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Title: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on July 31, 2018, 07:11:37 AM
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Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on July 31, 2018, 07:15:28 AM
With DaaS Windows coming, say goodbye to your PC as you know it. How much are you going to like having Microsoft in charge of your desktop? (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html)

Microsoft is getting ready to replace Windows 10 with the Microsoft Managed Desktop. This will be a “desktop-as-a-service” (DaaS) offering. Instead of owning Windows, you’ll “rent” it by the month.

another article (https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-got-a-new-plan-for-managing-windows-10-devices-for-a-monthly-fee/)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: juan on July 31, 2018, 09:22:48 AM
No my. I really will move to BSD
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Dyna-X on July 31, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
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What I've noticed is those that have taken the plunge is that they get all angry and tell horror stories about 10, but when I join them in the hate they start defending it. I almost wonder if there is built in mind control in it.

I'm almost in a mode to complete all my projects started in 7 and bring them to fruition and hard copies and phase out computer/internet usage basically entirely. When I read about the DaaS - if that is where it is going, I want nothing to do with M$, period. Their thinking for about the last decade has been 180 degrees out of synch to my own. Its not like I can make a complaint, because the problems are philosophical and of overall design, not technical complaints about a driver or compatibility. As Hoagie would say, they are using the wrong model. Everything is being made more temporal, more complex behind the scenes, with less user control and forced upgrades. And the UI layouts are all made for phones, not for people trying to get things done.

How long will there be hardware to run air-gapped (non-connected) XP machines? Will they still exist as I enter my 70s? Then I think about BIOS batteries and the things that could kill a machine. Something has got to give here. This is getting ridiculous.

The great hope here is this:
https://www.reactos.org/

What kind of machine could I build in 2018 that could run air gapped until 2030 and beyond running something such as XP, Office 2003, etc? Think of it as the "Bunker Machine." The equivalent of COG - Continuity of Government for the personal computer user.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on July 31, 2018, 05:07:47 PM
How long will there be hardware to run air-gapped (non-connected) XP machines? Will they still exist as I enter my 70s? Then I think about BIOS batteries and the things that could kill a machine. Something has got to give here. This is getting ridiculous.

The great hope here is this:
https://www.reactos.org/

What kind of machine could I build in 2018 that could run air gapped until 2030 and beyond running something such as XP, Office 2003, etc? Think of it as the "Bunker Machine." The equivalent of COG - Continuity of Government for the personal computer user.
you cant build this machine. XP lacks the needed drivers and compatibility to even install properly on a 2018 machine (assuming new modern hardware). your better off with some version of linux or  a bsd.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: MaxPower on July 31, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
With DaaS Windows coming, say goodbye to your PC as you know it. How much are you going to like having Microsoft in charge of your desktop? (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html)

Microsoft is getting ready to replace Windows 10 with the Microsoft Managed Desktop. This will be a “desktop-as-a-service” (DaaS) offering. Instead of owning Windows, you’ll “rent” it by the month.

Microsoft's name for it will be Skynet. One new feature is when you Shutdown or Sign Out, the audio will activate and say "I'll be back"  8)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: juan on August 15, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
I just had a Win10 update on my laptop. The dialog box said “Windows is a service”. I’ve never seen that before. It’s now a service, not a product.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on August 17, 2018, 01:51:49 AM
I just had a Win10 update on my laptop. The dialog box said “Windows is a service”. I’ve never seen that before. It’s now a service, not a product.
BAIL Juan - - BAIL

Linux


BSD



Choose now                                 ...or be totally  FUCKED !
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 11, 2019, 11:05:25 PM
Microsoft's name for it will be Skynet. One new feature is when you Shutdown or Sign Out, the audio will activate and say "I'll be back"  8)
LOL - Win-10 is already classified as a virus and a Bot-Net.
...


Almost 3 years old, but in case you haven't seen it...   https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/02/09/windows-10-data-tracking-spying-levels/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/02/09/windows-10-data-tracking-spying-levels/)

@ Dyna-X
I wouldn't doubt one bit there's some form of MK-Ultra designed right in to Win10. When you fire it up and watch the screen, it acts as a soporific.

(You might want to clear your History and clipboard, and only use one tab on a reloaded browser before visiting the following site...)
(Got Bleachbit ?)   ;)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/mk%20ultra (https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/mk%20ultra)

A safer page:  http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/cia-mkultra-collection/ (http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/cia-mkultra-collection/)

Alternatives ?
Yeah, ReacOS has come a long way since I tried it last, But, you may want to check out this site, if you want to be 'FREE' from Doze. It's the best option out there for now. (Purism (https://puri.sm/) is working on it, but they're not there yet.)

https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ (https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/)

An older model laptop, but probably the best 'Bunker' lappy you can find.
Until Intel and AMD revamp their chip architecture, that is pretty much all we have, unless you want to build a pi laptop.  ;)

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/intel-release-first-meltdown-and-spectre-proof-cpus-513687 (https://www.itnews.com.au/news/intel-release-first-meltdown-and-spectre-proof-cpus-513687)  ?? (So they say - but not completely mitigated.)

This also may be worth checking out. It all depends on what you want your system to do.

 https://libreboot.org/suppliers.html (https://libreboot.org/suppliers.html)

Regarding S&M (Spectre & Meltdown,) on the x200 -  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00071.html (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00071.html)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: juan on January 12, 2019, 03:17:24 AM
I set up a separate Linux box, disconnected the LAN cable after installing software, and keep my financial information and intellectual property on it. I wish Linux could run more Windows programs. For instance, I’ve used Quickbooks to run my business for a decade. It won’t install on Linux - and I have the original installation discs.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 01:35:50 AM
I set up a separate Linux box, disconnected the LAN cable after installing software, and keep my financial information and intellectual property on it. I wish Linux could run more Windows programs. For instance, I’ve used Quickbooks to run my business for a decade. It won’t install on Linux - and I have the original installation discs.
Would you be interested in a Linux alternative, or do you want to get QB running on Linux. You've already bought and paid for the QB, and if it's an old enough version you won't need an internet connection to run it. Either way, I hope you have a shit-ton of RAM on that box, because QB is a memory hog.  ;)

Either way, I can probably help you with this.

There will be quirks though, as Doze likes to change it's file formatting between releases.
(Don't worry, I've worked through these before.)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: juan on January 22, 2019, 04:03:37 AM
I’ve tried to install QB and it simply won’t install I’ve searched online and find many complaints from folks who also fail to get it to install. I was able to use WINE to install Quicken 2008, so I suppose that will work just as well for keeping up with bank accounts, etc.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 06:24:25 AM
I’ve tried to install QB and it simply won’t install I’ve searched online and find many complaints from folks who also fail to get it to install. I was able to use WINE to install Quicken 2008, so I suppose that will work just as well for keeping up with bank accounts, etc.
Wine is quirky. Sometimes you have to pull in required .dll's.
You don't need a full blown accounting app for an entire company, right ?
Just an application to handle personal accounting ?

While I'm compiling some info, take a look at this...     https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=217124 (https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=217124)

Edit:   Sorry for the wait. I was on another terminal.   ;)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: StarrMountain on January 22, 2019, 07:41:47 AM
Wine is quirky. Sometimes you have to pull in required .dll's.
Dill wine?  I bet it IS quirky.  I sure as hell wouldn't drink it. ;D
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 08:23:51 AM
Dill wine?  I bet it IS quirky.  I sure as hell wouldn't drink it. ;D
Heh, heh, heh...      Smart-ass.  ;)       ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: GravitySucks on January 22, 2019, 08:45:48 AM
Dill wine?  I bet it IS quirky.  I sure as hell wouldn't drink it. ;D

Stock up.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 09:06:09 AM
Stock up.
Firewood, water, and the Bkp Genny are all prepped.  ;)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: GravitySucks on January 22, 2019, 09:11:25 AM
Firewood, water, and the Bkp Genny are all prepped.  ;)

I’m in Lake Tahoe for a week of skiing. They have had about 6 feet of snow in the last week. Last night it got down to 11F. I want my blankie.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 09:38:56 AM
I’m in Lake Tahoe for a week of skiing. They have had about 6 feet of snow in the last week. Last night it got down to 11F. I want my blankie.
LOL -  ;D
Temps will be in the mid 20's today for me. It's warmed up.
Do you have a decent pair of ski goggles ?   Snow blindness is a Bee-otch.  ;)
I hope you're having a blast. It sounds like fun.
Tuck-N-Go.  :D
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 09:45:08 AM
Nice pic.
At first I thought there was a body impression in the snow where you put it in the tulies, then I zoomed in.  :)
The snow looks a little heavy / wet.
You need some fresh, dry powder.    ;)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: GravitySucks on January 22, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
Nice pic.
At first I thought there was a body impression in the snow where you put it in the tulies, then I zoomed in.  :)
The snow looks a little heavy / wet.
You need some fresh, dry powder.    ;)

Northstar got 79” in the last week. Lots of powder on the slopes. Trouble is I learned to ski in Vermont and upstate NY when I was stationed at Plattsburgh. 40 years later and I still have trouble skiing in deep snow. Give me ice and I can go down any run. Make it powder and I have to stick to blues and groomed blacks. I got stuck in the woods one time in the back bowl at Vail and it took me three hours to get down. Brutal. Snow was chest deep.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: GravitySucks on January 22, 2019, 10:02:16 AM
LOL -  ;D
Temps will be in the mid 20's today for me. It's warmed up.
Do you have a decent pair of ski goggles ?   Snow blindness is a Bee-otch.  ;)
I hope you're having a blast. It sounds like fun.
Tuck-N-Go.  :D

I do have good goggles. With about 6 different colors of lenses.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: Whistler on January 22, 2019, 10:33:52 AM
@juan
Time for me to call it a day big guy.
I'm installing and setting up a program to test it out to see if it's comparable to QB.
Oh, you didn't get a 'No Disk Space Left' error on the Doze box you were running QB on, did you ?
This is very common - it's a bug in QB that's been there damn near 20 years or better.
QB really is nothing more than a polished turd AFAIC, but, if you want to use it, i'll help you.

Let me get this alt installed, set up, and tested. I'll probably write up a tutorial w/ screenshots and a walk-though for installing it.
I'm putting it on a Deb system, so (you did say you're on Mint, right ? ) this should be no problem for you to set it up on your box.

We should move this over to the Linux thread (https://ellgab.com/index.php?topic=50.0) though, so I'll post my walk-through over there.  ;)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: juan on January 22, 2019, 01:37:34 PM
No, no Windows error. I’ll look forward to your fix.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: KSM on March 20, 2019, 07:17:46 PM
I have a W10 query. This may be one for @wr250 perhaps. I really hate the way 10 was forced and even more angry that I cannot control updates as on previous OS's. Question is how does W10 update even when I have the ethernet cable unplugged and my system wifi set to off? I really should revert back to 7 :-\

I have a second laptop that I keep in the basement of my rental house so it's sometimes unplugged and down for weeks on end so of course it doesn't update until I fire it back up, but that is obvious.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on March 21, 2019, 07:45:08 AM
I have a W10 query. This may be one for @wr250 perhaps. I really hate the way 10 was forced and even more angry that I cannot control updates as on previous OS's. Question is how does W10 update even when I have the ethernet cable unplugged and my system wifi set to off? I really should revert back to 7 :-\

I have a second laptop that I keep in the basement of my rental house so it's sometimes unplugged and down for weeks on end so of course it doesn't update until I fire it back up, but that is obvious.
it probably turns the wifi on and updates.
the solution is to set the wifi connection to "metered" , so windows wont update using that ("except whats needed to keep windows running smoothly") .
the wired connection can be set that way as well, i use winaero tweaker to do so.
the other option is to disable WU in  services.msc . you will need to manually update by turning it back on , when finished disable it again.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: KSM on March 21, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
it probably turns the wifi on and updates.
the solution is to set the wifi connection to "metered" , so windows wont update using that ("except whats needed to keep windows running smoothly") .
the wired connection can be set that way as well, i use winaero tweaker to do so.
the other option is to disable WU in  services.msc . you will need to manually update by turning it back on , when finished disable it again.
Thank you!
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on March 22, 2019, 04:55:37 AM
Thank you!
to make windows defender update after you disable WU, follow the directions here (https://www.urtech.ca/2014/08/solved-how-to-make-windows-defender-to-update-automatically/)
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: pissinthewind on March 23, 2019, 07:13:40 AM
windows 10 is just horrible the only pc I have it on is one that is offline all the time. using ubuntu on my main pc that I built last year
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: KSM on March 23, 2019, 02:52:27 PM
W10 seems to have a personal grudge against my VPN.    New thing; when I get the update notifications they inform me that "Windows is a service" etc"  Think I'd prefer 98 SE over 10.
Title: Re: windows 10
Post by: wr250 on April 15, 2019, 05:56:37 AM
W10 seems to have a personal grudge against my VPN.    New thing; when I get the update notifications they inform me that "Windows is a service" etc"  Think I'd prefer 98 SE over 10.
wait till they start charging on a  monthly/yearly basis.