with, I think, Dish Network, and Dish customers couldn't get their games most or all season.  Just one example of the mismanagement.

Cal's horribly renovated stadium cost $321 million, and has a gigantic balloon payment due about 2030 or so. Good luck paying that off, even in the best case scenario.  The AD that engineered that left for Penn St, seems to me the Nittany Lions should be playing their home games here to help pay it off.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on September 08, 2022, 06:18:58 AM
Best game I saw this weekend was Iowa's 7-3 home win over FCS South Dakota St.  Iowa scored their 7 points the hard way, a FG and two safeties.  These guys were doing some serious hitting, and outmanned SDakSt went toe-to-toe with Iowa.  Great game for those who like defense and playing field position.
Heh, Iowa. I guess their offense just shows up to give their defense a rest and to keep the opposing team’s defense busy and from scoring on a turnover, with the occasional field goal to work their fans into a frenzy. ;)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on September 08, 2022, 06:31:51 AM


…I like the college atmosphere much more than the pros…
This. It just looks more exciting and fun, at least while watching it on TV. All the unique, many times goofy, traditions and the ties and commitment of the fans. Sure, you have some of that with the pros, but it’s just become way to “sanitized” and PC’ed for me.

This is the NFL I loved.

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And how entertaining Monday Night Football was with these two characters.

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on October 15, 2022, 09:06:10 AM
Week 7 Network TV Games of Interest (CDT)

11AM
IOWA @ UT ABC
PENN ST @ MICH FOX

230PM
OK ST @ TCU ABC
ALA @ TENN CBS
WIS @ MICH ST FOX

6:30PM
CLEM @ FL ST ABC
STAN @ ND NBC

7:00PM USC @ UTAH FOX
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on October 15, 2022, 09:58:24 PM
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/10/13/man-charged-with-murder/

https://darik.news/utah/usc-players-prepare-for-another-raucous-atmosphere-in-utah/730452.html
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on October 16, 2022, 12:55:16 AM
Week 7 Network TV Games of Interest (CDT)

11AM
IOWA @ UT ABC
PENN ST @ MICH FOX

230PM
OK ST @ TCU ABC
ALA @ TENN CBS
WIS @ MICH ST FOX

6:30PM
CLEM @ FL ST ABC
STAN @ ND NBC

7:00PM USC @ UTAH FOX
The game in Knoxville was fun. :) And Utah squeaks by USC.

“How No. 20 Utah beat No. 7 USC in a thriller, remained alive in the Pac-12 race“

https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/16/23398703/how-utah-football-beat-usc-remained-in-the-pac-12-race



Title: Re: College Football Murders
Post by: Up All Night on November 14, 2022, 11:20:35 AM
Virgina University shooting... 5 shot, 3 football players dead

Developing story...

Student suspect, former football player, in custody.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/universi...ect-custody-victims-idd-former-teammates

From the AP:
https://apnews.com/article/universi...updates-4cd9f0a64201d2460de887674fdfa02b
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on November 25, 2022, 04:46:38 PM
Where in the hell did FSU come up with those horrid uniforms?  They deserve to lose just for that.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on November 25, 2022, 05:56:41 PM
I take that back.  ABC has a couple of cameras that are not properly white balanced.  They show the Garnett uniforms as purple.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on November 26, 2022, 07:10:22 PM
I could have attended U of M but turned it down in favor of a much smaller school that was a better fit for me. Still, I am super stoked that the forces of good defeated The Great Satan today.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on November 27, 2022, 04:47:32 AM
With a USC win over Utah next week, will the playoff committee stop sucking Ohio State and leave them out of the playoffs?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 27, 2022, 05:54:59 AM
With a USC win over Utah next week, will the playoff committee stop sucking Ohio State and leave them out of the playoffs?
Yes. Unless, TCU loses big, if USC doesn’t lose. Georgia vs. OSU mostly likely would be a massacre of the Buckeyes. Nuts scattered far and wide.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: ItsOver on November 27, 2022, 05:56:11 AM
I take that back.  ABC has a couple of cameras that are not properly white balanced.  They show the Garnett uniforms as purple.
Ah, I wondered what you were talking about.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 02, 2022, 05:14:11 PM
I like chord substitutions, but the Star Spangled Banner before the Utah Southern Cal game was ridiculous
Title: Tragedy in Georgia
Post by: Up All Night on January 15, 2023, 08:39:24 PM
Title: Re: Tragedy in Georgia
Post by: Up All Night on March 01, 2023, 06:42:08 PM


UGA Jalen Carter left scene of fatal accident involving Devin Willock.

https://www.ajc.com/neNws/uga-star-jalen-carter-present-at-scene-of-fatal-crash/CZNFZLJK4ZBTVGKAWLOD6DANDE/

https://www.ajc.com/news/investigations/police-uga-football-staffer-drunk-traveling-104-mph-before-fatal-crash/UX2ULXH5C5E7DM32USJFEQOLWU/

Let's have charges filed against the establishment(s) that served people involved that were drunk and/ or under 21...
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on March 02, 2023, 03:43:34 AM
Matt Hayes has an interesting take on Georgia’s problem
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/jalen-carter-arrest-warrant-car-crash-georgia-off-field-problem/
Title: Re: Tragedy in Georgia
Post by: PB on September 01, 2023, 11:03:10 AM
Good Morning Berkeley (and Palo Alto and Dallas), welcome to the ACC.


https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/cal-stanford-smu-joining-acc-pac-12-conference-disintegrates-realignment/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/cal-stanford-smu-joining-acc-pac-12-conference-disintegrates-realignment/)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on September 01, 2023, 11:18:16 AM
The all coasts Conference
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 02, 2023, 05:41:54 PM
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Title: College Football on TV Guide
Post by: Up All Night on September 02, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
I use https://www.tvpassport.com/ to see who's playing on my local TV.

I like it because it lists the teams playing on the main display screen.
For other channel guide sites, I have to click on the sporting event (ie. "College Football") to then see who is playing...
 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 02, 2023, 06:29:59 PM
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I hope that's Harbaugh's grandfather.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 02, 2023, 06:41:03 PM
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 09, 2023, 11:26:56 AM
How to watch Alabama vs. Texas without Spectrum: Full list of live streams with ESPN and free trials

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/alabama-texas-espn-spectrum-live-streams-free-trials/eb130144e2f900163d27c38f
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 09, 2023, 12:28:13 PM
I have opted for the Fubo "Ultimate" Free 7 day trial. I'm watching CO-Nebraska in 4K on Fox now.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on September 09, 2023, 12:32:42 PM
I have opted for the Fubo "Ultimate" Free 7 day trial. I'm watching CO-Nebraska in 4K on Fox now.

Did you have to give them credit card information for the "free" trial?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 09, 2023, 02:25:51 PM
Night game, Auburn at Cal today.  I don't think they've ever played before - there are no Pac 12 - SEC bowl games.  Auburn fans all over the place, lots of out of state vehicles flying the team flag on the antennas.

Funny that 3 SEC teams are tigers.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 09, 2023, 08:28:47 PM
Did you have to give them credit card information for the "free" trial?
Yes, but they do not charge the card until after the trial week. I will cancel before the trial ends.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on September 09, 2023, 08:34:47 PM
Yes, but they do not charge the card until after the trial week. I will cancel before the trial ends.

I got email from Sirius XM for years after I cancelled my free trial for Art Bell's show.
Title: Michigan Soap Opera
Post by: Up All Night on September 11, 2023, 08:33:58 PM
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 11, 2023, 09:01:54 PM
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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on September 11, 2023, 09:07:55 PM
 ;D

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on October 27, 2023, 07:21:22 AM
In preparation for tomorrow's 90th edition of The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party in Jacksonville, my little island is now filled with college students drunk as five-eyed owls..  The girls use a marker to write their hotel and room number on their arms in hope that someone will eventually get them back. 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 01, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
Well, the very last Pac-12 football game ever to be played is over.  Washington is 13-0 heading into the playoffs, and the Nike Ducks get another loss.  Purple Reign now playing at Husky Stadium.

The best part of the breakup of the Pac-12 is neither the USC nor the Duck's shit fans will be coming to Berkeley any time soon.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 02, 2023, 05:04:47 AM
There's some speculation that Oregon State and Washington State will join the Mountain West and carry the Pacific Coast Conference name with them.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 02, 2023, 07:10:10 AM
There's some speculation that Oregon State and Washington State will join the Mountain West and carry the Pacific Coast Conference name with them.

Unless the Big East gives them a better deal.  8)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on December 03, 2023, 12:14:38 PM
The CBS Sports HQ crew previews the 2023-2024 college football playoffs.

CFP Matchups Preview: Is Alabama FAVORED over No. 1 Michigan in the Rose Bowl? | CBS Sports




Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 03, 2023, 12:45:24 PM
Lots of rather delicious ACC buut hurt around these parts after they threw an undefeated Florida State out of the playoff.  8)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 03, 2023, 10:44:11 PM
Lots of rather delicious ACC buut hurt around these parts after they threw an undefeated Florida State out of the playoff.  8)

I would love to see one of these teams who feel screwed-over turn down their bowl selection.  No comments necessary, just thank the committee and decline.

Also waiting for the day some coach, in any sport anywhere at any level, to simply pull their team off the field and into the locker room after getting a horrendous call.  ''Just not our day today, we concede''.  Let everyone else deal with the fallout.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 07, 2023, 09:13:01 PM
What does Florida State have to gain by playing?  They should have declined the offer in the first place.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/everyone-thinks-orange-bowl-between-florida-state-georgia-is-about-to-get-canceled-following-latest-announcement/ar-AA1laI3w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b1a2dcedb55a4306b9f013abe79d5209&ei=12 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/everyone-thinks-orange-bowl-between-florida-state-georgia-is-about-to-get-canceled-following-latest-announcement/ar-AA1laI3w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b1a2dcedb55a4306b9f013abe79d5209&ei=12)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 08, 2023, 05:09:11 AM
What does Florida State have to gain by playing?  They should have declined the offer in the first place.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/everyone-thinks-orange-bowl-between-florida-state-georgia-is-about-to-get-canceled-following-latest-announcement/ar-AA1laI3w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b1a2dcedb55a4306b9f013abe79d5209&ei=12 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/everyone-thinks-orange-bowl-between-florida-state-georgia-is-about-to-get-canceled-following-latest-announcement/ar-AA1laI3w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b1a2dcedb55a4306b9f013abe79d5209&ei=12)

Conferences have contractual tie-in with the CFP and various bowls, not sure a conference school can "decline" a bid without lawsuits flying in all directions.   Too much money involved for all concerned. 

It will be interesting to see how bowls evolve in the future what with opt outs and the transfer portal.  This year's Sun Bowl is a good example.   Since the regular season ended, Ore St has lost both 1st and 2nd team QBs to the portal, ND has lost five WRs and a TE. Who wants to pay to see third teamers and walk-ons play in meaningless exhibition games?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 08, 2023, 08:27:31 AM
Conferences have contractual tie-in with the CFP and various bowls, not sure a conference school can "decline" a bid without lawsuits flying in all directions.   Too much money involved for all concerned. 

It will be interesting to see how bowls evolve in the future what with opt outs and the transfer portal.  This year's Sun Bowl is a good example.   Since the regular season ended, Ore St has lost both 1st and 2nd team QBs to the portal, ND has lost five WRs and a TE. Who wants to pay to see third teamers and walk-ons play in meaningless exhibition games?

Expand the playoff team count a bit and all the Massengill Feminine Douche bowls go away. 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 08, 2023, 08:52:52 AM
Conferences have contractual tie-in with the CFP and various bowls, not sure a conference school can "decline" a bid without lawsuits flying in all directions.   Too much money involved for all concerned...

You're probably right.  What happens if the players decide they don't want to play?

I remember the year Mack Brown, coach of Texas, came on camera after their final game - Cal was 4th and Texas was 5th, both had won that week, Cal had one more to play, won that, and #4 was going to the Rose Bowl, which was traditionally Pac-12 vs Big 10 anyway.

This guy comes on and cries about Texas should be ahead of Cal, sob, whine, cry, ''who's Cal anyway?'', etc, and whatta-you-know several Big 12 coaches, among others, voting in the poll suddenly had Cal way down on their vote card, put Texas at #3, and Texas pulls ahead of Cal to #4 and goes to the Rose Bowl.

The AP refused to expose exactly which Big 12, Mack Brown cronies were the rats but did remove their poll from the BCS ranking.

Not only did Cal play their Holiday Bowl or whatever it was, they actually scheduled Texas a few years later.

Nothing like a little unchallenged fraud to turn a person sour on the whole thing.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 08, 2023, 09:08:15 AM
Get rid of scholarships, get back to student-athletes, end most of the bowls, no more playoffs. 

The fun has been taken out of just about every sport, including college football.  If I want to go to a game, actually enjoy college football and not some ultra serious pro-type event, I skip Cal and Stanford and go see San Jose State.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 08, 2023, 09:15:44 AM
There's absolutely no talk on Jacksonville or Atlanta sports talk radio about either team not playing.  There have been no NFL declarations except for one FSU wide receiver.  The two teams are competing for several recruits and winning the game would increase chances of signing the recruit.  Word is they're working out a huge NIL deal for quarterback Carson Beck to come back next year.  They're playing.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 08, 2023, 09:45:37 AM
Expand the playoff team count a bit and all the Massengill Feminine Douche bowls go away.

The CFP expands to 12 next year, but I wouldn't count on a decline in the number of bowl games. In fact, new bowl games in Cincinnati (Chili) and Chicago (Chicago) are in the works.  Additionally, a reduction in the number of bowl was predicted when the Bowl Coalition, Bowl Alliance, BCS, and first iteration of the CFP were all announced. When the Bowl Coalition was formed in 1992, there were only 18 bowls.  Now there are 43 bowls, including the CFP games.

While many, if not most, schools make money from bowls (if only through profit sharing within a conference), the biggest single benefit from coaches' point of view are the 15 additional practices bowl teams are allowed by the NCAA.  Most coaches, especially those outside the CFP, use those practices to get a head start on spring ball and the next season. Ironically, the teams who need more practice the most, those who had losing seasons, don't get those additional practices. Change the rules to allow all FBS schools 15 extra practices at the end of the season and the lure of minor bowls is less.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 08, 2023, 09:57:50 AM
You're probably right.  What happens if the players decide they don't want to play?

I remember the year Mack Brown, coach of Texas, came on camera after their final game - Cal was 4th and Texas was 5th, both had won that week, Cal had one more to play, won that, and #4 was going to the Rose Bowl, which was traditionally Pac-12 vs Big 10 anyway.

This guy comes on and cries about Texas should be ahead of Cal, sob, whine, cry, ''who's Cal anyway?'', etc, and whatta-you-know several Big 12 coaches, among others, voting in the poll suddenly had Cal way down on their vote card, put Texas at #3, and Texas pulls ahead of Cal to #4 and goes to the Rose Bowl.


The AP refused to expose exactly which Big 12, Mack Brown cronies were the rats but did remove their poll from the BCS ranking.

Not only did Cal play their Holiday Bowl or whatever it was, they actually scheduled Texas a few years later.

Nothing like a little unchallenged fraud to turn a person sour on the whole thing.

Yeah, that Cal/Texas brouhaha was in 94.  Cal wined about not going to the Rose Bowl, then laid an egg in the Holiday against a very mediocre Texas Tech team.  Samething happened in 98 to Kansas St, they were #1 when they got beat late in the Big12 championship game against A&M.  Despite finishing #3 in the rankings,  they got shuffled off to the then relatively new Alamo Bowl where they lost to an average Purdue.

The players who are graduating or transferring can opt out of playing, but I'd think significant pressure could be brought to bear on scholarship players who plan to return next year to play in the Orange.  Remember, athletic scholarships are renewed each year, they can be pulled for upcoming seasons.  There is precedent (of sorts) for players refusing to play in a bowl game, although it was back in the "every bowl for itself" days.  In 1990, players on a number of teams refused to play the Fiesta Bowl because the state of Arizona was branded racist for refusing to make MLK's birthday a state holiday. They wound up finally getting Louisvile, then independent and viewed as a minor mid-major, and 7-4 Alabama.  Black players at Ala complained, but were made to go.  Ala lost with many of their players half-assing it.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 08, 2023, 10:13:44 AM
Yeah, that Cal/Texas brouhaha was in 94.  Cal wined about not going to the Rose Bowl, then laid an egg in the Holiday against a very mediocre Texas Tech team.  Samething happened in 98 to Kansas St, they were #1 when they got beat late in the Big12 championship game against A&M.  Despite finishing #3 in the rankings,  they got shuffled to then relatively new Alamo Bowl where they lost to Purdue.

The one I'm thinking of was 2004 season, Jan 2005 Rose Bowl. 

Yeah, they felt cheated, because they were - it was fraud on the part of several voters - and didn't play well.  Texas coach Brown was the whiner, not Cal.

I haven't gone to a game since, other than a free ticket to see what they did to the stadium on the remodel (they ruined it, another reason not to return).  I still get emails trying to sell me tickets though.  They can keep them.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 08, 2023, 10:27:57 AM
The one I'm thinking of was 2004 season, Jan 2005 Rose Bowl. 

Yeah, they felt cheated, because they were - it was fraud on the part of several voters - and didn't play well.  Texas coach Brown was the whiner, not Cal.

I haven't gone to a game since, other than a free ticket to see what they did to the stadium on the remodel (they ruined it, another reason not to return).  I still get emails trying to sell me tickets though.  They can keep them.

Yes, my mistake.  I meant 04, not 94. I was at Cal's last game at Southern Miss, it had been postponed from earlier in the year due to a hurricane. Cal did not look impressive, with USM scoring what should have been the tying TD with little time left in the game. Cal blocked the PAT and returned for 2 pts to go up by three, then scored a garbage TD as time expired. Cal's QB was some guy named Rogers, don't know what became of him.

And yes, Cal whined after not being picked. Brown whined and advocated before the final poll/bowl selection.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 20, 2023, 01:59:32 AM
Florida St players opting out of their bowl game:

Defensive end Jared Verse

Defensive tackle Fabien Lovett

Running back Trey Benson

Receiver Johnny Wilson

Tight end Jaheim Bell


I wonder what the injury report will look like.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39149215/fsu-de-jared-verse-enter-nfl-draft-skip-orange-bowl (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39149215/fsu-de-jared-verse-enter-nfl-draft-skip-orange-bowl)
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 20, 2023, 03:51:19 AM
That makes me question the coaching staff.  Nobody has opted out for Georgia except for the players who entered the portal (sNoory snickers).
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 21, 2023, 12:25:15 AM
That makes me question the coaching staff...

They're going to have the flu.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on December 22, 2023, 10:02:48 PM
I am not supporter of FSU heck I don't even like them but this whole ordeal bothered me a lot. They were a Top 4 team right until the end and they kept winning so how do you lose a Top four spot. The reasoning of their QB is hurt and won't be able to compete against the other teams is such BS and goes against all spirit in sport. You advance by winning, punishing a team because one player is hurt even though it's a team sport is absurd plus we see back up players step up and win games when their team is viewed as underdogs all the time, it just happened on Monday Night Football with a backup in the Seahawks defeating a top seeded team in the Eagles. With this philosophy from the NCAA football you will never witness a back upsetting the world which is always a great story in sports.

This decision really soured me on the whole bowl system this year and haven't watched one snap because of it
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 22, 2023, 11:10:22 PM
I am not supporter of FSU heck I don't even like them but this whole ordeal bothered me a lot. They were a Top 4 team right until the end and they kept winning so how do you lose a Top four spot. The reasoning of their QB is hurt and won't be able to compete against the other teams is such BS and goes against all spirit in sport. You advance by winning, punishing a team because one player is hurt even though it's a team sport is absurd plus we see back up players step up and win games when their team is viewed as underdogs all the time, it just happened on Monday Night Football with a backup in the Seahawks defeating a top seeded team in the Eagles. With this philosophy from the NCAA football you will never witness a back upsetting the world which is always a great story in sports.

This decision really soured me on the whole bowl system this year and haven't watched one snap because of it

The teams are chosen by a committee.  Accountable to no one. 

They couldn't really keep undefeated Washington and Michigan out, and they wanted one-loss Texas and Alabama in for TV ratings, meaning dollars.  Simple as that.  It's corrupt and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 23, 2023, 12:08:16 AM
FSU might explode the ACC.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 23, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
If you watched the ACC Championship game, it was clear FSU wasn't one of the 4 best teams.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 23, 2023, 11:47:00 AM
FSU might explode the ACC.



As soon as the announcement was made that ESPN had fucked over FSU to ensure two B10 and two SEC teams made the playoffs, I told my football buddy that sealed the fate of the ACC. 
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 23, 2023, 04:05:26 PM
The trouble is where would FSU go?  The SEC has no use for them. I'm told the only additions the SEC would make are Notre Dame and North Carolina. Tallahassee is a small media market and Florida covers the state.  They're not a high academic university like the B1G favors.  So, unless the B1G makes an exception, that leaves only the Big 12.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 23, 2023, 04:49:34 PM
The trouble is where would FSU go?  The SEC has no use for them. I'm told the only additions the SEC would make are Notre Dame and North Carolina. Tallahassee is a small media market and Florida covers the state.  They're not a high academic university like the B1G favors.  So, unless the B1G makes an exception, that leaves only the Big 12.

They may have to wait a bit, but conference realignment seems far from over.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on December 23, 2023, 06:58:36 PM
The trouble is where would FSU go?  The SEC has no use for them. I'm told the only additions the SEC would make are Notre Dame and North Carolina. Tallahassee is a small media market and Florida covers the state.  They're not a high academic university like the B1G favors.  So, unless the B1G makes an exception, that leaves only the Big 12.

A fair question, but certainly one FSU must have considered and resolved to their satisfaction before even contemplating filing suit against the ACC.  They are not about to get into litigation like this without a safe landing place.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 29, 2023, 09:36:02 AM
Dang

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 30, 2023, 04:29:34 PM
What a whooping.  Largest margin of victory in bowl history.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on December 30, 2023, 04:32:25 PM
What a whooping.  Largest margin of victory in bowl history.

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on December 30, 2023, 06:13:17 PM
What a whooping.  Largest margin of victory in bowl history.

Hopefully the advertisers will ask for either refunds or credits for future games.  Ticket buying fans too.

Would have been fun to see no attempts at tackling, 4 kneel-downs on possessions.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on December 31, 2023, 03:30:08 AM
The last half of the fourth quarter Georgia was alternating two walk-on quarterbacks who had never taken a snap in a game.  That should have been the same as a kneel-down.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on December 31, 2023, 04:53:55 AM
FSU sacrificed themselves to be eaten by the opposition. Much like this guy. I never thought college football would be so deep

https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1740764891567231352
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on January 02, 2024, 09:33:43 AM
So both of the the media darlings elevated above Florida State lost.

Will the committee send them to the championship game anyway?
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on January 02, 2024, 09:59:16 AM
So both of the the media darlings elevated above Florida State lost.

Will the committee send them to the championship game anyway?

Waiting for a Saban presser lobbying for Ala to play in the championship game because "we're a darn good football team and deserve to play for the title.  We're Alabama."
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 08, 2024, 06:53:29 PM
U of M is going to cock this up somehow, aren't they?

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Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 08, 2024, 08:20:43 PM
Well they didn't. First clean National Championship since 1948. That was along time ago.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on January 10, 2024, 02:43:41 PM
Nick pulls an Art.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-alabama-coach-nick-saban-retires-after-17-seasons-with-crimson-tide-221300348.html
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Walks_At_Night on January 10, 2024, 02:57:12 PM
Nick pulls an Art.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-alabama-coach-nick-saban-retires-after-17-seasons-with-crimson-tide-221300348.html

Wow!
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Up All Night on January 14, 2024, 11:14:00 AM
WR Isaiah Bond from Sabanless Alabama to Texas.  :D
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: PB on January 25, 2024, 07:35:43 PM
Well, the 2024 ACC football schedules are out.

Cal Berkeley has road games to:

Auburn (non conference)
Florida St
Pitt
Wake Forrest
SMU

All those long flights aren't ridiculous at all.

Some of the home games are Miami, NC St, and Syracuse.

The only team they play from the old Pac-12 besides Stanford (also now ACC) is Oregon St.  Likely to help them out since they're scrambling for games now that the Pac-12 is down to them and Wash St.


Stanford plays at Syracuse, Clemson, and NC State.  Some home games are TCU, Virginia Tech, SMU, Wake Forrest, and Louisville.


How long can this last?
Title: College Football Playoff approves 5+7 format and Conf Champs reduced from 6 to 5
Post by: Up All Night on February 20, 2024, 02:00:44 PM
https://apnews.com/article/cfp-expansion-33735d72577d17374d718e6c496983e6

While the four highest-ranked conference champions get a first-round bye, teams seeded fifth through 12th will open the postseason on the home field of the higher-ranked team — No. 5 vs. No. 12; No. 6 vs. No. 11; No. 7 vs. No. 10; and No. 8 vs. No. 9. The first of those four games will be on Dec. 20, a Friday night, with the other three first-round contests played the next day.

New Year’s Six bowl games will host the quarterfinals and semifinal playoff games. The first quarterfinal game next season will be New Year’s Eve in the Fiesta Bowl, followed on New Year’s Day by the Peach Bowl, Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl. The Orange Bowl on Jan. 9, and the Cotton Bowl on Jan. 10, will be the semifinal sites.

The national championship will remain at a neutral site, with next season’s title game Jan. 20 in Atlanta.

The CFP management committee, which is composed of 10 conference commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, is scheduled to meet in person Wednesday in the Dallas area. Topics could include the still-pending $1.3 billion, six-year deal between ESPN and the CFP that would allow the network to keep exclusive rights to the 12-team playoff through the 2031 season.

Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Zetaspeak on February 22, 2024, 10:39:55 PM
I feel a bit sad about this, what made College football so good is that you can't slip up at all during the season, but now with 12 teams getting in you can easily lose two games and still be in, there might be even an outside chance a 3 loss team getting in. It really becomes like every other sport
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: JUAN on February 23, 2024, 04:50:07 AM
What will Notre Dame do?  The new rules say conference champions get the bye, thus no bye for ND.  Will they join the All Coasts Conference?  They are more in the B1G geographically.  And the SEC says the only schools it would consider adding are ND and UNC.
Title: Re: College Football
Post by: Uncle Duke on February 23, 2024, 05:11:02 AM
What will Notre Dame do?  The new rules say conference champions get the bye, thus no bye for ND.  Will they join the All Coasts Conference?  They are more in the B1G geographically.  And the SEC says the only schools it would consider adding are ND and UNC.

ND will never join a conference.   The "only conf champs get a bye" rule was specifically meant to ensure ND didn't get  two weeks between their last game and the first playoff game. That's what would have happened since they had no conf championship game if they could have earned a bye.