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Title: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on January 04, 2019, 12:10:30 AM
I just took a screenshot of both ellgab and bellgab. Its look like ellgab is getting more guest looking at ellgab then bellgab.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 04, 2019, 08:56:46 AM
Ellgab is also the consistent clear winner in the active participating member numbers, always around 2 times to 5 times more than Bellgab.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: AutumnRain on January 04, 2019, 08:58:26 AM
I know this is a rookie question but why Bellgab dying?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 04, 2019, 09:09:26 AM
I know this is a rookie question but why Bellgab dying?
The same reason why is Ellgab dying, duh!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 04, 2019, 09:53:47 AM
I know this is a rookie question but why Bellgab dying?
Since they reopened, they have not gained any significant traction. With the better alternative and success of Ellgab, it is clear where most people are choosing to spend time.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Bluejay on January 04, 2019, 10:17:23 AM
The food is better here.
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Happier Times are Coming on January 04, 2019, 01:41:32 PM
well, with Sir Bart having clenched the support and confidence of George “Falkie” Senda and...
his “beloved” (still married...so, I am guessing adulterous) girlfriend slow Kathy “the Buffet Destroyer”

it is NO surprise Ellgab has not only surpassed the evil MV “Liberace” and his site Bellgab...
but left it with nowhere to go but down...again
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 04, 2019, 06:10:32 PM
Back before I ever even heard of BellGab, the folks on ''The Original George Noory Sucks'' thread at GLP referred to MV as Michael Vanderweasel. 

I didn't know who the guy even was, and wondered why the animosity.  I don't wonder about it anymore.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Happier Times are Coming on January 04, 2019, 06:12:57 PM
Back before I ever even heard of BellGab, the folks on ''The Original George Noory Sucks'' thread at GLP referred to MV as Michael Vanderweasel. 

I didn't know who the guy even was, and wondered why the animosity.  I don't wonder about it anymore.
are you insinuating “Liberace” is hiding “something” ?

maybe someone should ask all those “boys” hanging around his...
pool
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 04, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
Back before I ever even heard of BellGab, the folks on ''The Original George Noory Sucks'' thread at GLP referred to MV as Michael Vanderweasel. 

I didn't know who the guy even was, and wondered why the animosity.  I don't wonder about it anymore.
I joined there back in '07 when I was looking for GNS threads on Google.  I had a good report with MV back then, even joined his GNS forum when he left GLP, and stay with him through each evolution of GNS to BellGab.
When he returned with BellGab I felt he was a very different person from the one before he left.  This is just my opinion, and I can't explain it.  It's just that uneasy gut feeling one gets when something isn't what it appears to be.  I've always had a decent friendship with MV and I'm still at a loss why it has changed.  I have a good idea, but I won't speak of it unless/until I have concrete proof.  For now, I'm taking a hiatus from BellGab.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 04, 2019, 06:46:06 PM
I joined there back in '07 when I was looking for GNS threads on Google.  I had a good report with MV back then, even joined his GNS forum when he left GLP, and stay with him through each evolution of GNS to BellGab.
When he returned with BellGab I felt he was a very different person from the one before he left.  This is just my opinion, and I can't explain it.  It's just that uneasy gut feeling one gets when something isn't what it appears to be.  I've always had a decent friendship with MV and I'm still at a loss why it has changed.  I have a good idea, but I won't speak of it unless/until I have concrete proof.  For now, I'm taking a hiatus from BellGab.

There was always a bit of a jerk there, usually just under the surface.  He stopped hiding it.

Didn't you ever wonder why he had to go to a third word dating site to find someone who would tolerate being around him (apparently in exchange for her not living in poverty)?  Wouldn't Arab Moslems from some shithole country be pretty much at the bottom of most people's list?  Something's off with him.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 04, 2019, 06:49:24 PM
MW always made a huge deal about being able to run his business the way he wanted and blah, blah, blah.

But remember the reaction when he had a short lived show on someone else's network (Keith's), and Keith had a few rules he wanted followed there?  Like, you know, no terrorist threats during a broadcast.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 04, 2019, 06:50:48 PM
There was always a bit of a jerk there, usually just under the surface.  He stopped hiding it.

Didn't you ever wonder why he had to go to a third word dating site to find someone who would tolerate being around him?  Wouldn't Arab Moslems from some shithole country be pretty much at the bottom of most people's list?  Something's off with him.
I'm not aware of his private life, and that's as it should be, as far as I'm concerned.  I'm not out for retribution, I'm up for resolution. ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 04, 2019, 06:57:27 PM
I'm not aware of his private life, and that's as it should be, as far as I'm concerned.  I'm not out for retribution, I'm up for resolution. ;)

Ok, got it, you aren't really interested in an explanation. 

Perhaps Bellahaven is still around
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 12:17:44 AM
He hasn't changed.  As far as I can tell, he's always had an edgy side, a side that is not real comfy.  Makes me wonder if he is a water sign or has a lot of water influence in his chart.

If people were balls, he might be a waxball.  Like, you never know exactly what you're dealing with, and the consistency could vary depending on starting temperature, handling, and room temperature.  His decisions and timelines seem very fluid to me.

Lots of people aren't typical sheeple.  I don't think he meant any offense.  Maybe he thinks people sometimes need a kick in the pants!  You know how some people are super loyal to each other just because they have a friendship?  Well, outside the mobs of sheeple, there are individuals who just don't flock the same way. 

One thing about him I like is that if he is going to "kick" someone, at least he seems for do it when they have been down long enough to get over it.  That's great.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 07, 2019, 01:21:42 AM
I know this is a rookie question but why Bellgab dying?
And she still is showing up here.  Wonder why?  8) :P ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 01:24:15 AM

+1. Does she know what she is?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 07, 2019, 01:30:56 AM
+1. Does she know what she is?
Excellent question, Sofia.   But I don't deal in hateful energy, so I really don't know.  You'll have to ask her.

Oh.  +1 back atcha.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Robert on January 07, 2019, 08:12:10 AM
He hasn't changed.  As far as I can tell, he's always had an edgy side, a side that is not real comfy.
I've frequently observed, in people of whom other people say they've changed, that they always had "sides", and that the people who say they've changed simply never had a large enough sampling to know that previously.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: rekcuf on January 07, 2019, 09:21:59 AM
And she still is showing up here.  Wonder why?  8) :P ;D

ive never understood why so many here have such a negative view of brig. what did she do to generate such ruffled feathers? inquiring minds and such.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Gd5150 on January 07, 2019, 11:17:17 AM
For me the 2 sites are essentially the same. A place to get some interesting info on a few paranormal topics I’m interested in. And some outside the box political discussions. Don’t care about the lives of members or hosts whining for attention.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 07:36:33 PM
ive never understood why so many here have such a negative view of brig. what did she do to generate such ruffled feathers? inquiring minds and such.
Metron and MD mis-quoted me and stalked me relentlessly over their disagreement over something (something I never actually even said!).  for months, the two kept mis-quoting and mobbing me in every thread I posted, even though the actual topic only belonged in one thread.  At one point, Brig, out of the blue, along with them, basically called for me to be banned!  At first I thought it was a fake brig, but later I verified the spelling and capitalization/non-capitalization and sure enough, it was her.

I was very surprised.  When Ellgab opened, brig had a chance to come clean and apologize, but she denied doing it.  But the thread and her posts are still there!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 07:39:49 PM
I've frequently observed, in people of whom other people say they've changed, that they always had "sides", and that the people who say they've changed simply never had a large enough sampling to know that previously.
Makes sense to me.  On the other hand, it can really come as a surprise to some people when an individual stands on principle instead of cowtowing.  Because in our society, there is an unspoken code not to be disloyal to your little group.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: EarthAlien007 on January 07, 2019, 07:44:42 PM
And she still is showing up here.  Wonder why?  8) :P ;D

Wow I can't believe you're whining about Brig again.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: spinthebottle on January 07, 2019, 07:48:29 PM
There was always a bit of a jerk there, usually just under the surface.  He stopped hiding it.

Didn't you ever wonder why he had to go to a third word dating site to find someone who would tolerate being around him (apparently in exchange for her not living in poverty)?  Wouldn't Arab Moslems from some shithole country be pretty much at the bottom of most people's list?  Something's off with him.

Dude lives in a sleeper cell apartment building with windows covered with bedsheets and plywood
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WildCard on January 07, 2019, 07:49:14 PM
Metron and MD mis-quoted me and stalked me relentlessly over their disagreement over something (something I never actually even said!).  for months, the two kept mis-quoting and mobbing me in every thread I posted, even though the actual topic only belonged in one thread.  At one point, Brig, out of the blue, along with them, basically called for me to be banned!  At first I thought it was a fake brig, but later I verified the spelling and capitalization/non-capitalization and sure enough, it was her.

I was very surprised.  When Ellgab opened, brig had a chance to come clean and apologize, but she denied doing it.  But the thread and her posts are still there!

Link?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WildCard on January 07, 2019, 07:58:03 PM
Dude lives in a sleeper cell apartment building with windows covered with bedsheets and plywood

i heard it's a worse than that. but so what?
at least he doesn't believe that ridiculous stalker story like some of us.
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oh, i thought you guys were talking about chefist.
but i like where this is going.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 08:51:54 PM
Link?

LINK:  http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=8054.0

Quote from: Metron2267 on July 02, 2018, 08:10:53 AM
14 is a traitor to this nation who endorsed Aunty Entity Maxine's calls for ultra violence against the members of this administration.

Flush the biotch! >:(

So Say We ALL!!!!
...
P.S. Secret message to whoever hacked the OP:  PlbshfuhwahwhohuhhahahahahaOHnoWhoHowWhewPewWhoDidThishahahahaha!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 08:59:56 PM
There was always a bit of a jerk there, usually just under the surface.  He stopped hiding it.

Didn't you ever wonder why he had to go to a third word dating site to find someone who would tolerate being around him (apparently in exchange for her not living in poverty)?  Wouldn't Arab Moslems from some shithole country be pretty much at the bottom of most people's list?  Something's off with him.
I don't know anything about this and it doesn't sound like anything I ever heard.  However, just for the sake of argument, perhaps he saved someone.  Got her the Hell out.  Or, not.  I really don't know.  But as far as supposedly marrying someone at the bottom of most people's supposed lists, what would Jesus do?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: EarthAlien007 on January 07, 2019, 09:07:16 PM
LINK:  http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=8054.0

Quote from: Metron2267 on July 02, 2018, 08:10:53 AM
14 is a traitor to this nation who endorsed Aunty Entity Maxine's calls for ultra violence against the members of this administration.

Flush the biotch! >:(
P.S. Secret message to whoever hacked the OP:  PlbshfuhwahwhohuhhahahahahaOHnoWhoHowWhewPewWhoDidThishahahahaha!

Is this a trend now, crying about not being liked at Bellgab? I bet the Fringetards love this shit.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 07, 2019, 09:31:50 PM
Excellent question, Sofia.   But I don't deal in hateful energy, so I really don't know.  You'll have to ask her.

Oh.  +1 back atcha.  ;) ;D


Bart, O Bart.  Prince Bartee of Our Partee.  Where art thou?  Woe is me, that thou wouldst let my own kind wound me so, with her unseemly discourse.  One with the veritable star in her own name.  Hast thou allowed this detriment due to a new changling time of thy own?  Say it tisn't so, proclaim that thou hast not been in metamorphosis, but that instead, my persecution be of a hacker, not of thy change of heart.  Would that thou twas hacked than thou abandon me in my mere fourteenth year.  A mere fortnight ago, woo was me, but now only Woe. Is. Me.
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 07, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
LINK:  http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=8054.0

Quote from: Metron2267 on July 02, 2018, 08:10:53 AM
14 is a traitor to this nation who endorsed Aunty Entity Maxine's calls for ultra violence against the members of this administration.

Flush the biotch! >:(
P.S. Secret message to whoever hacked the OP:  PlbshfuhwahwhohuhhahahahahaOHnoWhoHowWhewPewWhoDidThishahahahaha!

Wow! They really take all this very seriously, I had no idea. Brig just now realizing that "14 is jojo"? hysterical. And retarded.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on January 07, 2019, 10:30:21 PM
Wow! They really take all this very seriously, I had no idea. Brig just now realizing that "14 is jojo"? hysterical. And retarded.

Yeah. Like you weren't triggered. Hence your avatar
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Bluejay on January 07, 2019, 10:46:38 PM
Yeah. Like you weren't triggered. Hence your avatar
Looks like Tootsie Wootsie.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 07, 2019, 11:01:05 PM
Yeah. Like you weren't triggered. Hence your avatar
How so, I've had this AV for a while now, before this thread was authored in fact. I was going to do your floors for free. Now, I don't know.

Looks like Tootsie Wootsie.
You may have a point there. However, that is actually me in that picture.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 08, 2019, 12:27:21 AM
Is this a trend now, crying about not being liked at Bellgab? I bet the Fringetards love this shit.
@EarthAlien007 Brig does not represent Bellgab.  I could prove it, but I'm not cruel.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WildCard on January 08, 2019, 06:09:21 AM
LINK:  http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=8054.0

Quote from: Metron2267 on July 02, 2018, 08:10:53 AM
14 is a traitor to this nation who endorsed Aunty Entity Maxine's calls for ultra violence against the members of this administration.
Flush the biotch! >:(

Oh, I didn't know you were 14.
>insert 14 year-old girl joke here<
Yeah, I remember that. I thought you stood up just fine.
And anyway, somebody needs to talk to metron and ritchie. If not you, who?


P.S. Secret message to whoever hacked the OP:  PlbshfuhwahwhohuhhahahahahaOHnoWhoHowWhewPewWhoDidThishahahahaha!

> #SoSayWeAll
The jokes don't work if you explain them.
(Hi serenity.)

@
I could prove it, but I'm not cruel.

Ugh, you broads and your PMs.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 08, 2019, 01:38:28 PM
Oh, I didn't know you were 14.
>insert 14 year-old girl joke here<
Yeah, I remember that. I thought you stood up just fine.
And anyway, somebody needs to talk to metron and ritchie. If not you, who?

> #SoSayWeAll
The jokes don't work if you explain them.
(Hi serenity.)

Ugh, you broads and your PMs.

Thanks for the compliment!  :)
 

A.  @WildCard -Okay, I volunteer to interface with Dramatron2267 and WhiMD sometimes!
B.  Are you calling me "Serenity"?  Aren't I more like "Turbulence With courtesy Breaks?"
C.  I did not explain the joke. it was just an allusion, no?  Most people are not motivated enough to even care what I allude to, let alone inquisitive enough to re-create it to check the original source.
D.  Who was the prankster!
E.  I have not and will not PM about such a prank - that would be cruel.  Let the evidence speak for itself.
Hopefully my only comment will continue to be    PlbshfuhwahwhohuhhahahahahaOHnoWhoHowWhewPewWhoDidThishahahahaha
F.  Most of my PMs are from men.  For every post I get from a woman, there must be thirty from men.  I feel awkward when the dudes are married, but having brothers, males have always confided in me to no harm at all.  My Avon lady was a straight man too.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on January 09, 2019, 09:17:46 PM
There was always a bit of a jerk there, usually just under the surface.  He stopped hiding it.

Didn't you ever wonder why he had to go to a third word dating site to find someone who would tolerate being around him (apparently in exchange for her not living in poverty)?  Wouldn't Arab Moslems from some shithole country be pretty much at the bottom of most people's list?  Something's off with him.

MV has a bit of a mean streak in him... I get the impression people have tired of him more than once in his life. Don't care enough if it's an accurate reading of it. Bellgab used to be smart and funny, it is now neither.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 09, 2019, 09:28:39 PM
MV has a bit of a mean streak in him... I get the impression people have tired of him more than once in his life. Don't care enough if it's an accurate reading of it. Bellgab used to be smart and funny, it is now neither.
+1 That is why people don't care about BG anymore.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 10, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
Both places have an abundance of cat ladies. I like cats, but for fuck sakes sometimes it's too much.


and now you do your part and smite me
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Robert on January 10, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
So what's Ellgab scheduled to play Bellgab in?  Are my services as a coach required?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 10, 2019, 06:52:20 PM
+1 That is why people don't care about BG anymore.
You toss me from a tiny truck onto woodchips!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 10, 2019, 06:58:48 PM
So what's Ellgab scheduled to play Bellgab in?  Are my services as a coach required?
Ellgab has its own tune.  We always need you, Robert!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 10, 2019, 07:19:52 PM
So what's Ellgab scheduled to play Bellgab in?
Boxing, mma, chess and drinking. All they want to do is indian leg wrestle. Varas.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 10, 2019, 07:47:42 PM
MV has a bit of a mean streak in him... I get the impression people have tired of him more than once in his life. Don't care enough if it's an accurate reading of it. Bellgab used to be smart and funny, it is now neither.

I miss the real MV. :'(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 10, 2019, 08:25:10 PM
I miss the real MV. :'(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on January 10, 2019, 09:47:09 PM
Both places have an abundance of cat ladies. I like cats, but for fuck sakes sometimes it's too much.


and now you do your part and smite me

No but if you want I can stand on your back in my stilettos while you do my floors. You do really beautiful work
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 10, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
No but if you want I can stand on your back in my stilettos while you do my floors. You do really beautiful work

Gulp Isn't it enough that I wear knee pads at my job? And btw, thank you. +1 #Youza
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on January 11, 2019, 05:49:19 PM
I miss the real MV. :'(

I think if you build a community that caters to people with personality disorders then maybe you start to develop one yourself.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on January 11, 2019, 07:25:45 PM
I think if you build a community that caters to people with personality disorders then maybe you start to develop one yourself.
Boy isn’t that the truth. More nuts than a payday bar over yonder.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 12, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
I miss the real MV. :'(

I think you finally found/recognized him
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on January 12, 2019, 11:52:37 PM
I laughed out loud when dude humblebragged about being a source of consumer wisdom on a segment for some redneck news channel. I always did think he could be quite funny.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 13, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
I think if you build a community that caters to people with personality disorders then maybe you start to develop one yourself.

I'd love to build a community to help others who don't understand the nature of reality, but I just don't have the finances to purchase the property and structures.  Sorry, I don't think I can help you.  Perhaps a specialist in behavior or personality disorders could. 

Good luck, my friend. :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 13, 2019, 12:28:33 AM
I think you finally found/recognized him
Maybe.  I just don't want to believe it.  I've known MV for so long, since 2007-08.  He's always been straight up with me - till after the "Fall Of BellGab."  After that I didn't recognize the MV I'd known for so many years.

It is making me depressed and sad that he won't answer my email, or even tell me what I did to offend him.
I did get a rather cryptic post on BG from "Liberace" but it certainly didn't sound the the MV from, "GNS," "CoastGab," or "BellGab," the MV who had been my good friend.
It was a totally different personality that lashed out at me, and it wasn't MV's.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: AutumnRain on January 16, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
I signed up fro bellgab at the beginning of this year and I am still waiting to be "approved".
Whatever the hell that means....
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 17, 2019, 03:21:37 AM
Maybe.  I just don't want to believe it.  I've known MV for so long, since 2007-08.  He's always been straight up with me - till after the "Fall Of BellGab."  After that I didn't recognize the MV I'd known for so many years.

It is making me depressed and sad that he won't answer my email, or even tell me what I did to offend him.
I did get a rather cryptic post on BG from "Liberace" but it certainly didn't sound the the MV from, "GNS," "CoastGab," or "BellGab," the MV who had been my good friend.
It was a totally different personality that lashed out at me, and it wasn't MV's.
Basically, all he said was that you were nuts to say something "doesn't look right" about him.  And, he's used sharp words with others, too, so I wouldn't take it too personally.  He would probably be happier if you accepted his feedback even though the way he said it wasn't very nice.  He told you to stop brandishing ideas about him which he denies.

Would you rather he avoid expressing his feelings and then just shut the place down when he's had enough?  That seems to be what happened on July 4.  Or, can you take his honest feedback, honor it, and move on for the sake of peace, if for no other reason.

Starr, of course it's him.  There is a paper trail all the way through his name changes in the name change thread.  He doesn't "have" to leave such a paper trail, following his own policies.  As the owner, he could have skipped all that & we might never have known his real name.  But every time, he leaves a paper trail just like the Bible leaves the "Begats" for everyone who is interested to follow.  Therefore, it is most likely him.  He was just recently on a podcast, so if his own forum's avatar had been hacked, I think he would have mentioned it!!


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 25, 2019, 10:17:49 AM
It's been a while since I went to BG but it looks like it's even slower than it was last month if that's possible. It has become the Metron show. MV should just give the site to Metron and be done with it.

AOC posted this in their True Confessions Of BellGab thread today:
Where is everyone ?
This site has slowed down somewhat.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: spinthebottle on January 25, 2019, 03:52:01 PM
It's been a while since I went to BG but it looks like it's even slower than it was last month if that's possible. It has become the Metron show. MV should just give the site to Metron and be done with it.

AOC posted this in their True Confessions Of BellGab thread today:
Where is everyone ?
This site has slowed down somewhat.

Myke Deacon is in constant full meltdown over bart and ellgab. Almost all his posts are about Bart Ell. Someone called Myke out about his bought views on Youtube but he still pretends he gets real views. The real truth is he runs 20 accounts that leave comments on his videos and he has conversations with himself on his videos. Youtube shut down his main account because of bought views.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 25, 2019, 08:39:47 PM
Myke Deacon is in constant full meltdown over bart and ellgab. Almost all his posts are about Bart Ell. Someone called Myke out about his bought views on Youtube but he still pretends he gets real views. The real truth is he runs 20 accounts that leave comments on his videos and he has conversations with himself on his videos. Youtube shut down his main account because of bought views.
Interesting, I didn't know that. I only go back there once in a while and I haven't kept up on Deacon's issues.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 25, 2019, 10:43:22 PM
It's been a while since I went to BG but it looks like it's even slower than it was last month if that's possible. It has become the Metron show. MV should just give the site to Metron and be done with it.

AOC posted this in their True Confessions Of BellGab thread today:
Where is everyone ?
This site has slowed down somewhat.
Metron Dramatron.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 26, 2019, 11:29:11 PM
It's been a while since I went to BG but it looks like it's even slower than it was last month if that's possible. It has become the Metron show. MV should just give the site to Metron and be done with it.
Far better than the gnarled hands he has placed it in at the moment.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 27, 2019, 08:51:21 AM
Far better than the gnarled hands he has placed it in at the moment.
And there is this today from BG land from WeinerInHand: "Alright, folks. I'm done. This site has devolved to the point that it is nothing more than the back of an elementary school bus where we learned our first swear words. I'm 45 years old and I have no interest in this. I'll miss some of you. Take care."
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on January 27, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Shitposters like Myke, Metron and Brig dominating conversation is the kind of thing that kills forums.

Vandeven - it's OK, you don't have to actually pretend anymore that these people are the least bit interesting, funny or insightful
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 27, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Shitposters like Myke, Metron and Brig dominating conversation is the kind of thing that kills forums.

Vandeven - it's OK, you don't have to actually pretend anymore that these people are the least bit interesting, funny or insightful
Take away the posts from those three and Dr MD and there goes the majority of posts. MV is now suffering the karma from the parameters (or lack thereof) that he set up for BG. Members tossed from here end up there. It seems BG has become the Ellgab Zoo.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Whistler on January 27, 2019, 04:13:01 PM
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+1 - Hold your ground.   ;)

Hey, that pic is Photoshopped and if it is really you, I always suspected you might be a 'Deviant'...   ;)
(Heh, heh, heh.)
...and I like the name you chose for your website.
Keep warm - up there.   ;).

Date Taken
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Software
    Adobe Photoshop CS3 Windows

I did a quick search on your surname and found your family coat-of-arms / crest, removed the name, scaled it, sharpened it,  enhanced it with a bump map, and added tranparency to two of the exports. The colors are original. No Photoshop - this was in gimp. The original image was tiny.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 28, 2019, 04:17:19 PM
Shitposters like Myke, Metron Brig dominating conversation is the kind of thing that kills forums.

Vandeven - it's OK, you don't have to actually pretend anymore that this person are the least bit interesting, funny or insightful
FIFY  ;) ;D

Bump: +1 ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Bluejay on January 28, 2019, 04:40:07 PM
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: rekcuf on January 28, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
heh heh
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 28, 2019, 05:40:11 PM
heh heh
Bumped ya, +1 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on January 28, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
Basically, all he said was that you were nuts to say something "doesn't look right" about him.  And, he's used sharp words with others, too, so I wouldn't take it too personally.  He would probably be happier if you accepted his feedback even though the way he said it wasn't very nice.  He told you to stop brandishing ideas about him which he denies.

Would you rather he avoid expressing his feelings and then just shut the place down when he's had enough?  That seems to be what happened on July 4.  Or, can you take his honest feedback, honor it, and move on for the sake of peace, if for no other reason.

Starr, of course it's him.  There is a paper trail all the way through his name changes in the name change thread.  He doesn't "have" to leave such a paper trail, following his own policies.  As the owner, he could have skipped all that & we might never have known his real name.  But every time, he leaves a paper trail just like the Bible leaves the "Begats" for everyone who is interested to follow.  Therefore, it is most likely him.  He was just recently on a podcast, so if his own forum's avatar had been hacked, I think he would have mentioned it!!
You're right, of course.  I just feel that after the friendship we had shared, for almost a decade, was too easily tossed aside without warning or explanation, and no, he's not required to do so.  It just leaves me feeling bewildered, and betrayed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Dyna-X on January 28, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
Take away the posts from those three and Dr MD and there goes the majority of posts. MV is now suffering the karma from the parameters (or lack thereof) that he set up for BG. Members tossed from here end up there. It seems BG has become the Ellgab Zoo.
For all intents and purposes that is true. MV can still claim bragging rights for what the site once was and while he made the claim that he wants us all back including the cat ladies so that he can watch them "get triggered," he is actually glad that some of us are gone. His pet peeve was anyone telling him to moderate his site. I dared to say something about that once and I think I was one of those he had in mind for the glad we are gone category.

I do understand the points of his ethos with "free speech" for its own sake, but I have also have seen the results of that plan when there is a concentration of those that take this ethos with a nearly religious zealotry.  I have also been on over enforced sites that with every post you feel like you are on eggshells. I guess in this way I am the ultimate centrist. Everything in moderation - pun intended ;D We all in the end after everything is stirred settle at our own level. Ellgab is about the right balance. If they enjoy Bellgab the way it is, then I hope they are having a good time. The pressure relief/overflow valve works both ways. I have never felt censored here, but then again I have never felt compelled to make a lot of noise, be a baby, pick fights, or be radical for the sake of being radical.



Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: spinthebottle on January 28, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
Mike walker is complaining about people shitting up threads he likes. Sorry Mike that's what you get when you let metron myke and dr md to run your show for you.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 28, 2019, 10:44:26 PM
Mike walker is complaining about people shitting up threads he likes. Sorry Mike that's what you get when you let metron myke and dr md to run your show for you.
It is true.  Is the name of his avatar "Mike walker"?  Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 28, 2019, 10:49:43 PM
You're right, of course.  I just feel that after the friendship we had shared, for almost a decade, was too easily tossed aside without warning or explanation, and no, he's not required to do so.  It just leaves me feeling bewildered, and betrayed.
He spoke harshly.  I don't think he tossed aside your friendship, though.  Maybe he's grown an "edgy" side?  It was harsh, but at least he didn't use any words like "bitch" or anything...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on January 28, 2019, 10:56:35 PM
+1 - Hold your ground.   ;)

Hey, that pic is Photoshopped and if it is really you, I always suspected you might be a 'Deviant'...   ;)
(Heh, heh, heh.)
...and I like the name you chose for your website.
Keep warm - up there.   ;).

Date Taken
    Oct 4, 2010, 9:26:55 PM
Software
    Adobe Photoshop CS3 Windows

I did a quick search on your surname and found your family coat-of-arms / crest, removed the name, scaled it, sharpened it,  enhanced it with a bump map, and added tranparency to two of the exports. The colors are original. No Photoshop - this was in gimp. The original image was tiny.  ;)
Thanks for the coats of arms!  Those are great!  But @Whistler I don't have a website.  I just went on Google Images and then did some cropping.  But a little deviancy goes a long way!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on January 28, 2019, 10:57:35 PM
It is true.  Is the name of his avatar "Mike walker"?  Never heard of him.

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/38300453/fbi-warns-your-router-may-be-infected-by-russian-malware/
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Whistler on January 28, 2019, 11:16:15 PM
Thanks for the coats of arms!  Those are great!  But @Whistler I don't have a website.  I just went on Google Images and then did some cropping.  But a little deviancy goes a long way!
@You're Wecome. 
Glad you caught the reference, and thanks for letting me know.  ;)

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Whistler on January 28, 2019, 11:22:18 PM
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/38300453/fbi-warns-your-router-may-be-infected-by-russian-malware/
http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato)      ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 29, 2019, 03:42:30 PM
For all intents and purposes that is true. MV can still claim bragging rights for what the site once was and while he made the claim that he wants us all back including the cat ladies so that he can watch them "get triggered," he is actually glad that some of us are gone. His pet peeve was anyone telling him to moderate his site. I dared to say something about that once and I think I was one of those he had in mind for the glad we are gone category.

I do understand the points of his ethos with "free speech" for its own sake, but I have also have seen the results of that plan when there is a concentration of those that take this ethos with a nearly religious zealotry.  I have also been on over enforced sites that with every post you feel like you are on eggshells. I guess in this way I am the ultimate centrist. Everything in moderation - pun intended ;D We all in the end after everything is stirred settle at our own level. Ellgab is about the right balance. If they enjoy Bellgab the way it is, then I hope they are having a good time. The pressure relief/overflow valve works both ways. I have never felt censored here, but then again I have never felt compelled to make a lot of noise, be a baby, pick fights, or be radical for the sake of being radical.
+1 Pretty much spot on in your assessment.

His pet peeve was anyone telling him to moderate his site. I dared to say something about that once and I think I was one of those he had in mind for the glad we are gone category.
Interesting you mention that. Years ago on BG, one of my first impressions of MV, unfortunately, was when someone asked about site moderation and his response was attacking and derogatory and undeserved.

This ties in to the BG quote of the day today about hostility over there:
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Liberace! on Today at 02:03:08 AM
"Why the hostility?  I don't get it."
--------------

He speaks the truth, he really doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on January 29, 2019, 06:44:37 PM
Ell has more woman than bell. And our woman are more fuckable too ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on January 31, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
+1 Pretty much spot on in your assessment.
Interesting you mention that. Years ago on BG, one of my first impressions of MV, unfortunately, was when someone asked about site moderation and his response was attacking and derogatory and undeserved.

This ties in to the BG quote of the day today about hostility over there:
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Liberace! on Today at 02:03:08 AM
"Why the hostility?  I don't get it."
--------------

He speaks the truth, he really doesn't get it.

mv is letting bellgab die a painful death by not clearing out the garbage like metron and dr md md. new member rain is making a fool of themself by not knowing praise bart started by brig who always posted praise mv on bellagb but i don't think anyone will point that out or fill them it that it is a joke. mv's ego must of taken a big hit when so few went back to bellgab and now some are leaving because every topic is taken over by the metron dr md md posts. username and vc are two more that seem to have serious mental problems. it was fun when it was back but it has become almost unreadable since all the topics got taken over and ruined.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on January 31, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
mv is letting bellgab die a painful death by not clearing out the garbage like metron and dr md md. new member rain is making a fool of themself by not knowing praise bart started by brig who always posted praise mv on bellagb but i don't think anyone will point that out or fill them it that it is a joke. mv's ego must of taken a big hit when so few went back to bellgab and now some are leaving because every topic is taken over by the metron dr md md posts. username and vc are two more that seem to have serious mental problems. it was fun when it was back but it has become almost unreadable since all the topics got taken over and ruined.

Sounds good, hopefully MW keeps his word and keeps it going for another 9 and a half years.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on January 31, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
mv is letting bellgab die a painful death by not clearing out the garbage like metron and dr md md. new member rain is making a fool of themself by not knowing praise bart started by brig who always posted praise mv on bellagb but i don't think anyone will point that out or fill them it that it is a joke. mv's ego must of taken a big hit when so few went back to bellgab and now some are leaving because every topic is taken over by the metron dr md md posts. username and vc are two more that seem to have serious mental problems. it was fun when it was back but it has become almost unreadable since all the topics got taken over and ruined.
I went back and looked at some of the other threads and you are right, a lot of topic threads on BG have become a battleground of personal vendettas. Metron, if provoked, is like an attack dog that bites and won't let go, I do give him credit for being persistent. I just can't believe that MV is happy with the way things are going. If he is unhappy with it, then either he has just given up, or he is in denial, or he doesn't know how to fix it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: twistedlogic on February 01, 2019, 03:25:51 PM
I went back and looked at some of the other threads and you are right, a lot of topic threads on BG have become a battleground of personal vendettas. Metron, if provoked, is like an attack dog that bites and won't let go, I do give him credit for being persistent. I just can't believe that MV is happy with the way things are going. If he is unhappy with it, then either he has just given up, or he is in denial, or he doesn't know how to fix it.
It is a sad place. Did you notice all the ellgab mentions? It's funny they spend as much time discussing what is happening here as anything else. The ones that are banned alternate between bragging about getting banned to begging for information and screen shots.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 01, 2019, 10:12:33 PM
It is a sad place. Did you notice all the ellgab mentions? It's funny they spend as much time discussing what is happening here as anything else. The ones that are banned alternate between bragging about getting banned to begging for information and screen shots.
I noticed that also. Check this out: This is a recap of the last 50 or so posts over on BG. The forum has deteriorated into the Metron vs. Dr MD attack show across the board with Brig trying to get a word in edgewise:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 01, 2019, 10:34:51 PM
It is a sad place. Did you notice all the ellgab mentions? It's funny they spend as much time discussing what is happening here as anything else. The ones that are banned alternate between bragging about getting banned to begging for information and screen shots.
@twistedlogic Um, dear mrs logic I'm standing right here, I can hear you.  If you're referring to me, I did think I was banned for a short while. I asked Bartimus about it and he let me know what happened in some detail. And for the record, I would periodically ban me just for fun.




Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: twistedlogic on February 02, 2019, 04:37:32 AM
@twistedlogic Um, dear mrs logic I'm standing right here, I can hear you.  If you're referring to me, I did think I was banned for a short while. I asked Bartimus about it and he let me know what happened in some detail. And for the record, I would periodically ban me just for fun.


Nope not talking about you, dear.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 02, 2019, 07:31:27 AM
I went back and looked at some of the other threads and you are right, a lot of topic threads on BG have become a battleground of personal vendettas. Metron, if provoked, is like an attack dog that bites and won't let go, I do give him credit for being persistent. I just can't believe that MV is happy with the way things are going. If he is unhappy with it, then either he has just given up, or he is in denial, or he doesn't know how to fix it.
Metron is a blowhard of the highest order. If you disagree with him, or even just don’t agree loudly enough, he posts repeated mile long replies with quotes from all sorts of mostly irrelevant web sites and wherever else in his usual fit of masturbatory self important ego stroking.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 02, 2019, 07:49:56 AM
I noticed that also. Check this out: This is a recap of the last 50 or so posts over on BG. The forum has deteriorated into the Metron vs. Dr MD attack show across the board with Brig trying to get a word in edgewise:

Isn't that what they all said they wanted?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
I noticed that also. Check this out: This is a recap of the last 50 or so posts over on BG. The forum has deteriorated into the Metron vs. Dr MD attack show across the board with Brig trying to get a word in edgewise:
Update: Brig is in full attack mode alongside the Dr MD. They're now defacing even the non-political threads like Rikki Gins'. They have also attacked Azzerae for posting a thread on S. Africa.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 02, 2019, 02:11:51 PM
What a clusterfuck of losers on there. mv is shadowbanning people after saying that nobody would be banned.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 02:17:53 PM
What a clusterfuck of losers on there. mv is shadowbanning people after saying that nobody would be banned.

He has recently kicked out Tootsie, Za Za, Metron, Donald Noory, Tiny Hands Convention and who knows how many others.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 02, 2019, 02:22:16 PM
He has recently kicked out Tootsie, Za Za, Metron, Donald Noory, Tiny Hands Convention and who knows how many others.

Metron is still posting.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=2023.msg1312122#msg1312122
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 02:30:31 PM
Metron is still posting.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=2023.msg1312122#msg1312122

Why?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on February 02, 2019, 04:48:55 PM
Metron has posted 9,377 times since last May 10.

That's 35 posts a day while others -- even Brig and Myke -- are out leading semi-lives.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 04:53:40 PM
I think Brig's total went down when she no longer had Heather's show to write a full overnight blow by blow recap on.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 02, 2019, 05:05:40 PM
Metron is still posting.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=2023.msg1312122#msg1312122

He may of banned metron dr md and some other today. Will brig call it bellgabhaven now? LOL
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 02, 2019, 05:07:37 PM
Metron has posted 9,377 times since last May 10.

That's 35 posts a day while others -- even Brig and Myke -- are out leading semi-lives.

Did you take away the time the site was shut down
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Brig was doing at least that many when Heather was live, most overnight until the wee hours. I think she did that here with Dave too.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 02, 2019, 06:35:14 PM
He may of banned metron dr md and some other today. Will brig call it bellgabhaven now? LOL
Loooollies really?  That would be enough to make me go around the ban I’ve had imposed on me and drop another deuce or two in that cat box of a forum.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 02, 2019, 06:53:11 PM
losername might be banned to.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 02, 2019, 06:57:06 PM
So who's left, that's a lot.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 02, 2019, 07:24:04 PM
i was wrong losername is not banned
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: rekcuf on February 02, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
lol
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 02, 2019, 09:56:19 PM
Metron is still posting.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=2023.msg1312122#msg1312122
And PMing about a post from November.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 02, 2019, 09:57:13 PM
What a clusterfuck of losers on there. mv is shadowbanning people after saying that nobody would be banned.
Decisions can change.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 02, 2019, 09:58:31 PM
Update: Brig is in full attack mode alongside the Dr MD. They're now defacing even the non-political threads like Rikki Gins'. They have also attacked Azzerae for posting a thread on S. Africa.
What does the moderator get out of Brig?  They have some history?  Is the pain of her worth what pleasure?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 02, 2019, 09:59:08 PM
Metron is a blowhard of the highest order. If you disagree with him, or even just don’t agree loudly enough, he posts repeated mile long replies with quotes from all sorts of mostly irrelevant web sites and wherever else in his usual fit of masturbatory self important ego stroking.
Say hey now, at least he makes me look good!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 02, 2019, 10:59:30 PM
Metron is a blowhard of the highest order. If you disagree with him, or even just don’t agree loudly enough, he posts repeated mile long replies with quotes from all sorts of mostly irrelevant web sites and wherever else in his usual fit of masturbatory self important ego stroking.

LOL. You seem pissed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 02, 2019, 11:27:14 PM
Ya I know.
MD MD, and Metron are the best entertainment BellGab has and that forum is blessed to have them both.  Both of thoses fellows are good men in their own terms and both exceptionally creative.
Personally, I really like both of them.  Perhaps, they are pulling a fast one on the gullible.  If they are, more power to them! ;) ;D :-*
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 02, 2019, 11:33:33 PM
Ya I know.
MD MD, and Metron are the best entertainment BellGab has and that forum is blessed to have them both.  Both of thoses fellows are good men in their own terms and both exceptionally creative.
Personally, I really like both of them.  Perhaps, they are pulling a fast one on the gullible.  If they are, more power to them! ;) ;D :-*

Dr. MD MD can be funny, but he's been a bit of a douche lately, with the incessant gay slurs.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 02, 2019, 11:53:46 PM
Last year, Dr. Toilet Paper chose to go to the Penitentiary here rather than be decent.  In the process, he abandoned the year long rapport he and I had.  My friendship became collateral damage to his ego wars.

Metron harassed me relentless for many months in all threads I visited, simply because he did not like a fact I stated.  Again, I did not state any personal beliefs or opinions, I merely made an observation.  And for that alone, he Bellstalked me, presuming (correctly) that just because I made such an observation, I probably had political beliefs that differed from his.  So much for intellectual freedom.

Last year, they both ganged up on me.  This year, they are fighting disruptively against each other.

Sure, Metron can be warm and MD can be witty, but the way things are going right now, it's not worth it.  If I were a moderator and they were vandalizing all threads, I would put them in a cybercage together with visiting hours.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 03, 2019, 12:04:50 AM
Dr. MD MD can be funny, but he's been a bit of a douche lately, with the incessant gay slurs.

Why are you -2 ?? :o
I just Bumped ya +1  How dare they!!! >:(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 03, 2019, 12:11:22 AM
Last year, Dr. Toilet Paper chose to go to the Penitentiary here rather than be decent.  In the process, he abandoned the year long rapport he and I had.  My friendship became collateral damage to his ego wars.

Metron harassed me relentless for many months in all threads I visited, simply because he did not like a fact I stated.  Again, I did not state any personal beliefs or opinions, I merely made an observation.  And for that alone, he Bellstalked me, presuming (correctly) that just because I made such an observation, I probably had political beliefs that differed from his.  So much for intellectual freedom.

Last year, they both ganged up on me.  This year, they are fighting disruptively against each other.

Sure, Metron can be warm and MD can be witty, but the way things are going right now, it's not worth it.  If I were a moderator and they were vandalizing all threads, I would put them in a cybercage together with visiting hours.

A cybercage fight?  That would be interesting!  As for me, I accept a friendship of a person by their character.  Not their political, or religious stance.  I have no desire, or right, to judge anyone, except by the way they treat me personally.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 03, 2019, 06:38:07 AM
Last year, Dr. Toilet Paper chose to go to the Penitentiary here rather than be decent. In the process, he abandoned the year long rapport he and I had. My friendship became collateral damage to his ego wars.

That sucks.

Metron harassed me relentless for many months in all threads I visited, simply because he did not like a fact I stated. Again, I did not state any personal beliefs or opinions, I merely made an observation. And for that alone, he Bellstalked me, presuming (correctly) that just because I made such an observation, I probably had political beliefs that differed from his. So much for intellectual freedom.

I'm sorry to hear things happened that way, Sofia. I seem to remember a series of similar events unfolding slightly differently, but then again, my memory is prone to flights of fancy, as well as personal bias where my friends are concerned.

You say Metron assumed correctly (about your political beliefs?) I don't think anybody should be intimidated and harassed over differing beliefs, but politics sure does bring out the worst in people. Still, I'm not excusing bad behaviour.

Last year, they both ganged up on me.  This year, they are fighting disruptively against each other.

Sure, Metron can be warm and MD can be witty, but the way things are going right now, it's not worth it.  If I were a moderator and they were vandalizing all threads, I would put them in a cybercage together with visiting hours.

I think some users like to dig up personal information on people and use it against one another later on these forums (I mean there's a tradition of it what with the Heather Wade stuff). Not everybody is raised well enough to know certain lines are not to be crossed though, and others just choose to burn bridges because of the perceived anonymity involved in these sites.

Unfortunately creeps gather kernels of truth here or there and draw their own conclusions because a lot of them are busybody's or losers with nothing better to do. Perhaps they're unemployed, terminally ill, disabled, bitter at their lot in life...have lost the spark in their marriage etc. But this place is not full of the best or brightest when the price of admission is nonexistent.

Sure, Metron can be warm and MD can be witty, but the way things are going right now, it's not worth it.  If I were a moderator and they were vandalizing all threads, I would put them in a cybercage together with visiting hours.

I don't know how your cybercage suggestion serves much by the way of a solution to said problem.

Why are you -2 ?? :o
I just Bumped ya +1  How dare they!!! >:(

I get smited an awful lot. I'm not very well liked. I've made some mistakes in the past, for which I still suffer.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 03, 2019, 08:43:05 AM
No Metron and no Dr. MD posts since yesterday afternoon in the BG land of free speech. Seems very unusual. What happened? Not so free speech anymore? Censorship? Was MV told to moderate the site?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
No Metron and no Dr. MD posts since yesterday afternoon in the BG land of free speech. Seems very unusual. What happened? Not so free speech anymore? Censorship? Was MV told to moderate the site?
Well you can assume the couple of autistic 40 year olds didn’t just decide to stop their pointless sissy slap fight willingly.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: juan on February 03, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
No Metron and no Dr. MD posts since yesterday afternoon in the BG land of free speech. Seems very unusual. What happened? Not so free speech anymore? Censorship? Was MV told to moderate the site?
Obviously White Crow’s handlers made him get MV under control.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: nxoeed on February 03, 2019, 12:55:19 PM
I'm back after about eight months of not checking this. Fill me in. The old board is back and the two don't get along? Does that mean I have to log into two separate places to say hi to old friends and then disappear for another eight months? Or do both post to both places?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: albrecht on February 03, 2019, 01:26:40 PM
I'm back after about eight months of not checking this. Fill me in. The old board is back and the two don't get along? Does that mean I have to log into two separate places to say hi to old friends and then disappear for another eight months? Or do both post to both places?

Welcome back. I like your art and those cool posters back in the golden days when we thought Art would return and bring back the good shows. Since you've been gone to sum up: lots of insanity, drama, and hilarity. With a bunch of speculation, feuding, banning, insulting, and high-strangeness.  Coupled with politics, conspiracies, and accusations.And lots of youtube videos and memes. And two forums, after a shutdown, with apparent strife between them- at least for some.  And Mr.Fidget is nowhere to be found on either board.  Be well and welcome back to both or, as some have, pick a side.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: nxoeed on February 03, 2019, 01:32:19 PM
Welcome back. I like your art and those cool posters back in the golden days when we thought Art would return and bring back the good shows. Since you've been gone to sum up: lots of insanity, drama, and hilarity. With a bunch of speculation, feuding, banning, insulting, and high-strangeness.  Coupled with politics, conspiracies, and accusations.And lots of youtube videos and memes. And two forums, after a shutdown, with apparent strife between them- at least for some.  And Mr.Fidget is nowhere to be found on either board.  Be well and welcome back to both or, as some have, pick a side.

Thanks Albrecht. I like you guys and I like them too, so I'll probably say hi on both. Also thank you very kindly.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 03, 2019, 02:06:31 PM
What does the moderator get out of Brig?  They have some history?  Is the pain of her worth what pleasure?
I don't know the answers, only speculation. But there must be history as MV said in his last podcast when Brig called in that he's traveling up to Niagara Falls to stay with her this summer. She seemed very happy to hear that. Was it an act? Who knows? Strange days.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 03, 2019, 02:12:20 PM
Last year, Dr. Toilet Paper chose to go to the Penitentiary here rather than be decent.  In the process, he abandoned the year long rapport he and I had.  My friendship became collateral damage to his ego wars.

Metron harassed me relentless for many months in all threads I visited, simply because he did not like a fact I stated.  Again, I did not state any personal beliefs or opinions, I merely made an observation.  And for that alone, he Bellstalked me, presuming (correctly) that just because I made such an observation, I probably had political beliefs that differed from his.  So much for intellectual freedom.

Last year, they both ganged up on me.  This year, they are fighting disruptively against each other.

Sure, Metron can be warm and MD can be witty, but the way things are going right now, it's not worth it.  If I were a moderator and they were vandalizing all threads, I would put them in a cybercage together with visiting hours.

Like Bart's petting zoo? If you read back the past 2 days there was an effort made to contain the fight to one thread. MD would have none of it and expanded the battle to threads it had never been in before. Those threads were the ones MV said he liked to read. Now they're both gone. 1+1=0
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 03, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
That sucks.

I'm sorry to hear things happened that way, Sofia. I seem to remember a series of similar events unfolding slightly differently, but then again, my memory is prone to flights of fancy, as well as personal bias where my friends are concerned.

You say Metron assumed correctly (about your political beliefs?) I don't think anybody should be intimidated and harassed over differing beliefs, but politics sure does bring out the worst in people. Still, I'm not excusing bad behaviour.

This is why we have subject labels on the threads. That way political boxing occurs in the political boxing ring that it belongs in and kitty kat pictures go elsewhere. If you know what I mean. When it bleeds out across an entire forum the forum suffers.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 03, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
Obviously White Crow’s handlers made him get MV under control.
I'm somewhat new here, what is the deal with White Crow and MV? There was some speculation over there that WC was on his death bed. But then I saw a message from him so it seems not, or who knows?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 03, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
This is why we have subject labels on the threads. That way political boxing occurs in the political boxing ring that it belongs in and kitty kat pictures go elsewhere. If you know what I mean. When it bleeds out across an entire forum the forum suffers.

Sofia says Metron gave her a hard time, but having gotten to know Metron, I just don't want to believe it.

Yes, I guess its best for threads to be contained to their headers. But ... not being a moderator myself, it doesn't grate my gears all that much if stuff gets off topic.

I mean, BellGab is an uncontrollable entity, and it works.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 03, 2019, 03:32:35 PM
Sofia says Metron gave her a hard time, but having gotten to know Metron, I just don't want to believe it.

Yes, I guess its best for threads to be contained to their headers. But ... not being a moderator myself, it doesn't grate my gears all that much if stuff gets off topic.

I mean, BellGab is an uncontrollable entity, and it works.
Metron and MD at one time made a nasty pair. I think they fed off each other until something blew that up so it's another example of where a forum's culture can guide behavior. In a moderated forum that thing is  blunted. If you read much Metron you can see he was passionate about Trump and a lot of other subjects there. MD just became a copy machine for gay insults. Gays don't need to be insulted any more than straights do. Super Bowl time, have a good evening sir.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 03, 2019, 04:33:00 PM
I miss reminding MD he is the dumbest poster on Bellgab
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 03, 2019, 05:35:22 PM
I'll be honest. I haven't prayed for white crow. Can't say I have any plans for doing such a thing.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: juan on February 03, 2019, 06:12:01 PM
I'll be honest. I haven't prayed for white crow. Can't say I have any plans for doing such a thing.
If he could afford $20k for Bellgab, White Crow can afford a full-time prayer team.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 03, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
I miss reminding MD he is the dumbest poster on Bellgab

You almost never see "miss" and "MD" in the same sentence. Missing that hateful dunce is akin to missing a brain tumor.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 03, 2019, 08:49:11 PM
Did mv get pissed off when metron let it out that mv's business is failing and his family left him?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 03, 2019, 08:52:42 PM
I don't know the answers, only speculation. But there must be history as MV said in his last podcast when Brig called in that he's traveling up to Niagara Falls to stay with her this summer. She seemed very happy to hear that. Was it an act? Who knows? Strange days.

Mv isn't shy about telling people what he really thinks about brig starrmountain or losername. Mv doesn't like most people on his forum and he makes fun of people who make big donations.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 03, 2019, 11:08:08 PM
I'll be honest. I haven't prayed for white crow. Can't say I have any plans for doing such a thing.
Have you ever interacted with him?  One night he and I interacted a lot - trying to help another member.  It was a triumph of sorts.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 03, 2019, 11:09:15 PM
I'm somewhat new here, what is the deal with White Crow and MV? There was some speculation over there that WC was on his death bed. But then I saw a message from him so it seems not, or who knows?
White Crow had been very sick.  He did make a come back.  But I haven't seen him now for a while.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 03, 2019, 11:10:44 PM
I don't know the answers, only speculation. But there must be history as MV said in his last podcast when Brig called in that he's traveling up to Niagara Falls to stay with her this summer. She seemed very happy to hear that. Was it an act? Who knows? Strange days.
Well, she probably treats him decently, unlike how she treats the rest of us.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 03, 2019, 11:12:37 PM
Like Bart's petting zoo? If you read back the past 2 days there was an effort made to contain the fight to one thread. MD would have none of it and expanded the battle to threads it had never been in before. Those threads were the ones MV said he liked to read. Now they're both gone. 1+1=0
Thank you for the update.  They asked for any trouble they got.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 03, 2019, 11:19:18 PM
That sucks.

I'm sorry to hear things happened that way, Sofia. I seem to remember a series of similar events unfolding slightly differently, but then again, my memory is prone to flights of fancy, as well as personal bias where my friends are concerned.

You say Metron assumed correctly (about your political beliefs?) I don't think anybody should be intimidated and harassed over differing beliefs, but politics sure does bring out the worst in people. Still, I'm not excusing bad behaviour.

I think some users like to dig up personal information on people and use it against one another later on these forums (I mean there's a tradition of it what with the Heather Wade stuff). Not everybody is raised well enough to know certain lines are not to be crossed though, and others just choose to burn bridges because of the perceived anonymity involved in these sites.

Unfortunately creeps gather kernels of truth here or there and draw their own conclusions because a lot of them are busybody's or losers with nothing better to do. Perhaps they're unemployed, terminally ill, disabled, bitter at their lot in life...have lost the spark in their marriage etc. But this place is not full of the best or brightest when the price of admission is nonexistent.

I don't know how your cybercage suggestion serves much by the way of a solution to said problem.

I get smited an awful lot. I'm not very well liked. I've made some mistakes in the past, for which I still suffer.
Well, thanks for the acknowledgement.  Yes, this was how I remember Metron hounding me - although he posts so much maybe I missed something.  And yes, politics does bring out the worst in people who disagree.  As for cybercages, like Bart's petting zoo, I was thinking they would only be able to talk to each other except when visitors come.  In other words, they would only have access to one thread.

Yes, I haven't known you very long.  In the beginning, I wasn't sure if I could relate to you but seems to be going along fine now.  At least you are a thinker and decent!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 12:32:38 AM
Well, thanks for the acknowledgement.  Yes, this was how I remember Metron hounding me - although he posts so much maybe I missed something.  And yes, politics does bring out the worst in people who disagree.  As for cybercages, like Bart's petting zoo, I was thinking they would only be able to talk to each other except when visitors come.  In other words, they would only have access to one thread.

Yes, I haven't known you very long.  In the beginning, I wasn't sure if I could relate to you but seems to be going along fine now.  At least you are a thinker and decent!

Well, I'm thrilled you're giving me a chance, a lot of us have more in common than we realize.

Let me just make one thing in particular abundantly clear, Metron is quite possibly my closest friend in all of either BG or EG. Seems MIA now, which is a shame, but I do believe Dr. MD MD got Metron in a lot of trouble.

I won't overlook that Metron harangued you, and will most certainly ask Metron about that when I again am able to contact Metron. Unfortunately I think Metron's been banned from BG (not sure if so) ... But from what I've been told here, it seems to have occurred for valid reason. But I will have to discuss it directly with Metron.

Once I have done so, you have my word I won't skew the facts solely due to my own personal liking for my dear friend. After all, real friends don't just defend one another regardless or bad behaviour, especially towards others ... Well, in my world at least.

I'll admit I miss Dr. MD MD over at BG. Will he be back? Perhaps so, perhaps not. Its only been a day or so, maybe none of these people have been barred and we're all assuming its so.

One last thing: I enjoy your thread about Living with Grandma's Daughter, immensely. We'll see what Metron's story is regarding the harassment/insults aimed at you.

I'll chat again as soon as I know.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 04, 2019, 12:53:37 AM
Well, I'm thrilled you're giving me a chance, a lot of us have more in common than we realize.

Let me just make one thing in particular abundantly clear, Metron is quite possibly my closest friend in all of either BG or EG. Seems MIA now, which is a shame, but I do believe Dr. MD MD got Metron in a lot of trouble.

I won't overlook that Metron harangued you, and will most certainly ask Metron about that when I again am able to contact Metron. Unfortunately I think Metron's been banned from BG (not sure if so) ... But from what I've been told here, it seems to have occurred for valid reason. But I will have to discuss it directly with Metron.

Once I have done so, you have my word I won't skew the facts solely due to my own personal liking for my dear friend. After all, real friends don't just defend one another regardless or bad behaviour, especially towards others ... Well, in my world at least.

I'll admit I miss Dr. MD MD over at BG. Will he be back? Perhaps so, perhaps not. Its only been a day or so, maybe none of these people have been barred and we're all assuming its so.

One last thing: I enjoy your thread about Living with Grandma's Daughter, immensely. We'll see what Metron's story is regarding the harassment/insults aimed at you.

I'll chat again as soon as I know.
Metron does seem sociable again, like he was when I met him.  Inbetween, though, he went through a time when he just didn't seem civil.  Thanks for liking my thread - it's still out there.  Metron has resumed civility with me, but yes he would remember last year.

Most people here are partisan.  As in, loyal to their avatar friends regardless of the principles involved.  Noble is not a very popular trait here, but good for you.  I tend to put principles above personalities too, but not as much as I would like here, because posters are very sensitive.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 02:16:06 AM
Metron does seem sociable again, like he was when I met him. In between, though, he went through a time when he just didn't seem civil. Thanks for liking my thread - it's still out there. Metron has resumed civility with me, but yes he would remember last year.

Are you in touch with Metron?

I only ask because I can't seem to find Metron here ...

Most people here are partisan. As in, loyal to their avatar friends regardless of the principles involved. Noble is not a very popular trait here, but good for you. I tend to put principles above personalities too, but not as much as I would like here, because posters are very sensitive.

Yes, that's silly. Politics are politics, and none of it is pure IMHO. Its

Its too bad that people are so sensitive (but so can I be, at times, so its somewhat understandable in certain circumstances).


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 02:58:12 AM
BG needs to stop coveting EG and it’s stuff. The older cousin is very jealous.

Bart is right BG is now EG’s zoo. I pop over to give an opinion or two over there and I never (here’s me jinxing myself) problems, and if they have been horrible abut me over there I haven’t read/listened and have no intention of going and looking for it. When I have seen nastiness it’s been pretty shitty and without reason.

People made a choice, they prefer somfortable chairs and good conversation rather than people shitting up all the threads.

At least BG is back now so those people who want to go over there can do so now, and we have the info from all those threads accessible.

I must prefer EG and am loyal to Barthur. That doesn’t mean I won’t go over there from time to time.

And no, I don’t know who he is and I don’t give two shits, he is Barthur and that’s good enough for me.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 03:27:17 AM
BG needs to stop coveting EG and it’s stuff. The older cousin is very jealous.

LOL, how so? What's being coveted?

Bart is right BG is now EG’s zoo. I pop over to give an opinion or two over there and I never (here’s me jinxing myself) problems, and if they have been horrible abut me over there I haven’t read/listened and have no intention of going and looking for it. When I have seen nastiness it’s been pretty shitty and without reason.

Yeah, you don't seem very active there. I would like it if you were around more there ... but I come over here so we can chat. Indeed, lots of horrible at ones fingers there. Some of us masochists enjoy the mud wrestle ... but one can come away with a war wound or 2.

People made a choice, they prefer somfortable chairs and good conversation rather than people shitting up all the threads.

I must have a high tolerance for such behaviour, because it hasn't gotten to me yet. And I've been slapped around a good deal.

And no, I don’t know who [Bart] is and I don’t give two shits, he is Barthur and that’s good enough for me.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 03:57:25 AM
LOL, how so? What's being coveted?

Yeah, you don't seem very active there. I would like it if you were around more there ... but I come over here so we can chat. Indeed, lots of horrible at ones fingers there. Some of us masochists enjoy the mud wrestle ... but one can come away with a war wound or 2.

I must have a high tolerance for such behaviour, because it hasn't gotten to me yet. And I've been slapped around a good deal.

Agreed.

That’s the thing .. I am not sure what they covet - they claim to not like the majority of posters, but talk an awful lot about them. Maybe the covet the life here.

I dunno.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 04:03:23 AM
That’s the thing .. I am not sure what they covet - they claim to not like the majority of posters, but talk an awful lot about them. Maybe the covet the life here.

I dunno.

But ... but ... but ... EllGab came after BellGab.

I hear you though. I get what you're saying.

I've posted about EllGab members, sure. I took ferocious aim at Gravity Sucks (that went unchallenged), I spoke up about Little Sean, I discussed and shared theories on Pony Boy Sunset. When I have questions regarding yourself, I usually just ask you ... because you're forthcoming.

I personally don't hide my interest in EllGab users though. I'm pretty out in the open about it. Is that coveting?

Covet
Verb

Yearn to possess (something, especially something belonging to another).
"I covet one of their smart bags"

Synonyms: desire, be consumed with desire for, crave, have one's heart set on; want, wish for, long for, yearn for, dream of, aspire to, hanker for, hanker after, hunger after/for, thirst for, ache for, fancy, burn for, pant for
"people still coveted things which didn't belong to them"



Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 04:55:32 AM
But ... but ... but ... EllGab came after BellGab.

I hear you though. I get what you're saying.

I've posted about EllGab members, sure. I took ferocious aim at Gravity Sucks (that went unchallenged), I spoke up about Little Sean, I discussed and shared theories on Pony Boy Sunset. When I have questions regarding yourself, I usually just ask you ... because you're forthcoming.

I personally don't hide my interest in EllGab users though. I'm pretty out in the open about it. Is that coveting?

Covet
Verb

Yearn to possess (something, especially something belonging to another).
"I covet one of their smart bags"

Synonyms: desire, be consumed with desire for, crave, have one's heart set on; want, wish for, long for, yearn for, dream of, aspire to, hanker for, hanker after, hunger after/for, thirst for, ache for, fancy, burn for, pant for
"people still coveted things which didn't belong to them"





Maybe they want EG users to go over there.

 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 05:45:26 AM
Maybe they want EG users to go over there.

I don't think so. I've observed a lot of BellGabber's make dismissive remarks about EllGabber's needing a "safe space", claiming that this site serves as one. Usually, BellGabber's assert that it is freer with regards to speech. Let me just say however, those aren't exactly my assertions. I don't buy too deeply into the politicization of either forum.

I speak for myself when I say I'd like to see you more over there, for discussions sake - although I'm not sure if that's what other BellGabber's want.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 07:07:00 AM
I don't think so. I've observed a lot of BellGabber's make dismissive remarks about EllGabber's needing a "safe space", claiming that this site serves as one. Usually, BellGabber's assert that it is freer with regards to speech. Let me just say however, those aren't exactly my assertions. I don't buy too deeply into the politicization of either forum.

I speak for myself when I say I'd like to see you more over there, for discussions sake - although I'm not sure if that's what other BellGabber's want.



Can’t cross the streams too much.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 07:08:07 AM
Can’t cross the streams too much.

I'm just going to simplify things and chat to you here.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 04, 2019, 07:09:35 AM
I think someone’s just back over here because half his loudmouth mutual admiration society was given the boot.  Having withdrawals from not hearing the sound of his own voice enough.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
I think someone’s just back over here because half his loudmouth mutual admiration society was given the boot. Having withdrawals from not hearing the sound of his own voice enough.

In order to be back, one has to have left. Whereas, I've been around on both sites all along. Unlike you, I don't need those I associate with to mirror my opinions or ideas. So save your scorn for someone who cares. A while back, I walked away from your unceasing onslaught, yet here you are, at it again.

How are you enjoying EllGab? It appears your profile has been appropriately adorned with the scat you've been known to wallow in.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 04, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
Lol yes. That three lines or so of text I posted is a renewed “unceasing onslaught”. Have a bright sunshiny day in the third world. Save your good guy act for someone more naive.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: AutumnRain on February 04, 2019, 08:06:52 AM
hi @Azzerae
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Hi @AutumnRain
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 08:41:04 AM
BG needs to stop coveting EG and it’s stuff. The older cousin is very jealous.

Bart is right BG is now EG’s zoo. I pop over to give an opinion or two over there and I never (here’s me jinxing myself) problems, and if they have been horrible abut me over there I haven’t read/listened and have no intention of going and looking for it. When I have seen nastiness it’s been pretty shitty and without reason.

People made a choice, they prefer somfortable chairs and good conversation rather than people shitting up all the threads.

At least BG is back now so those people who want to go over there can do so now, and we have the info from all those threads accessible.

I must prefer EG and am loyal to Barthur. That doesn’t mean I won’t go over there from time to time.

And no, I don’t know who he is and I don’t give two shits, he is Barthur and that’s good enough for me.
+1 Another thing people should not forget is that Bart Ell essentially saved the legacy of Bellgab by quickly picking up the pieces when MV quit and shut down Bellgab without any notice. Bart saved the legacy. He created something better. That is why there are always many more active participating members here on Ellgab.

It is obvious that Bellgab is envious of Ellgab's success. Their attempts to tear down Ellgab and brand it as anti-free speech is laughable, especially now that Bellgab seems to be censoring members. MV was told to moderate Bellgab and it looks like it is happening. Wonder how the always anti-censorship and 100% free speech Bellgabbers feel about it now? Wonder how MV feels about being a site m-o-d-e-r-a-t-o-r?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
Bart Ell essentially saved the legacy of Bellgab by quickly picking up the pieces when MV quit and shut down Bellgab without any notice. Bart saved the legacy. He created something better. That is why there are always many more active participating members here on Ellgab.

Interesting perspective!  :)

Were you a long time BellGabber before the big shutdown, @MaxPower?

It is obvious that Bellgab is envious of Ellgab's success.

I respectfully disagree.

Their attempts to tear down Ellgab and brand it as anti-free speech is laughable, especially now that Bellgab seems to be censoring members. MV was told to moderate Bellgab and it looks like it is happening. Wonder how the always anti-censorship and 100% free speech Bellgabbers feel about it now? Wonder how MV feels about being a site m-o-d-e-r-a-t-o-r?

A lot of those free speech absolutist types are tied to their extreme political opinions, and try to out-right-wing each other, in my estimation. I think its all hubris, quite frankly.

Please don't read my tone as combative, I'm awfully intrigued by this discussion and eager to hear your views if you're willing to have a dialogue.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Ms. C on February 04, 2019, 10:39:25 AM
White Crow had been very sick.  He did make a come back.  But I haven't seen him now for a while.

Nope!  White Crow was not very sick.  All a weird trolling thingy ...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 11:06:57 AM
Please don't read my tone as combative, I'm awfully intrigued by this discussion and eager to hear your views if you're willing to have a dialogue.
Were you a long time BellGabber before the big shutdown, @MaxPower?
I don't see your thoughts as being combative at all. I do understand what you are saying.
I was active again on Bellgab since May of last year.

A lot of those free speech absolutist types are tied to their extreme political opinions, and try to out-right-wing each other, in my estimation. I think its all hubris, quite frankly.
You are probably right about that. My concern was the attacks on Ellgab about being Nazi-like or anti-free speech. I am coming from a viewpoint that no site is completely free speech and censor free. Moderating a site and even banning is a necessary evil. Years ago, I was a moderator on a well-known personality's forum for many years. I never liked having to ban someone or removing someone's posts but sometimes it was necessary as there are people out there that will do everything they can to tear something down. I think many people don't realize that certain posts (contested copyright infringement, illegal content, etc.) must be removed, otherwise the forum owner is legally liable. Censorship? Yes, but necessary. Forum's will also have their own rules. I think Bellgab even has a rule about posting other's personal information.

Looking at the Dr MD MD vs Metron battle on Bellgab, apparently both have been banned for now. That was necessary and also unfortunate. Battles like the one they had going, especially when they migrate to other topics in a forum, will drive people away. I don't know why it took so long as that battle was brewing and deteriorating for some time.

I remember when Metron first arrived on Bellgab. It would always be interesting to login and see what Metron had to say. Metron was a breath of fresh air and had some really interesting posts. I even nominated Metron for "BellGabber Most Likely To Succeed 2018" in that thread of the same name in June of last year before the shutdown. I don't know what happened to Metron. I do hope Metron will be back at some point as the Metron we used to know in the earlier days. I don't really know about Dr MD MD's history and if something is going on with him causing his part in that battle.



Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 11:14:54 AM
Nope!  White Crow was not very sick.  All a weird trolling thingy ...
I was wondering if that was real or not and also if White Crow was/is another identity.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 11:18:46 AM
I don't see your thoughts as being combative at all. I do understand what you are saying. I was active again on Bellgab since May of last year.

Oh cool, great!

You are probably right about that. My concern was the attacks on Ellgab about being Nazi-like or anti-free speech. I am coming from a viewpoint that no site is completely free speech and censor free. Moderating a site and even banning is a necessary evil.

I agree with you completely.

Years ago, I was a moderator on a well-known personality's forum for many years. I never liked having to ban someone or removing someone's posts but sometimes it was necessary as there are people out there that will do everything they can to tear something down. I think many people don't realize that certain posts (contested copyright infringement, illegal content, etc.) must be removed, otherwise the forum owner is legally liable. Censorship? Yes, but necessary. Forum's will also have their own rules. I think Bellgab even has a rule about posting other's personal information.

Looking at the Dr MD MD vs Metron battle on Bellgab, apparently both have been banned for now. That was necessary and also unfortunate. Battles like the one they had going, especially when they migrate to other topics in a forum, will drive people away. I don't know why it took so long as that battle was brewing and deteriorating for some time.

I actually attempted to diffuse the situation, but MD wasn't having it.

I remember when Metron first arrived on Bellgab. It would always be interesting to login and see what Metron had to say. Metron was a breath of fresh air and had some really interesting posts. I even nominated Metron for "BellGabber Most Likely To Succeed 2018" in that thread of the same name. I don't know what happened to Metron. I do hope Metron will be back at some point as the Metron we used to know in the earlier days. I don't really know about Dr MD MD's history and if something is going on with him causing his part in that battle.

Yeah. Metron sure was a fascinating individual. I also looked forward to reading his take on things. I'm gonna miss him.  :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 11:35:15 AM
You almost never see "miss" and "MD" in the same sentence. Missing that hateful dunce is akin to missing a brain tumor.
That's genuinely funny and truthy.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 11:36:56 AM
Mv isn't shy about telling people what he really thinks about brig starrmountain or losername. Mv doesn't like most people on his forum and he makes fun of people who make big donations.
Running a troll farm must be a different kind of hobby.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 11:38:41 AM
White Crow had been very sick.  He did make a come back.  But I haven't seen him now for a while.

Well, she probably treats him decently, unlike how she treats the rest of us.

Thanks, Starr's thinking on her is confirmed. Hope White Crow is on the mend.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
I don't think so. I've observed a lot of BellGabber's make dismissive remarks about EllGabber's needing a "safe space", claiming that this site serves as one. Usually, BellGabber's assert that it is freer with regards to speech. Let me just say however, those aren't exactly my assertions. I don't buy too deeply into the politicization of either forum.

I speak for myself when I say I'd like to see you more over there, for discussions sake - although I'm not sure if that's what other BellGabber's want.
Metron was saying that the forums had a break with Bellgab becoming more male dominated and that it was not for the better for what that's worth. I think it is mostly true. If a forum's key female member is named Brig nothing good can follow.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 11:54:32 AM
I don't see your thoughts as being combative at all. I do understand what you are saying.
I was active again on Bellgab since May of last year.
You are probably right about that. My concern was the attacks on Ellgab about being Nazi-like or anti-free speech. I am coming from a viewpoint that no site is completely free speech and censor free. Moderating a site and even banning is a necessary evil. Years ago, I was a moderator on a well-known personality's forum for many years. I never liked having to ban someone or removing someone's posts but sometimes it was necessary as there are people out there that will do everything they can to tear something down. I think many people don't realize that certain posts (contested copyright infringement, illegal content, etc.) must be removed, otherwise the forum owner is legally liable. Censorship? Yes, but necessary. Forum's will also have their own rules. I think Bellgab even has a rule about posting other's personal information.

Looking at the Dr MD MD vs Metron battle on Bellgab, apparently both have been banned for now. That was necessary and also unfortunate. Battles like the one they had going, especially when they migrate to other topics in a forum, will drive people away. I don't know why it took so long as that battle was brewing and deteriorating for some time.

I remember when Metron first arrived on Bellgab. It would always be interesting to login and see what Metron had to say. Metron was a breath of fresh air and had some really interesting posts. I even nominated Metron for "BellGabber Most Likely To Succeed 2018" in that thread of the same name in June of last year before the shutdown. I don't know what happened to Metron. I do hope Metron will be back at some point as the Metron we used to know in the earlier days. I don't really know about Dr MD MD's history and if something is going on with him causing his part in that battle.
Metron was co-opted by MD and apparently realized it. When he called MD out for trying to do what he called "political purity tests" among the conservative posters MD flipped right out and a war ensued. The original Metron you mention never went completely away, he simply posted in non-political threads with Weiner and Tootsie before she was banned. MD then went and trashed those threads and Weiner quit for good.

So what is the purpose of Bellgab? This forum supports MITD, kitty kat talk and the paranormal. Bellgab is like a cockfighting ring. But that's MV's design, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 04, 2019, 11:56:04 AM
Metron was co-opted by MD and apparently realized it. When he called MD out for trying to do what he called "political purity tests" among the conservative posters MD flipped right out and a war ensued. The original Metron you mention never went completely away, he simply posted in non-political threads with Weiner and Tootsie before she was banned. MD then went and trashed those threads and Weiner quit for good.

So what is the purpose of Bellgab? This forum supports MITD, kitty kat talk and the paranormal. Bellgab is like a cockfighting ring. But that's MV's design, isn't it?

Hi Metron. Glad to see you found a way to post again. Keep posting like this and Bart might not send you to the zoo again.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 12:20:19 PM
Sarcasm. Its the lowest form of wit!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 12:36:19 PM
Hi Metron. Glad to see you found a way to post again. Keep posting like this and Bart might not send you to the zoo again.
Hi GS, are we collecting mac addys. again?   :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 12:53:36 PM
So what is the purpose of Bellgab? This forum supports MITD, kitty kat talk and the paranormal. Bellgab is like a cockfighting ring. But that's MV's design, isn't it?
Is it the design MV wants? I don't know. I don't know if MV even knows. It's difficult to believe MV is happy with the way things have gone at Bellgab since it was reopened.

One big difference between Ellgab and Bellgab is that Bart seems to have fun contributing to and running Ellgab. By contrast, MV seems to loathe having to run Bellgab almost as if it is a love/hate relationship. No one is making any real money with these forums, so if someone is not having fun running them, what is the point?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:01:39 PM
Is it the design MV wants? I don't know. I don't know if MV even knows. It's difficult to believe MV is happy with the way things have gone at Bellgab since it was reopened.

As a bastion of "free speech" it became only Fight Club.

As a purveyor of Art's legacy it had some moments, but not many.

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One difference between Ellgab and Bellgab is that Bart seems to have fun contributing to and running Ellgab. By contrast, MV seems to loathe having to run Bellgab almost as if it is a love/hate relationship. No one is making any real money with these forums, so if someone is not having fun running them, what is the point?

I wouldn't say there's no money being made, not with Adsense and plenty of eyeballs and content:

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 01:03:51 PM
It's difficult to believe MV is happy with the way things have gone at Bellgab since it was reopened.

One big difference between Ellgab and Bellgab is that Bart seems to have fun contributing to and running Ellgab. By contrast, MV seems to loathe having to run Bellgab almost as if it is a love/hate relationship. No one is making any real money with these forums, so if someone is not having fun running them, what is the point?

I find it so strange that you think MV dislikes BellGab being up again.  ???

Surely if he couldn't stand it, it would be closed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:05:13 PM
I think he loves the click-through bucks, as to the rest of it...probably more of a pain than anything. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
I have to admit that it’s odd that one of the big complaints over on BG about EG was that people were banned willy nilly as it were...now I don’t follow the stats on who is banned on EG (no idea how one would do that) but it would appear the the majority of regular posters do manage to be able to carry on unbanned, unlike the ban fest that seems to be happening over on BG.

Bart is not a dictator, we know what is acceptable and what isn’t, and we are respectful of one another. If that means it’s a bit boring ...well it appears to be a lot more fun here than it does on BG currently.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
I think he loves the click-through bucks, as to the rest of it...probably more of a pain than anything. :-\

I may just ask him myself.  :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 01:21:17 PM
I have to admit that it’s odd that one of the big complaints over on BG about EG was that people were banned willy nilly as it were...now I don’t follow the stats on who is banned on EG (no idea how one would do that) but it would appear the the majority of regular posters do manage to be able to carry on unbanned, unlike the ban fest that seems to be happening over on BG.

Bart is not a dictator, we know what is acceptable and what isn’t, and we are respectful of one another. If that means it’s a bit boring ...well it appears to be a lot more fun here than it does on BG currently.

LMFAO! Willy nilly? Did you read some of the epithets that were permitted for weeks before the gavel came down? Nothing has changed, and bannings haven’t ramped up any great deal of late. It’s just that certain users have unraveled.

Perhaps it was that blood moon, or something in the stars. I just think certain EllGabber’s like to say MV is X, MV is Y.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:22:04 PM
I may just ask him myself.  :)
And you may find yourself ignored or even banned - once Brig takes offense you it will end swiftly, trust me... :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 01:26:37 PM
LMFAO! Willy nilly? Did you read some of the epithets that were permitted for weeks before the gavel came down? Nothing has changed, and bannings haven’t ramped up any great deal of late. It’s just that certain users have unraveled.

Perhaps it was that blood moon, or something in the stars. I just think certain EllGabber’s like to say MV is X, MV is Y.

I don’t really know or even had any interaction with MV. Just seems like every week someone is moaning about one ban or another.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: AutumnRain on February 04, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
And you may find yourself ignored or even banned - once Brig takes offense you it will end swiftly, trust me... :o
Really? Should I be cautious?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 04, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
Really? Should I be cautious?

Once you understand @brig you might love her or you might just ignore her. Overall she is a good egg.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 01:32:52 PM
I find it so strange that you think MV dislikes BellGab being up again.  ???

Surely if he couldn't stand it, it would be closed.
He may like Bellgab being reopened, but does he like the way it is going? I am asking because I don't really know the answer. I certainly can't speak for him but it seems like he is different now then he was from before the shutdown. It just doesn't seem like he is having fun with it.

If by chance he is happy with it now, then more power to him. However, if he is not happy with it, he needs to decide what direction he wants it to go, take action, and change it. Perhaps he is in that gray area where it's not good enough to be happy with it but it is not bad enough to do anything about it (I would much rather be in the "it's bad enough" position than that gray middle area because the "bad enough" position gives me leverage to make myself change a bad situation).

I will say that my viewpoint comes from years of forum experience and my emphasis is on member participation, member experience, and metrics necessary for a forum's growth and survival. Maybe MV is happy with the current forum and numbers. For me with my viewpoint, I would not be.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:35:04 PM
I have to admit that it’s odd that one of the big complaints over on BG about EG was that people were banned willy nilly as it were...now I don’t follow the stats on who is banned on EG (no idea how one would do that) but it would appear the the majority of regular posters do manage to be able to carry on unbanned, unlike the ban fest that seems to be happening over on BG.

Point taken - Bellgab is generally Fight Club. And historically wasn't it mostly so in years past when you were there?

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Bart is not a dictator, we know what is acceptable and what isn’t, and we are respectful of one another. If that means it’s a bit boring ...well it appears to be a lot more fun here than it does on BG currently.
It's his server, so it's his call, just as MV does on Bellgab.

The notion of BG as some bastion of "free speech" was basically coined by Dr. Md. as a cudgel to bludgeon others with in the name of nothing more than his own internal anger. He had few if any things to say about Art, Heather, and certainly not the paranormal. He loathed Dave with a passion unrelated to anything Dave ever did to him or anyone else for that matter. It's fine to dislike the MITD format due to shorter form interviews, but Md. was way past that. And when he partnered with Brig the bans came rapidly and regularly. But it's MV's private zoo, so there is no first amendment protection nor mandate.  :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
I think he loves the click-through bucks, as to the rest of it...probably more of a pain than anything. :-\
With the numbers for these forums, I find it difficult to believe any significant money is being made. So if you are running a forum like these, you need to have fun with it and/or view it as a public service.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
I don’t really know or even had any interaction with MV. Just seems like every week someone is moaning about one ban or another.

He’s actually a very nice, genuine, down to earth fellow. Eccentric, most certainly, but overall a sweet person with a good heart. He can be hard too, at times, but I’d say that’s because of how shitty people out there are in the real world ... it can leave the best of us jaded, can it not?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 04, 2019, 01:41:03 PM
Point taken - Bellgab is generally Fight Club. And historically wasn't it mostly so in years past when you were there?
It's his server, so it's his call, just as MV does on Bellgab.

The notion of BG as some bastion of "free speech" was basically coined by Dr. Md. as a cudgel to bludgeon others with in the name of nothing more than his own internal anger. He had few if any things to say about Art, Heather, and certainly not the paranormal. He loathed Dave with a passion unrelated to anything Dave ever did to him or anyone else for that matter. It's fine to dislike the MITD format due to shorter form interviews, but Md. was way past that. And when he partnered with Brig the bans came rapidly and regularly. But it's MV's private zoo, so there is no first amendment protection nor mandate.  :-X

It was rough and ready for sure, maybe the microcosm that it is now I notice the grumbling about bans more, the pool is shallower so you hear more flapping from the fishies :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
He may like Bellgab being reopened, but does he like the way it is going? I am asking because I don't really know the answer. I certainly can't speak for him but it seems like he is different now then he was from before the shutdown. It just doesn't seem like he is having fun with it.

If by chance he is happy with it now, then more power to him. However, if he is not happy with it, he needs to decide what direction he wants it to go, take action, and change it. Perhaps he is in that gray area where it's not good enough to be happy with it but it is not bad enough to do anything about it (I would much rather be in the "it's bad enough" position than that gray middle area because the "bad enough" position gives me leverage to make myself change a bad situation).

I will say that my viewpoint comes from years of forum experience and my emphasis is on member participation, member experience, and metrics necessary for a forum's growth and survival. Maybe MV is happy with the current forum and numbers. For me with my viewpoint, I would not be.
Consider, save for visits from Starr, Dh and Roswells, Art there was little regular feminine activity except Brig's KON summaries. After Heather went dark Brig lost her zeitgeist and had to branch out, to... ::)

Remember back when the summer shutdown came the ladies left and opted ftmp not to return? That rendered the forum down to primarily male energy. Ever been to dog park and seen an unstable fear biter? That was Dr. Md. I think MV ran with that as long as he could and must have seen forum metrics dwindle. It was pretty clear that even cat talk was sniffed at when Spookcat finally left. So your gray area observation is apt.

Do you feel that these types of forums require a bonded podcast or radio audience in order to achieve and retain critical mass?

By observation Bart seems to have invested in quite a few more toys here and went all in for the X-mas wootacular, so that has to have had some impact on members staying sticky, yes?

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 01:51:15 PM
It was rough and ready for sure, maybe the microcosm that it is now I notice the grumbling about bans more, the pool is shallower so you hear more flapping from the fishies :)
Ha! Good analogy, one needs deep enough water to properly troll. ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 04, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
Consider, save for visits from Starr, Dh and Roswells, Art there was little regular feminine activity except Brig's KON summaries. After Heather went dark Brig lost her zeitgeist and had to branch out, to... ::)

Remember back when the summer shutdown came the ladies left and opted ftmp not to return? That rendered the forum down to primarily male energy. Ever been to dog park and seen an unstable fear biter? That was Dr. Md. I think MV ran with that as long as he could and must have seen forum metrics dwindle. It was pretty clear that even cat talk was sniffed at when Spookcat finally left. So your gray area observation is apt.

Do you feel that these types of forums require a bonded podcast or radio audience in order to achieve and retain critical mass?

By observation Bart seems to have invested in quite a few more toys here and went all in for the X-mas wootacular, so that has to have had some impact on members staying sticky, yes?

You posted cats being mutilated don't you think that is why spookcat had enough?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 04, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
LMFAO! Willy nilly? Did you read some of the epithets that were permitted for weeks before the gavel came down? Nothing has changed, and bannings haven’t ramped up any great deal of late. It’s just that certain users have unraveled.

Perhaps it was that blood moon, or something in the stars. I just think certain EllGabber’s like to say MV is X, MV is Y.

If nothing changed then nobody would be banned and you would be posting about knockoffgab more today over there then spending your day doing your contrarian act on here.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 04, 2019, 02:00:58 PM
Hi GS, are we collecting mac addys. again?   :D

It was wr250 who was accused and not gravity sucks. It's clear who you are because every post is breaking down what metron thinks ffs.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 02:03:04 PM
You posted cats being mutilated don't you think that is why spookcat had enough?
A fake gif was posted, few took it seriously as anything more. And when a fake one went up on dog being booted off a bridge - same thing. That was part of the edginess that was encouraged and also that gif was apologized for. What you may not know is that MV in a PM found it well within bounds and said "post more". True stuff.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 02:04:41 PM
It was wr250 who was accused and not gravity sucks. It's clear who you are because every post is breaking down what metron thinks ffs.
Other things were said on that matter even including White Crow. Pick and choose as you prefer. ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 04, 2019, 02:06:07 PM
It was wr250 who was accused and not gravity sucks. It's clear who you are because every post is breaking down what metron thinks ffs.

Exactly.

And I don’t know how wr250 got the reputation of providing La$ha with Mac addresses. He was banned from her forum before I was, and I didn’t last long.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
Consider, save for visits from Starr, Dh and Roswells, Art there was little regular feminine activity except Brig's KON summaries. After Heather went dark Brig lost her zeitgeist and had to branch out, to... ::)

Remember back when the summer shutdown came the ladies left and opted ftmp not to return? That rendered the forum down to primarily male energy. Ever been to dog park and seen an unstable fear biter? That was Dr. Md. I think MV ran with that as long as he could and must have seen forum metrics dwindle. It was pretty clear that even cat talk was sniffed at when Spookcat finally left. So your gray area observation is apt.

Do you feel that these types of forums require a bonded podcast or radio audience in order to achieve and retain critical mass?

By observation Bart seems to have invested in quite a few more toys here and went all in for the X-mas wootacular, so that has to have had some impact on members staying sticky, yes?
Podcasts and related radio shows do give bumps in member participation. I would bet that every Gabcast or Bartcast increased member participation in the short term. Ditto the Wootacular and other creative things. Drama also adds to the count 8)

One thing to remember, we are talking about smaller niche forums. I have known many smaller forum owners who have their niche forums just for fun. They rarely, if ever, look at the numbers and don't care about growth and go with the flow. They are happy with it while it lasts and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Maybe MV is one of those forum owners? I don't know. It just doesn't seem like he is enjoying the Bellgab ride though.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 02:34:53 PM
He’s actually a very nice, genuine, down to earth fellow. Eccentric, most certainly, but overall a sweet person with a good heart. He can be hard too, at times, but I’d say that’s because of how shitty people out there are in the real world ... it can leave the best of us jaded, can it not?
He could certainly be as you describe in person. Since I have never had any real interaction with him, I am only going on the posts I can see. I have known forum owners over the years that are the greatest people in person but in their forum persona come across as uncaring or strange. I have also known forum owners who are the nicest helpful people online but are jerks in person, so it works both ways.


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 02:49:38 PM
Oh sure, drama works...until it doesn't...which is the point of the bans. Minus Heather there are only a few cards left to play and Neely is an actual danger, Vara is foundering like Hoaxie now, and Dave has zero drama - he's a technician. Banging on Noory is played out ftmp and no one has figured out how to LARP Jimmy Church. So that drama card looks to be in the discard pile.

Maybe MV thought the high drama count was cool initially then realized it was an implosion. Maybe that's what really blew Bellgab up initially. And maybe after looking at how many years he's been doing this, how many podcasts he produced, maybe it's just old hat to him now and boring and none of us has another Art Bell to coattail on.

Have you ever seen a forum literally go into a coma and rebirth before as this one did? It's all very much like Tim Allen taking his show from ABC to Fox.
 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 02:51:31 PM
If nothing changed then nobody would be banned and you would be posting about knockoffgab more today over there then spending your day doing your contrarian act on here.

Do allow me to clarify, please. What I meant by nothing having changed is that BellGab isn't going through a banning spree ... it only looks that way, from the questionable and flimsy "evidence" key EllGabber's seem to have gathered and referred to without actually citing it from a reliable source. Its all hearsay. How BellGab is being run is no different than how its always been run in the past.

Hmm. As far as me posting about this site, which I affectionately dubbed Knock-off Gab (for my own amusement) on BellGab, its not like I sit around there giving a blow-by-blow account about what transpires here.

Now, do I sometimes come across screenshots or other tidbits of hot goss that peak my interest, that makes for fun discussion, that results in a shared chuckle with my mates there? Sure thing, you got it.

Lastly, on my supposed "contrarian act" (my aren't you terse), in case you hadn't noticed, user accounts in this place are bolted to an immovable karma count - so YES, I do have my mask my darkness to some degree, out of respect for the environment and its inhabitants with which I am interacting.

Were you hoping you had "caught me out" with your observations?! If so, I admitted to the cardinal sins I've been charged with ...  so WHAT NOW??!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 02:58:13 PM
You have to wonder whose sock disclosure is given it came into existence on 1-31-19.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 04, 2019, 02:59:26 PM
Oh and as far as the acid washing of IP addresses goes, I think anyone who's picking up what I've put down knows who the culprits were. So no need to cover your tracks, as it was all blown out in the open long ago ...  I need not expound.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 04, 2019, 03:03:21 PM
Have you ever interacted with him?  One night he and I interacted a lot - trying to help another member.  It was a triumph of sorts.
@Sofia Are you saying he's nicer than me? Remember, I was prepared to rent you a truck and pay for your move to Atlanta, not to mention first and last months rent!  And no I have never interacted with him. I always hated hearing his voice whenever he would call in to the gabcast. It's a voice thing.. and I hate his.  That said I wish him no ill will or misfortune.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 04, 2019, 05:20:18 PM
@Sofia Are you saying he's nicer than me? Remember, I was prepared to rent you a truck and pay for your move to Atlanta, not to mention first and last months rent!  And no I have never interacted with him. I always hated hearing his voice whenever he would call in to the gabcast. It's a voice thing.. and I hate his.  That said I wish him no ill will or misfortune.
White Crow is nicer than everyone.
You offered me an office chair, not a relocation package.  Although the leather jacket is hard to resist.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 04, 2019, 05:27:49 PM
... Wonder how the always anti-censorship and 100% free speech Bellgabbers feel about it now? Wonder how MV feels about being a site m-o-d-e-r-a-t-o-r?

Then again, who cares
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 04, 2019, 05:34:54 PM
You almost never see "miss" and "MD" in the same sentence. Missing that hateful dunce is akin to missing a brain tumor.

Just to clarify, I didn't say I missed HIM.  Every so often he'd forget, and decide to follow me around and attack (if that's the word for his drivel).  It was great fun having him beg me to stop once I started responding to it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 04, 2019, 05:41:51 PM
That's genuinely funny and truthy.

Truthiness is funnier than parody now. We genuinely live in strange times.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 05:47:56 PM
Just to clarify, I didn't say I missed HIM.  Every so often he'd forget, and decide to follow me around and attack (if that's the word for his drivel).  It was great fun having him beg me to stop once I started responding to it.
Presuming you were "PB The Deplorable" at that time, you had pwnrship of some serious headspace.

He's very much all about political purity and so if you had even slightly skewed beliefs from hard right on any subject you drew the bullseye. Just as Nucky Nolan, Gd5150 and Kidnostad3 did. It was stated several times there that when he lost you as his foil the ire was going to have to ooze out elsewhere. And so it did.
 
I think it's killing him to be talked about here with no entrée to lash back.
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 05:50:57 PM
Truthiness is funnier than parody now. We genuinely live in strange times.  ;)
1984 at every venue and opportunity.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 04, 2019, 05:57:00 PM
Just to clarify, I didn't say I missed HIM.  Every so often he'd forget, and decide to follow me around and attack (if that's the word for his drivel).  It was great fun having him beg me to stop once I started responding to it.

I know. You never struck me as masochistic.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 04, 2019, 06:03:34 PM
1984 at every venue and opportunity.

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The Covington boy's face crime proves that, and you can add "Idiocracy" to "1984". Who knew that a smiling kid could get charged with felonious smirking?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 04, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
The Covington boy's face crime proves that, and you can add "Idiocracy" to "1984". Who knew that a smiling kid could get charged with felonious smirking?
Or that a Dem. Guv would be found in black face imitating Michael Jackson's moonwalk. ::)

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 04, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
Or that a Dem. Guv would be found in black face imitating Michael Jackson's moonwalk. ::)

It's not too surprising when you consider the fact that Democrats went from supporters of the KKK to supporters of the NOI. It's very, very telling that they care more about blackface than infanticide.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 04, 2019, 06:16:48 PM
1984 at every venue and opportunity.

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I liked the original 1956 version of 1984  over the 1984 remake. Not saying the remake was bad though. There is also supposedly a new 1984 film adaptation in the works.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 04, 2019, 06:22:46 PM
I liked the original 1956 version of 1984  over the 1984 remake. Not saying the remake was bad though. There is also supposedly a new 1984 film adaptation in the works.

"1984" seems like it's a prophecy while "Idiocracy" seems like it's a documentary. They're cliches because they're true.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 04, 2019, 06:55:21 PM
White Crow is nicer than everyone.
You offered me an office chair, not a relocation package.  Although the leather jacket is hard to resist.

Maybe I just offered you a package ;D  Got that exact leather jacket for Christmas. They look best with long black hair draping down ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 04, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Oh good. Metrons back with an alt too. That’s great. No wonder it smelled in here worse than before.  Nobody wants you. Get lost.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 04, 2019, 09:02:21 PM
LMFAO! Willy nilly? Did you read some of the epithets that were permitted for weeks before the gavel came down? Nothing has changed, and bannings haven’t ramped up any great deal of late. It’s just that certain users have unraveled.

Perhaps it was that blood moon, or something in the stars. I just think certain EllGabber’s like to say MV is X, MV is Y.
Today is a new moon.  No moon.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 04, 2019, 09:04:08 PM
Maybe I just offered you a package ;D  Got that exact leather jacket for Christmas. They look best with long black hair draping down ;)
I'm sure you look great, for those who like men who are overly muscular.  What did you get her?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 04, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
Really? Should I be cautious?
Why don't you ask Bart in Ellgab.  As for me, I've been treated better by bad dogs with no shame.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 04, 2019, 10:02:48 PM
Oh sure, drama works...until it doesn't...which is the point of the bans. Minus Heather there are only a few cards left to play and Neely is an actual danger, Vara is foundering like Hoaxie now, and Dave has zero drama - he's a technician. Banging on Noory is played out ftmp and no one has figured out how to LARP Jimmy Church. So that drama card looks to be in the discard pile.

Maybe MV thought the high drama count was cool initially then realized it was an implosion. Maybe that's what really blew Bellgab up initially. And maybe after looking at how many years he's been doing this, how many podcasts he produced, maybe it's just old hat to him now and boring and none of us has another Art Bell to coattail on.

Have you ever seen a forum literally go into a coma and rebirth before as this one did? It's all very much like Tim Allen taking his show from ABC to Fox.
And maybe you and your wall of undesirable text are metron.  Get lost you overly vociferous douchebag.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 04, 2019, 11:45:16 PM
I'm sure you look great, for those who like men who are overly muscular.  What did you get her?
@Sofia

I gifted her numerous things.


Two rings (one of the sylicone) those are becoming very popular. :o

A $150. spa GC

An Ina Garten cookbook (we love her stuff)

MP3 player thingy with wireless headphones (I don't know why woman want to wear ear buds and listen to shitty hip hop sounding crap while they work out)

Annnd.. Boston Legal the complete box set series.

Next year I plan to git her a cat o' nine tails to properly flog me with :D


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 04, 2019, 11:48:40 PM
Metron, do you even HAVE horses? Let alone 26 of them ??? Your AV only shows, 4, horses....  curious
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 05, 2019, 12:01:11 AM
@Sofia

I gifted her numerous things.


Two rings (one of the sylicone) those are becoming very popular. :o

A $150. spa GC

An Ina Garten cookbook (we love her stuff)

MP3 player thingy with wireless headphones (I don't know why woman want to wear ear buds and listen to shitty hip hop sounding crap while they work out)

Annnd.. Boston Legal the complete box set series.

Next year I plan to git her a cat o' nine tails to properly flog me with :D
Sounds very sweet.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 05, 2019, 12:18:43 AM
Metron, do you even HAVE horses? Let alone 26 of them ??? Your AV only shows, 4, horses....  curious
I've had horses throughout my live.  But not 26 at one time.  When I lived in Indiana, I had a Tennessee Walker, a double registered Appy-Quarter Horse, and a Palomino Pony (The pony was for my sons). Plus, 24 laying hens, and 5 goats.
We also had several house and barn Cats, and a dog.  Life was good! ;D :-*
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 05, 2019, 12:20:36 AM
I've had horses throughout my live.  But not 26 at one time.  When I lived in Indiana, I had a Tennessee Walker, a double registered Appy-Quarter Horse, and a Palomino Pony (The pony was for my sons). Plus, 24 laying hens, and 5 goats.
We also had several house and barn Cats, and a dog.  Life was good! ;D :-*
You were living the life! 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 05, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
You were living the life!
Oh, yes.  I loved it there! :-*

Oh.  Bumped ya another +1.  LOL. ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 05, 2019, 12:45:12 AM
Sounds very sweet.
You asked. So don't throw me the lackluster jibber jabber.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 05, 2019, 02:45:09 AM
You asked. So don't throw me the lackluster jibber jabber.
Nice jacket, dude! ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 04:20:46 AM
It was wr250 who was accused and not Gravity Sucks.

I recognize your attempt to muddy the waters by way of denial and diversion. However you and I both know what went on. I have all the facts, should anyone want to directly inquire, here, publicly. I don't hide any of my words, actions or deeds in private messages or with false claims. You're attempting to sell a story, and its downright treasonous. I hope everyone finds you out and takes heed at what it is you're doing.

Quote
"Exactly. And I don’t know how wr250 got the reputation of providing La$ha with Mac addresses. He was banned from her forum before I was, and I didn’t last long."

You know full well and good how and why partcular rumours were manufactured, and perpetrated. The carefully constructed chicanery at play here is not only flabbergasting to those who are none-the-wiser, but lack the apropos affectations you're going for. So drop the act.

One thing to remember, we are talking about smaller niche forums. I have known many smaller forum owners who have their niche forums just for fun. They rarely, if ever, look at the numbers and don't care about growth and go with the flow. They are happy with it while it lasts and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Maybe MV is one of those forum owners?

That is most probably correct.

[MV] could certainly be as you describe in person. Since I have never had any real interaction with him, I am only going on the posts I can see.

He is, he's nice. Let me just preface that with the reassurance that he and I are not close, and I'm not carrying any water for BellGab. I want to make that clear. I do like the place, and honestly prefer it to EllGab, but I'm not white knighting for a man who would probably not remember very much about me or consider me in his life decisions. I'm just another random poster, and the man has a life outside this dog and pony show - probably.

I have known forum owners over the years that are the greatest people in person but in their forum persona come across as uncaring or strange. I have also known forum owners who are the nicest helpful people online but are jerks in person, so it works both ways.

That's the thing, though. MV is a different character, he's not predictable and formulaic, and doesn'f fit the mould of your classic forum moderator. That's what's made BellGab so great, brought so many of us like minds together, and ultimately birthed EllGab. None of that would've happened if it weren't for his maverick, individualist moderating style. And I want to urge everyone to keep this in mind.

Today is a new moon.  No moon.

My bad. (https://is3-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video32/v4/5d/70/fb/5d70fb2f-f168-ec72-bbf5-eb550bc9ccf0/mzm.qjkwfapo.lsr/268x0w.png)

Oh good. Metrons back with an alt too. That’s great. No wonder it smelled in here worse than before. Nobody wants you. Get lost.

I see you're back on your usual group think, vanilla, hive-mind bullshit. Who else, besides you voiced their displeasure with "26 horses", and who on earth spouted the scuttlebutt that is this great unveiling? Oh yes ... its no wonder you're following suit - you've always had a liking for marching in lockstep with mediocrity.

And maybe you and your wall of undesirable text are metron.  Get lost you overly vociferous douchebag.

Why don't you cling on oh so tightly to that "gainful employment" you used to brag about?! Dickhole.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 05, 2019, 04:55:49 AM
Don’t remind me of the employment situation. Just got my tax form from last year. A $40k withholding for federal income taxes alone seems a bit too steep.  Rather depressing. Don’t worry though that means your country’s check is on the way! 

https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ZAF (https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ZAF)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 05:01:50 AM
Don’t worry though that means your country’s check is on the way! 

Politics are a yawn. Take a gander at what the title of this thread is, and stick to the topic. Otherwise, STFU.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 05, 2019, 05:21:45 AM
Well. You mentioned my gainful employment first so I thought I’d give you an update. Try to help a guy out and look whatcha get.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 05:29:01 AM
Well. You mentioned my gainful employment first so I thought I’d give you an update. Try to help a guy out and look whatcha get.

Aww. Sorry, man. I didn't mean to be so nasty. Can't we just get along now? I'm so tired of arguing with you! I promise to stay out of your way if we can only stop butting heads.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 05, 2019, 05:54:58 AM
Noooope. You might be even more phony than you are vile.  That’s an accomplishment!  I will give you credit for being the best actor to crawl out of the Bellgab leper colony. More folks buying it than I thought.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 06:10:43 AM
You might be even more phony than you are vile. That’s an accomplishment! I will give you credit for being the best actor to crawl out of the Bellgab leper colony. More folks buying it than I thought.

Whenever I'm hokey, no one buys it. You give me far too much credit. I need not remind you you were spawned from the same egg as I.

Bart doesn't seem to like me, and neither do any of the other users here, aside from maybe 1 or 2. But that's okay, I guess. I guess its a good thing I don't look to a quasi-Art Bell fan forum for personal validation.

GULP.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 05, 2019, 06:17:37 AM
Whenever I'm hokey, no one buys it. You give me far too much credit. I need not remind you were spawned from the same egg as I.

Bart doesn't seem to like me, and neither do any of the other users here, aside from 1 or 2. But that's okay, I guess. I guess its a good thing I don't look to a quasi-Art Bell fan forum for personal validation.

GULP.
I like you, Azzerae, as much here as I do there.  I love people.  I love life.  Can't help it, it's just my nature.  Yes, I get taunted, trolled, and made fun of for it, but that doesn't stop me.  It is what it is, and that's all it needs to be.  Nuff Said. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 06:19:29 AM
I like you, Azzerae, as much here as I do there. I love people. I love life. Can't help it, it's just my nature. Yes, I get taunted, trolled, and made fun of for it, but that doesn't stop me. It is what it is, and that's all it needs to be. Nuff Said.

YAY!!!  8) I AGREE, ON ALL FRONTS!!!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on February 05, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
YAY!!!  8) I AGREE, ON ALL FRONTS!!!
Thank you.  Bumped your Karma Points up. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 05, 2019, 06:34:51 AM
Thank you. Bumped your Karma Points up.

 :-*
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 08:56:22 AM
It's not too surprising when you consider the fact that Democrats went from supporters of the KKK to supporters of the NOI. It's very, very telling that they care more about blackface than infanticide.
And they love to get derisive mileage at the expense of "Varas" ( a term the left revels in as power insult) whilst simultaneously promising them inclusive representation. I mean good grief, who wouldn't want to be a part of the modern day necktie party! Yikes... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 08:59:23 AM
Metron, do you even HAVE horses? Let alone 26 of them ??? Your AV only shows, 4, horses....  curious

I don't actually, it's a literary reference:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/776929.Portrait_of_an_Artist_with_Twenty_Six_Horses

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Eastlake is an outstanding author in the great American western tradition. 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:00:53 AM
Oh good. Metrons back with an alt too. That’s great. No wonder it smelled in here worse than before.  Nobody wants you. Get lost.
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 05, 2019, 09:01:51 AM
Pass
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:02:12 AM
I've had horses throughout my live.  But not 26 at one time.  When I lived in Indiana, I had a Tennessee Walker, a double registered Appy-Quarter Horse, and a Palomino Pony (The pony was for my sons). Plus, 24 laying hens, and 5 goats.
We also had several house and barn Cats, and a dog.  Life was good! ;D :-*

Wow Starr that sounds magical! ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:05:45 AM

My bad. (https://is3-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video32/v4/5d/70/fb/5d70fb2f-f168-ec72-bbf5-eb550bc9ccf0/mzm.qjkwfapo.lsr/268x0w.png)

I see you're back on your usual group think, vanilla, hive-mind bullshit. Who else, besides you voiced their displeasure with "26 horses", and who on earth spouted the scuttlebutt that is this great unveiling? Oh yes ... its no wonder you're following suit - you've always had a liking for marching in lockstep with mediocrity.
To be fair twas Gravity that made the initial observation, Enard is more caboose than engine where such matters are concerned. 8)
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
Whenever I'm hokey, no one buys it. You give me far too much credit. I need not remind you you were spawned from the same egg as I.

Bart doesn't seem to like me, and neither do any of the other users here, aside from maybe 1 or 2. But that's okay, I guess. I guess its a good thing I don't look to a quasi-Art Bell fan forum for personal validation.

GULP.
You have more friends than you imagine Azz...just sayin'... 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:08:11 AM
Pass
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 05, 2019, 09:15:55 AM
To be fair twas Gravity that made the initial observation, Enard is more caboose than engine where such matters are concerned. 8)
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I had you pegged in the fall. Your first post betrayed you. By the fifth or sixth post I knew it was you.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
Lol, well you're an insightful fella, yes the political constancy is rather impossible to rein in, heh... ::)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 05, 2019, 10:37:38 AM
That's the thing, though. MV is a different character, he's not predictable and formulaic, and doesn'f fit the mould of your classic forum moderator. That's what's made BellGab so great, brought so many of us like minds together, and ultimately birthed EllGab. None of that would've happened if it weren't for his maverick, individualist moderating style. And I want to urge everyone to keep this in mind.
As far as MV birthing Ellgab, it's more like MV suddenly abandoned his forum child Bellgab, left it for dead, and then Bart Ell rescued it and now it is flourishing. The parent unexpectedly returns thinking everyone will high-five it and to pick up as if nothing has happened. It just doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 05, 2019, 10:45:33 AM
Looks like someone can’t stand it when anyone posts so much as a sentence of poking fun at him. Sprinted right back over to Bellgab to whine about Bart’s one liner earlier saying he seemed to like himself a lot. So many fragile little kids desperately demanding affirmation from one another.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
As far as MV birthing Ellgab, it's more like MV suddenly abandoned his forum child Bellgab, left it for dead, and then Bart Ell rescued it and now it is flourishing. The parent unexpectedly returns thinking everyone will high-five it and to pick up as if nothing has happened. It just doesn't work like that.
This is factual and as he chooses not to address the why of it speculation will remain in full bloom.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 05, 2019, 02:38:38 PM
This is factual and as he chooses not to address the why of it speculation will remain in full bloom.
Only MV knows the real reasons behind the shutdown and while I do agree with others that say he doesn't owe anyone an explanation, I do think he owed it to forum members to give some advance notice about the shutdown. Maybe a statement a few days before the shutdown such as "I have decided to close the forum on July 4th. Although I am not going to explain the reasons why, I do wish everyone good luck." This would allow forum members time to copy any of their posts they wanted to keep and also to contact other members about an alternative meeting place. The only thing that seems to make sense is that he was angry about the whole thing and wanted a quick clean break from it and wasn't interested in finding someone to continue it while he took a leave of absence from it. Giving some advance notice is just the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 05, 2019, 02:46:07 PM
I can't fault your narrative, having no notice was frankly jarring. It was also interesting how ufoship.com stayed up and at various times Bellgab was either listed for sale or playing sly avatar games with those who bothered to keep it bookmarked and checked back in. It felt like a psyop of some sort, vaguely creepy even?
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 05, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
And they love to get derisive mileage at the expense of "Varas" ( a term the left revels in as power insult) whilst simultaneously promising them inclusive representation. I mean good grief, who wouldn't want to be a part of the modern day necktie party! Yikes... ::) ::)

Evidently, those tight neckties cut off the circulation to their brains. "Straitjacket" might be more apropos now.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 05, 2019, 07:49:42 PM
I don't actually, it's a literary reference:

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Oh good.  I was concerned it was a trip to TJ gone bad
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 06, 2019, 02:39:45 AM
As far as MV birthing Ellgab, it's more like MV suddenly abandoned his forum child Bellgab, left it for dead, and then Bart Ell rescued it and now it is flourishing. The parent unexpectedly returns thinking everyone will high-five it and to pick up as if nothing has happened. It just doesn't work like that.

MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 06, 2019, 02:50:12 AM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.

Pretty sure it started places like Fantastic Forum long before GeorgeNorrySucks and CoastGab were a script on a laptop in the back of a semi truck. Just saying.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 06, 2019, 03:08:21 AM
Pretty sure it started places like Fantastic Forum long before GeorgeNorrySucks and CoastGab were a script on a laptop in the back of a semi truck. Just saying.

I guess so.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 06, 2019, 03:47:55 AM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.

''The Original George Nooy Sucks'' thread was started by a poster at GLP before those shit-heels ultimately deleted it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 06, 2019, 03:50:01 AM
... he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site...

Pretty great, right?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 06, 2019, 04:07:54 AM
Pretty great, right?
If you're into that sorta thing.

 :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 06, 2019, 07:43:56 AM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.

Cyber stalked my arse.

Sorry Azz, this is like saying Ford made a car, so nobody else can use the template for a vehicle that has 4 wheels and seats.

Bart made EllGab after MV fucked off with no warning. Everyone had a chance to come here, it was no longer MV’s rules here because it’s not his, it’s similar because that’s what was needed. It evolved because it was nurtured.

MV doesn’t appear to be the one bellyaching about this. If he is I haven’t seen it (and could give a shit if he was tbh). So who are the people who have an issue with it... and more to the point, why? I doubt it would make a shit bit of difference at this point, but it would be interesting to know.

This is evolution. It’s not a knock off site, it is is distinctly different in a number of ways. As with everything online, if you don’t like it, don’t come here.

You are right BellGab is the older sibling, but as others have pointed out there are older iterations. Hell if you want to go back to the start, why not look at Usenet or The Grassy Knoll on AOL? That’s exactly where I first heard of Art Bell.

EllGab is now arguably more successful than it’s older sibling now, maybe that is the bigger and more important question to ponder, why is that?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 06, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.
When MV quit and abruptly chose to shut down Bellgab without notice, Bart Ell took quick action and provided an alternative place for everyone to meet. Bart Ell saved whatever legacy was left. No one knew what was going on or if Bellgab would ever return. Then, when MV put Bellgab up for sale (for a pie-in-the-sky amount of $20K) it was evident at that time that it would probably not return. MV made a huge mistake in the way the shutdown was handled although he probably won't admit it. You snooze and you lose.

As for the current state of Bellgab, if MV likes the way it is going, then good luck. If he doesn't like where it is going, then take action and change it. It really is that simple.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 06, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
It's his personal petting zoo, ergo he can (as you observe) run it as he sees fit.  :o :o :o

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 06, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Oh good.  I was concerned it was a trip to TJ gone bad

OUCH! ::) ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on February 06, 2019, 01:16:18 PM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.

Oh.
Well I disagree.
I think it is your cold hard opinion
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 06, 2019, 05:02:13 PM
''The Original George Nooy Sucks'' thread was started by a poster at GLP before those shit-heels ultimately deleted it.

It's hard to believe that was over ten years ago! The goons did a real "Library of Alexandria" on one of the best comedic, humorous threads on the internet.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 06, 2019, 05:34:51 PM
Oh.
Well I disagree.
I think it is your cold hard opinion
The word opinion is mentally transposed regularly with the word truth in the minds of some.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 07, 2019, 11:29:15 AM
The word opinion is mentally transposed regularly with the word truth in the minds of some.
Ranked voting is naked statism defined.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Robert on February 07, 2019, 06:55:34 PM
''The Original George Nooy Sucks'' thread was started by a poster at GLP before those shit-heels ultimately deleted it.
What's GLP?  Great Looking Pants as in the radio ad?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on February 07, 2019, 06:57:41 PM
What's GLP?  Great Looking Pants as in the radio ad?

GLP lives Here (https://www.godlikeproductions.com/)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on February 07, 2019, 07:17:03 PM
MV--someone with a mail-order bride--"created" a fan community. Hahaha.
You make the guy sound like Tolkien.
The users always "create" the environment. MV paid the bills and raked in (likely dwindling) profits.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 07, 2019, 07:45:06 PM
Hey Asserae... I saw you posted another super tasteful cartoon of someone dismembering someone else because they hurt their feelers it seemed.  I guess the Santa torture one only works seasonally.

I know your sort I’m guessing. Just a word of advice, next time your buddies ask you to accompany them on their pirat.... errr... FISHING boat for a day on the water, keep your head down. The US navy isn’t into what is likely your seafaring occupation in third worldsville.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 07, 2019, 08:45:55 PM
MV created all of this stuff. Bart Ell was merely a user, just like the rest of us ... That is up until he cyber stalked MV, stole his intellectual property and reformatted it into a chintzy knock-off site. And it'll always be the case ... those are the cold hard facts. BellGab will always be where everything began.
You have an innate talent for coming up empty, it's actually quite remarkable. And why all of the sudden are you habitually posting over here? Curious
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 02:32:54 AM
This is like saying Ford made a car, so nobody else can use the template for a vehicle that has 4 wheels and seats.

You're right! I don't believe I was all that clear in what I meant in my prior post, so please let me clarify: I'm only saying that, as far as I know, Bart created his persona ON BellGab, and so, the entire premise of EllGab even being BellGab without the "B" and other modifications stemmed from there. Bart's entire character is an anagram of Art Bell, and derivative of BellGab, reliant on its existence to have even been conceived. No?

Bart made EllGab after MV fucked off with no warning. Everyone had a chance to come here, it was no longer MV’s rules here because it’s not his, it’s similar because that’s what was needed. It evolved because it was nurtured.

Correct. As did I. I arrived here too, maybe later than others (I can't recall precisely when) ... and certainly MV's rules don't apply to someone else's forum. I am in total agreement with you that its an evolvement - but an evolvement of what BellGab started. Surely this is a reasonable conclusion for me to come to?

MV doesn’t appear to be the one bellyaching about this. If he is I haven’t seen it (and could give a shit if he was tbh). So who are the people who have an issue with it... and more to the point, why? I doubt it would make a shit bit of difference at this point, but it would be interesting to know.

No, he doesn't seem to be. Right. I don't know who has an issue with it, save for a few BellGabber's that you can read bitching about it on BellGab. I only took umbrage and used such strongly worded phrases in my original post because Bart took it upon himself to be incredibly impolite to me in the Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade thread a day or so ago.  So yes, I lost my temper.

But I just want both yourself and @anniem to understand, ladies, you both know me, and especially, that I don't like to upset the apple cart unnecessarily. I retract my off colour remarks about the board, and knowing me, you should know I hold no disdain for either of you, and am indeed rather fond of you two. So please try to see past my curt summary of how I see things.

This is evolution. It’s not a knock off site, it is is distinctly different in a number of ways. As with everything online, if you don’t like it, don’t come here.

I'd miss you. You're hardly ever at BellGab.

You are right BellGab is the older sibling, but as others have pointed out there are older iterations. Hell if you want to go back to the start, why not look at Usenet or The Grassy Knoll on AOL? That’s exactly where I first heard of Art Bell.

EllGab is now arguably more successful than it’s older sibling now, maybe that is the bigger and more important question to ponder, why is that?

Please see my original point, about EllGab being a interpolation of BellGab. Because I think you may have misunderstood my point (possibly due to my lacking the eloquence needed to express myself well).

If you're talking economics, my brain isn't wired that way, so I wouldn't know, and don't place value on money alone per se, but if success means like minds are enjoying one another's interactions and conversations - even if they happen to get a bit heated at times - then I guess that is success. I think its clear at this point that I just have a nostalgia for BellGab, and tend to want to remind folks of the real story if they begin getting ahead of themselves too much.

I'm happy to apologize if I've been rude, because I respect your opinion.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 08, 2019, 04:03:22 AM
You're right! I don't believe I was all that clear in what I meant in my prior post, so please let me clarify: I'm only saying that, as far as I know, Bart created his persona ON BellGab, and so, the entire premise of EllGab even being BellGab without the "B" and other modifications stemmed from there. Bart's entire character is an anagram of Art Bell, and derivative of BellGab, reliant on its existence to have even been conceived. No?

Correct. As did I. I arrived here too, maybe later than others (I can't recall precisely when) ... and certainly MV's rules don't apply to someone else's forum. I am in total agreement with you that its an evolvement - but an evolvement of what BellGab started. Surely this is a reasonable conclusion for me to come to?

No, he doesn't seem to be. Right. I don't know who has an issue with it, save for a few BellGabber's that you can read bitching about it on BellGab. I only took umbrage and used such strongly worded phrases in my original post because Bart took it upon himself to be incredibly impolite to me in the Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade thread a day or so ago.  So yes, I lost my temper.

But I just want both yourself and @anniem to understand, ladies, you both know me, and especially, that I don't like to upset the apple cart unnecessarily. I retract my off colour remarks about the board, and knowing me, you should know I hold no disdain for either of you, and am indeed rather fond of you two. So please try to see past my curt summary of how I see things.

I'd miss you. You're hardly ever at BellGab.

Please see my original point, about EllGab being a interpolation of BellGab. Because I think you may have misunderstood my point (possibly due to my lacking the eloquence needed to express myself well).

If you're talking economics, my brain isn't wired that way, so I wouldn't know, and don't place value on money alone per se, but if success means like minds are enjoying one another's interactions and conversations - even if they happen to get a bit heated at times - then I guess that is success. I think its clear at this point that I just have a nostalgia for BellGab, and tend to want to remind folks of the real story if they begin getting ahead of themselves too much.

I'm happy to apologize if I've been rude, because I respect your opinion.

no need to apologise at all .. if we don’t have discussion, what’s the point of being here (apart from cats!)?

:)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Ms. C on February 08, 2019, 04:06:09 AM
no need to apologise at all .. if we don’t have discussion, what’s the point of being here (apart from cats!)?

:)

And dogs!!!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 04:16:55 AM
I do love me some doggies and kitties.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: DynamoHum on February 08, 2019, 04:38:31 AM
And dogs!!!

Yes absolutely right!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 04:53:29 AM
OMG, those pups are adorable!  :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 07:41:57 AM
Hey Asserae... I saw you posted another super tasteful cartoon of someone dismembering someone else because they hurt their feelers it seemed.  I guess the Santa torture one only works seasonally.
You're a sensitive little one as trolls go, now aren't you? :'(

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 07:55:19 AM
You have an innate talent for coming up empty, it's actually quite remarkable. And why all of the sudden are you habitually posting over here? Curious
Hadn't you noticed, the dick doctor and backstabbing brig are doing purity purges over at Bellgrab.

As an innate coward brig demands and receives her mandate from MV and her tributes from sycophants like the dick doctor. Just as in professional sports when one receives the dreaded vote of confidence from brig the end is nigh. The dick doctor flails in next to her with endless catcalls of "Vara" or "globalist" and lately Jagoffstar is there with his fatuous, but equally cringeworthy, ego diaper loads of rampant condescension to assist.

I suspect that after they buly Azzerae for a while they'll simply boot him and, as they harvest MAC addresses over there, the odds of being able to re-sock and return fire are limited by one's use of another device, IP and other finger-printable hardware profiles.

Of course it is MV's personal petting zoo so no expectation pf public access for all exists.

Think of Bellgrab as "Fight Club". So when someone here queries why Azzerae is posting in Ellgab there is the immediate observation that analagous to the film he has violated the first rule of Fight Club. No it's not an apples to apples example, but it's darn close. Hence their new forum preference poll in which a stunning 7 users have voted. That's some ringing endorsement of the original isn't it, a total of five members (last I looked) think it's better than Ellgab. One prefers EG, and one is bi-forum.

Look people, when your group is dying from the inside out push polling is always there to help...or not... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 07:56:53 AM
Yes absolutely right!
Great names - Sofawolf and Gangster, they appear to be mixed breed with some rat terrier perhaps?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 07:57:52 AM
I do love me some doggies and kitties.
Aw...is that a St. Charles Spaniel? Very cute. :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 08:00:54 AM
And dogs!!!
A wee bit of Scotsman comes to mind when I see yours! ;)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 08, 2019, 08:31:06 AM
A wee bit of Scotsman comes to mind when I see yours! ;)

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Ironically, he probably owns an American Labrador  :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 08:51:15 AM
Lol, that's some black humor there... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 02:40:56 PM
And over in Bellgrab the mood is even darker yet as VC opines:

"Seems the hatred trolls at EG are really really butt hurt that they can't keep fucking-up BG sooo easily anymore. Getting banned from BG can be a useful measure to stop the abusive harassment from EG members. Fuck Off EllGab doxers and violence promoters! Get some real legit medical treatment for your ADHD/PTSD Sock Puppet EG Idiocracy!"

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 08, 2019, 02:47:54 PM
There’s way more violence promoting by the circle of jagoffs that remain over there than here by a long margin.  I love how you immediately run back here after blathering on about how terrible this place was after about a day of your ban there.  It kills you to not see your voluminous cut and paste blather about nothing in every thread all the time. Probably gave you the shakes like an addict for those 12 hours.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 02:50:53 PM
There’s way more violence promoting by the circle of jagoffs that remain over there than here by a long margin.  I love how you immediately run back here after blathering on about how terrible this place was after about a day of your ban there.  It kills you to not see your voluminous cut and paste blather about nothing in every thread all the time. Probably gave you the shakes like an addict for those 12 hours.

LOL!

Two words - Godlike Productions... 8) :-* :P
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 03:00:00 PM
Someone seems to get butterflies in their stomach every time someone so much as posts a sentence in this thread.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 03:03:16 PM
Someone seems to get butterflies in their stomach every time someone so much as posts a sentence in this thread.

It's as if Enard secretly longs for his days on Bellgrab, won't they let him back in? :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 03:07:19 PM
It's as if Enard secretly longs for his days on Bellgrab, won't they let him back in? :-\

I believe he deliberately burnt his bridges under the guise of being done with the place, because it no longer resembled the utopia it was once deemed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 03:19:47 PM
Oh dear oh dear...wakey wakey!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 08, 2019, 03:21:15 PM
Praise 26 horses!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 08, 2019, 05:30:48 PM
 :)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 08, 2019, 06:28:16 PM
Oh dear oh dear...wakey wakey!

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Gordon!   :). Watching the current Hell's Kitchen as we speak
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 08, 2019, 07:03:48 PM
Brig should put out more of her videos, the most cringe worthy awfulness this side of Falkie
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 09, 2019, 12:03:19 AM
Forum worlds are colliding
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on February 09, 2019, 08:07:11 AM
Brig should put out more of her videos, the most cringe worthy awfulness this side of Falkie

Bellgab is a regular autism buffet but those videos were creepy as shit... literally shuddering.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 09, 2019, 08:58:29 AM
Gordon! :) Watching the current Hell's Kitchen as we speak

Thats a good show.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on February 09, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
Thats a good show.

I'm watching it r i g h t n o w
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 09, 2019, 09:46:31 AM
Gordon!   :). Watching the current Hell's Kitchen as we speak

He's got a new show:

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/03/194278/gordon-ramsay-new-fox-television-show-24-hours-to-hell-and-back

And I missed the first, any comments on it?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Azzerae on February 09, 2019, 09:56:49 AM
I'm watching it r i g h t n o w

 :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 09, 2019, 10:16:35 AM
:)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 09, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
He's got a new show:

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/03/194278/gordon-ramsay-new-fox-television-show-24-hours-to-hell-and-back

And I missed the first, any comments on it?
I like his current 24 Hours show. It is a redo of his older Hotel Hell series which spanned a few days instead of 24 hours to facelift fledgling restaurants and create attitude changes in staff and owners. I like 24 Hours but I liked Hotel Hell a bit better as it was more in depth and also included small hotels and bread and breakfasts. Gordon Ramsey's techniques in creating rapid turnaround and change in the owners and staff are right out of the Tony Robbins playbook and are quite effective. Create emotion (get the owners and staff angry enough to get out of denial), get leverage, and make change happen.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on February 09, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
You're right! I don't believe I was all that clear in what I meant in my prior post, so please let me clarify: I'm only saying that, as far as I know, Bart created his persona ON BellGab, and so, the entire premise of EllGab even being BellGab without the "B" and other modifications stemmed from there. Bart's entire character is an anagram of Art Bell, and derivative of BellGab, reliant on its existence to have even been conceived. No?

Impossible to know. Things have happened, then other things happened, things always happen and here we are. What you don't know is whether other things happened or things didn't happen we would still be here we are, or who knows what it would have been. It certainly is different here than there. Whatever. I like here better than there, in case you were wondering. It seems way too bitey elsewhere.

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Correct. As did I. I arrived here too, maybe later than others (I can't recall precisely when) ... and certainly MV's rules don't apply to someone else's forum. I am in total agreement with you that its an evolvement - but an evolvement of what BellGab started. Surely this is a reasonable conclusion for me to come to?

I happened here on the first day it was, because I was looking at the Barttweet and saw a message about it. Oh, I know, hang on. You arrived 4 days after I did. You were late! What were you doing?
What happens next with your above conclusion?

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No, he doesn't seem to be. Right. I don't know who has an issue with it, save for a few BellGabber's that you can read bitching about it on BellGab. I only took umbrage and used such strongly worded phrases in my original post because Bart took it upon himself to be incredibly impolite to me in the Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade thread a day or so ago.  So yes, I lost my temper.

I don't understand the issue between here and there. I likely will live out my life happily not, so all is well on that front. OH. I am not sure about the impolite thing. I see things I find funny, and I see things I don't understand for whatever reason. There is that thing people seem to do - internetting - carrying on for reactions or whatever. I don't always know who is doing what but I am always on the look out for funnies. I hope your feelings weren't hurt by an impolite. Did you follow up with him to see why that happened?

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But I just want both yourself and @anniem to understand, ladies, you both know me, and especially, that I don't like to upset the apple cart unnecessarily. I retract my off colour remarks about the board, and knowing me, you should know I hold no disdain for either of you, and am indeed rather fond of you two. So please try to see past my curt summary of how I see things.

No need to retract I don't think. I'm a bit on the literal side, which adds to the amount of funs I get to have, so was just saying it looked like an opinion vs fact. Even facts can be squishy. But I don't have all that many problems with the thoughts other people have. On occasion, yes, but not terribly frequent.

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Please see my original point, about EllGab being a interpolation of BellGab. Because I think you may have misunderstood my point (possibly due to my lacking the eloquence needed to express myself well).
If you're talking economics, my brain isn't wired that way, so I wouldn't know, and don't place value on money alone per se, but if success means like minds are enjoying one another's interactions and conversations - even if they happen to get a bit heated at times - then I guess that is success. I think its clear at this point that I just have a nostalgia for BellGab, and tend to want to remind folks of the real story if they begin getting ahead of themselves too much.
I'm happy to apologize if I've been rude, because I respect your opinion.

Naw, it isn't my thought that you need to apologize. I just came along to give you a 1+ that day, and thought I'd pipe in what came to mind when I did it. I think all is well. And thank you for caring enough to clarify and whatnot, that is pretty nice.

edit adding @Azzerae so you can see I answered.   :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 09, 2019, 03:34:14 PM
I like his current 24 Hours show. It is a redo of his older Hotel Hell series which spanned a few days instead of 24 hours to facelift fledgling restaurants and create attitude changes in staff and owners. I like 24 Hours but I liked Hotel Hell a bit better as it was more in depth and also included small hotels and bread and breakfasts. Gordon Ramsey's techniques in creating rapid turnaround and change in the owners and staff are right out of the Tony Robbins playbook and are quite effective. Create emotion (get the owners and staff angry enough to get out of denial), get leverage, and make change happen.
Sounds like a winner. I DVRd the 1st season of 24 Hours because I guess I miss his "Kitchen Nightmares" now that it's gone. Robert Irvine's "Restaurant Impossible" was pretty good too, but I believe he left it to do some sort of Dr. Phill styled marriage counseling program - not much of a stretch from RI really. One thing you may want to examine if you like Ramsay is his old UK series "The F Word" - now THAT is great television!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 09, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
What's GLP?  Great Looking Pants as in the radio ad?

Some individuals claim that it's a sinister front for the Tavistock Institute. Certain words and phrases, that deal with those claims, are censored, and members can be banned from the forum if they "get too close to the truth".
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 09, 2019, 05:25:22 PM
Brig should put out more of her videos, the most cringe worthy awfulness this side of Falkie

I've been out of the loop for five years (not in prison BTW), so this is inside baseball to me. Do you have a link to one of these clips that I can watch when I'm in a particularly masochistic mood (like I need more pain)?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on February 10, 2019, 01:34:13 AM
Some individuals claim that it's a sinister front for the Tavistock Institute. Certain words and phrases, that deal with those claims, are censored, and members can be banned from the forum if they "get too close to the truth".
They have been on campaigns where they want you to join for a fee, and coincidentally around the same time, they blocked large groups of IPs for silly reasons that many people think was just to get the users to join with the fee.  But that settled down.  GLP has a lot of users, kind of like Craigslist forums do.  With that many people, there is a lot of nonsense and a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel posts.  I don't think I've ever participated much in any meaningful communication there, but I have picked up interesting links and information.  Some of the users are sincere, good people.  But you have to wade through so much crap.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 10, 2019, 01:58:31 AM
I've been out of the loop for five years (not in prison BTW), so this is inside baseball to me. Do you have a link to one of these clips that I can watch when I'm in a particularly masochistic mood (like I need more pain)?

I wouldn't know where to look for them either.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 10, 2019, 04:40:25 AM
They have been on campaigns where they want you to join for a fee, and coincidentally around the same time, they blocked large groups of IPs for silly reasons that many people think was just to get the users to join with the fee.  But that settled down.  GLP has a lot of users, kind of like Craigslist forums do.  With that many people, there is a lot of nonsense and a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel posts.  I don't think I've ever participated much in any meaningful communication there, but I have picked up interesting links and information.  Some of the users are sincere, good people.  But you have to wade through so much crap.

I posted there for a while. Like you said, it was a mix of good and bad, as well as normal and weird. I also got banned a few times for unknown reasons, and I got flamed many times for unknown reasons. There wasn't much godlike about that forum.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 10, 2019, 04:43:51 AM
I wouldn't know where to look for them either.

It's just as well. Watching them sounds about as fun as chewing tinfoil with your dental fillings.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 10, 2019, 08:00:43 AM
Some individuals claim that it's a sinister front for the Tavistock Institute. Certain words and phrases, that deal with those claims, are censored, and members can be banned from the forum if they "get too close to the truth".

So you're saying it's like every other paranormal forum out there including Bellgrab? The gravesite of Saul Alinsky flowers anew! :'(

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 10, 2019, 08:02:33 AM
They have been on campaigns where they want you to join for a fee, and coincidentally around the same time, they blocked large groups of IPs for silly reasons that many people think was just to get the users to join with the fee.  But that settled down.  GLP has a lot of users, kind of like Craigslist forums do.  With that many people, there is a lot of nonsense and a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel posts.  I don't think I've ever participated much in any meaningful communication there, but I have picked up interesting links and information.  Some of the users are sincere, good people.  But you have to wade through so much crap.
Have you ever tried the almost mordant "Fantastic Forum"? I'd be interested in your opinion on that one.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 10, 2019, 08:09:31 AM
Meanwhile back in Fight Club/Bellgrab the dick doctor and jagoffstar have turned on...wait for it...Starr Mountain of all people!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 10, 2019, 08:11:18 AM
And of course DPS, who's also on the MD/Jag hit list took a particularly nasty swipe at Starr as well:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 10, 2019, 04:07:14 PM
So you're saying it's like every other paranormal forum out there including Bellgrab? The gravesite of Saul Alinsky flowers anew! :'(

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Bell Gab is NSA, not Tavistock. By the way, how much did Barack pay for that headstone?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 10, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
Bell Gab is NSA, not Tavistock. By the way, how much did Barack pay for that headstone?
I think it was a few dollar's less than Heather's tribute stone to Art... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 07:55:17 AM
And so (predictably) after attacking Starr the dick doctor has one of his favorite punching bags back:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 07:57:49 AM
While outraged beta male VC froths on...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on February 11, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
Impossible to know. Things have happened, then other things happened, things always happen and here we are. What you don't know is whether other things happened or things didn't happen we would still be here we are, or who knows what it would have been. It certainly is different here than there. Whatever. I like here better than there, in case you were wondering. It seems way too bitey elsewhere.

I happened here on the first day it was, because I was looking at the Barttweet and saw a message about it. Oh, I know, hang on. You arrived 4 days after I did. You were late! What were you doing?
What happens next with your above conclusion?

I don't understand the issue between here and there. I likely will live out my life happily not, so all is well on that front. OH. I am not sure about the impolite thing. I see things I find funny, and I see things I don't understand for whatever reason. There is that thing people seem to do - internetting - carrying on for reactions or whatever. I don't always know who is doing what but I am always on the look out for funnies. I hope your feelings weren't hurt by an impolite. Did you follow up with him to see why that happened?

No need to retract I don't think. I'm a bit on the literal side, which adds to the amount of funs I get to have, so was just saying it looked like an opinion vs fact. Even facts can be squishy. But I don't have all that many problems with the thoughts other people have. On occasion, yes, but not terribly frequent.

Naw, it isn't my thought that you need to apologize. I just came along to give you a 1+ that day, and thought I'd pipe in what came to mind when I did it. I think all is well. And thank you for caring enough to clarify and whatnot, that is pretty nice.

edit adding @Azzerae so you can see I answered.   :)

@anniem . You are my new guru
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 10:06:49 AM
VC just keeps begging for recognition, so...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 10:15:00 AM
Oh my the dick doctor is triggered but lacking local targets to ventilate, tsk...

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
VC just keeps begging for recognition, so...

That douche keeps bitching about Dave ruining the format of MITD by cutting it back to three hours. The same three hours that Art Bell did during the 4-5 months or so that he hosted MITD. I don’t remember him bitching in 2015. 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 10:49:49 AM
That douche keeps bitching about Dave ruining the format of MITD by cutting it back to three hours. The same three hours that Art Bell did during the 6 months or so that he hosted MITD. I don’t remember him bitching in 2015.
To be fair I don't remember VC even existing in 2015!

That said, the major gripe is with having multiple guests and the interviews becoming too short. I think with a single guest there is better depth of subject and more listener calls are possible.

But given VC is just a griper the target shifts as necessary. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
Meanwhile the dick doctor is patting his own back for apparently running paladin off again! Goodness, that one is one armed banning bandit! ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 11, 2019, 12:11:36 PM
VC just keeps begging for recognition, so...
What's next over there, will they be resurrecting Yorkshire pud?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Gd5150 on February 11, 2019, 12:26:04 PM
But given VC is just a griper the target shifts as necessary. :-\

Profile established 3 mo ago. I always figured it was MD. Both have identical obsession with Metron.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 11, 2019, 02:58:23 PM
Meanwhile the dick doctor is patting his own back for apparently running paladin off again! Goodness, that one is one armed banning bandit! ;D
Are you saying that the good Dr. has been afforded some modicum of power? IE access to the ban button?  I really should read up on all this drama, I've no idea what's going on :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 11, 2019, 03:17:30 PM
What's next over there, will they be resurrecting Yorkshire pud?

I miss Yorkie, but I miss his housemate, @Laurakinch more.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 11, 2019, 03:27:14 PM
I miss Yorkie, but I miss his housemate, @Laurakinch more.
What ever happened to him? He posted here for a while and then disappeared. If I recall correctly, he was into R/C aircraft.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 03:39:51 PM
What's next over there, will they be resurrecting Yorkshire pud?
Or Tiny Hands convention? Likely not, I know who THC is, lol... :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 03:42:58 PM
Profile established 3 mo ago. I always figured it was MD. Both have identical obsession with Metron.
A little bird twigged me to that one yesterday, the dick doctor is so inept at argumentation and debate that he simply had to sock up and try for a puppet win. Rewarding to know it would have been a twofer dox.  My observation is that as trolls go MD is virile for a wee fella, but impotent at factual grappling, ergo his horror at receiving any text citations, lol... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
Are you saying that the good Dr. has been afforded some modicum of power? IE access to the ban button?  I really should read up on all this drama, I've no idea what's going on :-\

Please, do wade in. The water's fine. A school of dox fry are bedeviling the poor dick doctor's ego diaper though, so no more pedicures today. :)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 03:47:53 PM
I miss Yorkie, but I miss his housemate, @Laurakinch more.
Ditto that, she's most enjoyable, and Pud's a fine speed bag to work out on.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 04:02:19 PM
The dick doctor goes for a cross-group troll and gets - PWND, LOL! ;D

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 04:02:56 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 11, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
I think it was a few dollar's less than Heather's tribute stone to Art... ::)

I missed that one. I take it that it wasn't the Taj Mahal.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 11, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
:)

It's weird that you're the one that got banned. MD must be MV's special needs nephew with impulse control problems.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 05:36:03 PM
I missed that one. I take it that it wasn't the Taj Mahal.
Not even the promised Art Bell Memorial park bench... :-\

https://www.gofundme.com/5xtjhrs
The On The Fringe group on Facebook, is raising money for a memorial bench and plaque for Art Bell, to be placed in the Calvada Eye Park near the water feature in the city of Pahrump NV. I have submitted an application to the city, to get a grant to help us with the bench. I’ll update you when I receive any information.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 11, 2019, 05:39:46 PM
It's weird that you're the one that got banned. MD must be MV's special needs nephew with impulse control problems.
Brig/grub must be horrified to know she's dropped down from most favored troll status... :'(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on February 11, 2019, 07:14:49 PM
@anniem . You are my new guru

Thank you, sweet!
I am at my best when well rested.
How are you doing?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on February 11, 2019, 09:40:29 PM
Thank you, sweet!
I am at my best when well rested.
How are you doing?

Hanging in there. Pretty much
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on February 12, 2019, 05:20:11 AM
Hanging in there. Pretty much

I'm heading to work. On a cold train car.   :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 08:14:08 AM
Time for today's regularly scheduled...TRIGGERING!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 08:28:35 AM
And the Kid tears a morsel off the dick doctor's hide:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 08:29:57 AM
But the headless horseman teeters on:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 12, 2019, 09:33:46 AM
Quote of the day:

A bad day fishing at Ellgab is better than a good day at work Bellgab

Disclaimer: not implying that there are ever bad days at Ellgab  8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Gd5150 on February 12, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
Anyone know what happened to WienerInHand? I liked that guy and his tales from the road.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 12, 2019, 11:48:48 AM
Anyone know what happened to WienerInHand? I liked that guy and his tales from the road.

He made a donation to one of our charities and then someone dinged him on his karma and he took it personally. So then he went to BG for awhile. The Troll Triumvirate™️ kept shitting up his thread so he quit in disgust. I enjoyed his posts.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 12:12:31 PM
Anyone know what happened to WienerInHand? I liked that guy and his tales from the road.
Weiner is still out there doing his thing and if you wish to interact with him I can pass a message on to him and see if he's open to sharing his feed with you. No promises, but I'm happy to pass the traffic along. 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 12:15:13 PM
Meanwhile back in Bellgab the dick doctor is beginning to catch some karmic ripples from shitting up the ponce pond with his pusillanimous pribbling piety:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Gd5150 on February 12, 2019, 12:33:06 PM
Weiner is still out there doing his thing and if you wish to interact with him I can pass a message on to him and see if he's open to sharing his feed with you. No promises, but I'm happy to pass the traffic along. 8)

Yeah go for it. I like the whole long haul trucker lifestyle. Always sounded fun to me.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 12:36:45 PM
Yeah go for it. I like the whole long haul trucker lifestyle. Always sounded fun to me.
Done - I'll pass it on back when I hear from him. ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 12, 2019, 04:56:07 PM
Not even the promised Art Bell Memorial park bench... :-\

https://www.gofundme.com/5xtjhrs
The On The Fringe group on Facebook, is raising money for a memorial bench and plaque for Art Bell, to be placed in the Calvada Eye Park near the water feature in the city of Pahrump NV. I have submitted an application to the city, to get a grant to help us with the bench. I’ll update you when I receive any information.

I bet that Jim Marrs and Brad Steiger got better remembrances. They both passed around the same that Art did, which showed that bad things came in threes.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 12, 2019, 04:57:35 PM
Brig/grub must be horrified to know she's dropped down from most favored troll status... :'(

I don't even know who that is. Maybe that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 05:13:33 PM
I bet that Jim Marrs and Brad Steiger got better remembrances. They both passed around the same that Art did, which showed that bad things came in threes.
That "threes" equation has always intrigued me - so many times it works, so many that it can't be automatically dismissed.

Heather gets painted rocks, Art gets nada.  :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 12, 2019, 05:14:37 PM
I don't even know who that is. Maybe that's a good thing.
"One ringy dingy" sound a bell for you? Grub was the monicker brig had over here. 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 08:46:40 AM
VC brings the hate as the dick doctor wars on Kidnostad:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 08:52:14 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 13, 2019, 04:14:07 PM
Mv is acting like he did back in June he barely posts anymore even where he is logged in.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 04:19:11 PM
So you foresee another hiatus in the offing?

I guess this means no gabcast... :'(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 13, 2019, 04:24:09 PM
Mv is acting like he did back in June he barely posts anymore even where he is logged in.

Him and @brig are too busy sexting.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 04:26:42 PM
Him and @brig are too busy sexting.

So you're saying it's not just "one ringy dingy"... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on February 13, 2019, 04:29:17 PM
So you're saying it's not just "one ringy dingy"... ::) ::)

Did I say “sexting”?  Damn autocorrect. I meant “sorting out the details of his visit.”
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 04:38:35 PM
Did I say “sexting”?  Damn autocorrect. I meant “sorting out the details of his visit.”
Heh... :-X

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Post by: disclosure on February 13, 2019, 04:42:39 PM
LOL

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Post by: 26 horses on February 13, 2019, 04:46:32 PM
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 13, 2019, 05:26:10 PM
That "threes" equation has always intrigued me - so many times it works, so many that it can't be automatically dismissed.

Heather gets painted rocks, Art gets nada.  :(

Those were three tragic strikes, and they struck out my fascination with conspiracies and the paranormal. It was like the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and the Who dying in the same plane crash in the late '60s.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 13, 2019, 05:27:37 PM
"One ringy dingy" sound a bell for you? Grub was the monicker brig had over here. 8)

Are you saying that Lily Tomlin posts on these forums? Who knew?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MAX on February 13, 2019, 05:30:03 PM
Him and @brig are too busy sexting.

As she is old enough to be his mother that’s a little too weird to be believable.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 13, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
;D ;D ;D

Let's start a charity to help Kidnostad immigrate to Ell Gab. The fund would help refugees flee tyranny.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Bobs Your Uncle on February 13, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
Let's start a charity to help Kidnostad immigrate to Ell Gab. The fund would help refugees flee tyranny.

My bad, I first read that as "tranny"
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 13, 2019, 08:18:52 PM
Odd that this metron incarnation tries to be polite to GS when just a couple short months ago he was ranting about him as if he were satan himself elsewhere. I do recall a rant involving accusing GS of using his glass eye as if it were anal beads I believe.

I guess when faced with not being able to bask in your own imagined enlightened glory for all to behold on every thread in either forum even these behaviors change quickly.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 08:16:15 AM
Let's start a charity to help Kidnostad immigrate to Ell Gab. The fund would help refugees flee tyranny.
Ellgab legal immigration only. Would Kidnostad qualify as a dreamer?  :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:18:34 AM
As she is old enough to be his mother that’s a little too weird to be believable.
Look when Brig PMs you shots like this, you're really going to focus on age?

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:21:19 AM
Those were three tragic strikes, and they struck out my fascination with conspiracies and the paranormal. It was like the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and the Who dying in the same plane crash in the late '60s.
I still grieve the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash. :'(

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:23:00 AM
My bad, I first read that as "tranny"
Lol, double clutch! :o

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:24:51 AM
Ellgab legal immigration only. Would Kidnostad qualify as a dreamer?  :)

More of an expat given:Date Registered: July 05, 2018, 06:47:35 PM Last Active: February 11, 2019, 11:04:04 AM :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:26:40 AM
And over in Fight Club the dick doctor continues his naked aggression against Starr!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 08:37:40 AM
I still grieve the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash. :'(

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I remember when Lynyrd Skynyrd formed in the 1960's and grew into one of our most notable hometown talents. Also remember very well the plane crash in the 1970's.

Here is a news report and interview one of our local news stations did last year with the current incarnation of the band: https://www.news4jax.com/entertainment/lynyrd-skynyrd-members-open-up-about-their-future-after-their-farewell-tour (https://www.news4jax.com/entertainment/lynyrd-skynyrd-members-open-up-about-their-future-after-their-farewell-tour)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Wow, thanks for that. I remain a huge Skynyrd fan, in any iteration. So neat to know solid values have been with them all along. The recently passed Ed King was a freaking genius!

Enjoy:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 09:34:43 AM
Odd that this metron incarnation tries to be polite to GS when just a couple short months ago he was ranting about him as if he were satan himself elsewhere. I do recall a rant involving accusing GS of using his glass eye as if it were anal beads I believe.

You recall NOTHING of the sort where I was concerned, you lying toad-fart.

In fact the only poster to fixate on a "glass eye" was the now banned ZaZa, as you already knew before you lied.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 09:48:07 AM
Wow, thanks for that. I remain a huge Skynyrd fan, in any iteration. So neat to know solid values have been with them all along. The recently passed Ed King was a freaking genius!
Although I never met any of them in person, local friends I have known that did meet them and know them all say they were down-to-earth and kind people in spite of all they have been through.

One bit of trivia: When Jacksonville hosted the Super Bowl in 2005, there was a grassroots effort to get Fox and the NFL to have Lynyrd Skynyrd as the Super Bowl halftime performers. It would have been great to see them doing the halftime show, but the effort fell short and Fox and the NFL decided to have Paul McCartney do the halftime show. Lynyrd Skynyrd did however headline a live CMT special, "Lynyrd Skynyrd's Super Bowl Saturday Night Special", at the Arena next to the stadium the Saturday night before the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: juan on February 14, 2019, 10:38:54 AM
Is Tom Wills still living on his reporting of the Skynyrd plane crash?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
Although I never met any of them in person, local friends I have known that did meet them and know them all say they were down-to-earth and kind people in spite of all they have been through.

That really comes through in this interview too - solid values and God first. I like how they have no qualms rationalizing their partying - like the Creator didn't intend for us to have any fun at all?!? ::)

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One bit of trivia: When Jacksonville hosted the Super Bowl in 2005, there was a grassroots effort to get Fox and the NFL to have Lynyrd Skynyrd as the Super Bowl halftime performers. It would have been great to see them doing the halftime show, but the effort fell short and Fox and the NFL decided to have Paul McCartney do the halftime show. Lynyrd Skynyrd did however headline a live CMT special, "Lynyrd Skynyrd's Super Bowl Saturday Night Special", at the Arena next to the stadium the Saturday night before the Super Bowl.

Crap, I remember that McCartney thing! Now i'm peeved because I missed that special at the time...but youtube didn't:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 11:15:28 AM
That really comes through in this interview too - solid values and God first. I like how they have no qualms rationalizing their partying - like the Creator didn't intend for us to have any fun at all?!? ::)

Crap, I remember that McCartney thing! Now i'm peeved because I missed that special at the time...but youtube didn't:


Cool, I didn't realize that concert was on Youtube  :D    Brings back good memories. At the beginning of the video, Warren Moon introduces the band. I recall seeing him in one of the restaurants during the week before the Super Bowl along with other celebrities. That whole week before the game transformed the city, especially the downtown area, into a party atmosphere. Tons of people, no nearby parking, and events going on all around the area.

And who won the game? The Patriots ... again  :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 11:23:19 AM
Is Tom Wills still living on his reporting of the Skynyrd plane crash?
It seem like Tom has been around forever. I remember his reporting on that crash when it happened.
Here is his "Uncut 1977 documentary: 'Need All My Friends'" on the band and the crash and the aftermath:


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 11:24:08 AM
And some comments on the Skynyrd show - muddy audio on too many key solos, especially:

~ Charlie Daniels fiddle on "The South's Gonna Do It"

~ Gary Rossington's eponymous slide guitar intro to  "Free Bird" (at least we heard the birdies)

But in the final few minutes Ricky Medlocke simply detonates the solo at the end of "Free Bird" and pays the way for the entire show. This was new to me and I hope ya'll enjoyed it!

 ;D ;D ;D

ps - TNX Max for the documentary, watching it now. And Yeah those darn Patriots punked the Iggles sumpin' fierce. ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 11:33:38 AM
And some comments on the Skynyrd show - muddy audio on too many key solos, especially:

~ Charlie Daniels fiddle on "The South's Gonna Do It"

~ Gary Rossington's eponymous slide guitar intro to  "Free Bird" (at least we heard the birdies)

But in the final few minutes Ricky Medlocke simply detonates the solo at the end of "Free Bird" and pays the way for the entire show. This was new to me and I hope ya'll enjoyed it!

 ;D ;D ;D

ps - TNX Max for the documentary, watching it now. And Yeah those darn Patriots punked the Iggles sumpin' fierce. ;)
Good points on the concert. I saw it live on TV when it first aired (didn't go to it as it was sold out early on) and didn't remember some of it until I watched it again today. I think I still have a couple of the Skynyrd albums on 8 track tapes  :)
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Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 11:41:05 AM
Is Tom Wills still living on his reporting of the Skynyrd plane crash?

I guess that happens, but you know what, this is actual news reportage - not the fake news op/ed newspeak we get from the communal teevee trough.

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Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 11:47:41 AM
Good points on the concert. I saw it live on TV when it first aired (didn't go to it as it was sold out early on) and didn't remember some of it until I watched it again today. I think I still have a couple of the Skynyrd albums on 8 track tapes  :)
Hang on to those, they have some minor residual value, at least in the collector car world. Guys love to load a restored vehicle with authentic 8 track tapes for car shows and auctions.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LYNYRD-SKYNYRD-PRONOUNCED-LEH-NERD-SKIN-NERD-8-TRACK-TAPE-CARTRIDGE/273592634943?hash=item3fb3644e3f:g:IH4AAOSwbX1cBWtI:rk:2:pf:0
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This was a real trip to go back and re-experience something from 41+ years ago! Oh...feeling a bit long in the tooth I am... ::)
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Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 12:00:45 PM
Another Lynyrd Skynyrd tidbit: In 1999 Judy Van Zant and daughter Melody Van Zant opened the Freebird Café (later named Freebird Live) in Jacksonville Beach. It had a lot of Lynyrd Skynyrd memorabilia, food, recorded music, and known live bands over its 16 year run. It closed in 2016, so sad to see it go  :(   The Charlie Daniels Band and the Gregg Allman Band played there among others.
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Post by: MaxPower on February 14, 2019, 12:10:20 PM
Hang on to those, they have some minor residual value, at least in the collector car world. Guys love to load a restored vehicle with authentic 8 track tapes for car shows and auctions.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LYNYRD-SKYNYRD-PRONOUNCED-LEH-NERD-SKIN-NERD-8-TRACK-TAPE-CARTRIDGE/273592634943?hash=item3fb3644e3f:g:IH4AAOSwbX1cBWtI:rk:2:pf:0
LYNYRD SKYNYRD - PRONOUNCED LEH-NERD SKIN-NERD 8-TRACK TAPE CARTRIDGE
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This was a real trip to go back and re-experience something from 41+ years ago! Oh...feeling a bit long in the tooth I am... ::)
I will have to see if I can find them. The problem with some of the old magnetic tapes is that they deteriorate over time and hopefully since they have been stored vertically and in an air-conditioned environment, they will still be playable. I inherited some reel-to-reel tapes from the 1950's and some of them are separating layers (I don't know how they were stored prior to me getting them).
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 01:15:30 PM
I will have to see if I can find them. The problem with some of the old magnetic tapes is that they deteriorate over time and hopefully since they have been stored vertically and in an air-conditioned environment, they will still be playable. I inherited some reel-to-reel tapes from the 1950's and some of them are separating layers (I don't know how they were stored prior to me getting them).
Roger that, I think * tracks have a better lifespan due to the enclosure. I used to do reel to reel and it does wear out unless you have some of the metal tapes.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 14, 2019, 03:56:57 PM
My bad, I first read that as "tranny"

It's understandable. Thanks to social engineering, we see trannies everywhere.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 14, 2019, 04:02:28 PM
Ellgab legal immigration only. Would Kidnostad qualify as a dreamer?  :)

I can't say for sure. He would qualify as one if he continues to post there, expecting nontoxic responses.
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Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 14, 2019, 04:05:49 PM
I still grieve the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash. :'(

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That was a huge loss. I still grieve the good music crash.
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Post by: 26 horses on February 14, 2019, 04:09:26 PM
That was a huge loss. I still grieve the good music crash.
Ya buddy! Couldn't have said it better myself. Digging how the millenials are going back to the real stuff, that's priceless. 8)
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Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 14, 2019, 04:19:23 PM
Ya buddy! Couldn't have said it better myself. Digging how the millenials are going back to the real stuff, that's priceless. 8)

For the first time in my adult life, I can't name four songs in the pop music Top Forty. You mention the decline, and you hear the same cliches: "all generations say that about kids' music" and "you just have to search for good music". Well, most of my generation didn't say that our generation's music stunk, and you shouldn't have to hunt for great tunes. Don McClean was about thirty years too early with "the day the music died" since we had many great songs since Buddy Holly and his fellow singers passed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 14, 2019, 05:42:07 PM
I still grieve the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash. :'(

I consider it the end of the golden period of R&R and the beginning of crap music - starting with disco.  The friend who introduced them to me and I were going to see them when they got to Spokane. 

I never did go see the band after the crash, it couldn't have been the same without Ronnie Van Zant.  Did they have any successful albums afterward?
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Post by: PB on February 14, 2019, 05:46:48 PM
For the first time in my adult life, I can't name four songs in the pop music Top Forty. You mention the decline, and you hear the same cliches: "all generations say that about kids' music" and "you just have to search for good music". Well, most of my generation didn't say that our generation's music stunk, and you shouldn't have to hunt for great tunes. Don McClean was about thirty years too early with "the day the music died" since we had many great songs since Buddy Holly and his fellow singers passed.

There are actually people out there who think the 80s were the best years for music, and (fewer) others who claim that for the 90s.  Haven't heard anyone make those claims for any period since.
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Post by: KSM32 on February 14, 2019, 08:05:58 PM
There are actually people out there who think the 80s were the best years for music, and (fewer) others who claim that for the 90s.  Haven't heard anyone make those claims for any period since.
Most of the musical chart toppers in the last 15 - 20 years have fake (canned) drums, presets (amplifier simulators) in place of real guitar and bass amps) and autotuned vocals etc.   The human ear gets very wise to music that has had the humanity sucked right the fuck out of it and at the end of the day, even the most soul dead waste of space hip hopper knows he's been takin for a less than musical ride
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Post by: MaxPower on February 15, 2019, 09:57:14 AM
Most of the musical chart toppers in the last 15 - 20 years have fake (canned) drums, presets (amplifier simulators) in place of real guitar and bass amps) and autotuned vocals etc.   The human ear gets very wise to music that has had the humanity sucked right the fuck out of it and at the end of the day, even the most soul dead waste of space hip hopper knows he's been takin for a less than musical ride
Parallels to this in the current state of the movie industry. Sometimes it seem CGI, special effects, and other bells and whistles have taken the place of good solid acting by real people.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 15, 2019, 10:07:12 AM
For the first time in my adult life, I can't name four songs in the pop music Top Forty. You mention the decline, and you hear the same cliches: "all generations say that about kids' music" and "you just have to search for good music". Well, most of my generation didn't say that our generation's music stunk, and you shouldn't have to hunt for great tunes. Don McClean was about thirty years too early with "the day the music died" since we had many great songs since Buddy Holly and his fellow singers passed.
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 :'(
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Post by: 26 horses on February 15, 2019, 10:14:39 AM
I consider it the end of the golden period of R&R and the beginning of crap music - starting with disco.  The friend who introduced them to me and I were going to see them when they got to Spokane. 

I never did go see the band after the crash, it couldn't have been the same without Ronnie Van Zant.  Did they have any successful albums afterward?

Oh for sure they did and continue to.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/261760-Lynyrd-Skynyrd?filter_anv=0&subtype=Albums&type=Releases

https://bestclassicbands.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-plane-crash-10-20-17/

Following the deaths, the album made it to #5 but the toll of the crash was too much on the band, and they split up. Rossington, Collins, Wilkeson and Powell re-formed in 1980 and released two albums as the Rossington-Collins Band, with a woman, Dale Krantz, singing lead. In 1987, a full decade after the accident, a new Lynyrd Skynyrd was formed, with Rossington, Powell, Wilkeson and Pyle, plus the band’s original guitarist Ed King, and Ronnie Van Zant’s younger brother, Johnny. He and Rossington still lead a version of Lynyrd Skynyrd today, but most fans agree that nothing will ever top the classic lineup that was so horrifically impacted by a malfunctioning aircraft only four years into their run.

Lynyrd Skynyrd was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2006.


The cover for the album released immediately after their death is creepy foreshadowing defined:

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That's guitarist Steve Gaines(RIP) sporting the largest flame to the center.
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Post by: 26 horses on February 15, 2019, 10:15:53 AM
Parallels to this in the current state of the movie industry. Sometimes it seem CGI, special effects, and other bells and whistles have taken the place of good solid acting by real people.

+1 !
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Post by: 26 horses on February 15, 2019, 10:16:58 AM
Today on the Bellgrab drama dais we find ranting VC triggered and off to the races again, lol:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 04:44:50 PM
There are actually people out there who think the 80s were the best years for music, and (fewer) others who claim that for the 90s.  Haven't heard anyone make those claims for any period since.

I'm one of those people who think that the '80s were the best decade for all music. The '70s probably were the best for AOR rock. Except for alternative rock, it seems like most genres declined at some point after 9/11. Now, we're at the sad point where Drake and Ariana Grande are 2019's answer to Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston, which proves that the ancient Mayans were right.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 15, 2019, 04:46:43 PM
I like the "all music" qualifier. Not sure I completely agree, but as a Jazz fan I'm persuaded a bit. Suffice to say the 80s kick anything out today. 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 04:53:46 PM
Most of the musical chart toppers in the last 15 - 20 years have fake (canned) drums, presets (amplifier simulators) in place of real guitar and bass amps) and autotuned vocals etc.   The human ear gets very wise to music that has had the humanity sucked right the fuck out of it and at the end of the day, even the most soul dead waste of space hip hopper knows he's been takin for a less than musical ride

I call it "processed music". It's the aural equivalent of Spam, and it tastes worse to your ears.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 04:59:52 PM
Parallels to this in the current state of the movie industry. Sometimes it seem CGI, special effects, and other bells and whistles have taken the place of good solid acting by real people.

I'm the same way about movies as I am about music now, and I'm absolutely clueless about current TV shows. Those might be my worst things when I play "Jeopardy". Speaking of present films, we need a new superhero flick like we need a hole in the head, which speaks to your good point about bells and whistles. It's telling that "Black Panther" is up for an Affirmative Action Oscar.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
I like the "all music" qualifier. Not sure I completely agree, but as a Jazz fan I'm persuaded a bit. Suffice to say the 80s kick anything out today. 8)

I'm agnostic on jazz. Its fans always dissed my fave bands in high school, so I have a chip on my shoulder about "jazz snobs".  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 15, 2019, 06:50:41 PM
Oh for sure they did and continue to.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/261760-Lynyrd-Skynyrd?filter_anv=0&subtype=Albums&type=Releases

https://bestclassicbands.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-plane-crash-10-20-17/

Following the deaths, the album made it to #5 but the toll of the crash was too much on the band, and they split up. Rossington, Collins, Wilkeson and Powell re-formed in 1980 and released two albums as the Rossington-Collins Band, with a woman, Dale Krantz, singing lead. In 1987, a full decade after the accident, a new Lynyrd Skynyrd was formed, with Rossington, Powell, Wilkeson and Pyle, plus the band’s original guitarist Ed King, and Ronnie Van Zant’s younger brother, Johnny. He and Rossington still lead a version of Lynyrd Skynyrd today, but most fans agree that nothing will ever top the classic lineup that was so horrifically impacted by a malfunctioning aircraft only four years into their run.

Lynyrd Skynyrd was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2006.


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That's guitarist Steve Gaines(RIP) sporting the largest flame to the center.

I realize the original band did the Street Survivors album, I meant did the others have any real commercial success (not that commercial success is the ultimate determination of worthiness).  I've listened to a couple albums put out in later years by the new lineup (it's been years) and my recollection is they were terrible.  And this is from someone who likes every track on every album put out by the original band.

I bought and still have the first Rossington-Collins record, and I've picked up a few of the Street Survivors albums with the flames at places like flea markets and garage sales over the years - I should be able to put together several mint albums from that collection.

Once, long after that album cover had been recalled, I came home from school and went to the mall.  The JC Penny there had a some record bins in the basement that no one ever looked at.  There must have been 30 Street Survivors albums with the flames there.  Brand new, still in the plastic wrapper.  I knew to buy them, but had no money. 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on February 15, 2019, 07:23:22 PM
Musical discussion is fantastic ain't it! But perhaps we could rein it in and get back on track to discussing which forum is the real puppy kicker.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
In the 1970s there must have been 50 great bans, each putting out at least one album a year, plus live albums.  Meaning usually at least a couple awesome albums came out every week or so. 

Did that happen in the 80s, or any time since?  No.  There were an endless parade of hot women on MTV vids, I'll give you that

That last sentence sounds like something a "get off my lawn" Baby Boomer would say. The '80s had a ton of great hard rock and heavy metal bands and songs, as well as CDs. Even album rock (AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Van Halen) was close to the Me Decade. Judas Priest hit their stride then when they released "British Steel". Guns And Roses and Metallica appeared on the scene, and Iron Maiden was huge in the UK. You had great new artists (Depeche Mode, U2, REM, Simple Minds) and great old artists (Rolling Stones, Kinks, Paul McCartney, ZZ Top), as well as great cusp artists (Cars, Police, Blondie, Talking Heads) playing on the same radio stations. Also, new wave, synth pop, hard core, hip hop, goth, rockabilly, reggae, and ska could be heard on the airwaves during this decade, and college rock (the Cure, the Smiths, Violent Femmes, etc.) was huge, which gave birth to the alternative rock scene. Man, it was the Golden Age of music, and it had much more going for it than hot chicks on MTV, although that was fun too.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 15, 2019, 07:35:09 PM
Musical discussion is fantastic ain't it! But perhaps we could rein it in and get back on track to discussing which forum is the real puppy kicker.

It's cool. I might start a new thread on the subject or a like topic.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on February 15, 2019, 08:14:39 PM
That last sentence sounds like something a "get off my lawn" Baby Boomer would say. The '80s had a ton of great hard rock and heavy metal bands and songs, as well as CDs. Even album rock (AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Van Halen) was close to the Me Decade. Judas Priest hit their stride then when they released "British Steel". Guns And Roses and Metallica appeared on the scene, and Iron Maiden was huge in the UK. You had great new artists (Depeche Mode, U2, REM, Simple Minds) and great old artists (Rolling Stones, Kinks, Paul McCartney, ZZ Top), as well as great cusp artists (Cars, Police, Blondie, Talking Heads) playing on the same radio stations. Also, new wave, synth pop, hard core, hip hop, goth, rockabilly, reggae, and ska could be heard on the airwaves during this decade, and college rock (the Cure, the Smiths, Violent Femmes, etc.) was huge, which gave birth to the alternative rock scene. Man, it was the Golden Age of music, and it had much more going for it than hot chicks on MTV, although that was fun too.

Yeahhh, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Van Halen, Judas Priest, Guns And Roses, Metallica, Depeche Mode, U2, REM, Simple Minds, Cars, Police, Blondie, Talking Heads, the Cure, the Smiths, Violent Femmes - the ones you listed that are truly of the 80s... I just don't think it's comparable, or close, let alone superior.  Out of that I'd take Talking Heads, and I guess Van Halen, but they'd have been invisible in the 70s.

 
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Post by: GravitySucks on February 15, 2019, 08:27:27 PM
Yeahhh, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Van Halen, Judas Priest, Guns And Roses, Metallica, Depeche Mode, U2, REM, Simple Minds, Cars, Police, Blondie, Talking Heads, the Cure, the Smiths, Violent Femmes - the ones you listed that are truly of the 80s... I just don't think it's comparable, or close, let alone superior.  Out of that I'd take Talking Heads, and I guess Van Halen, but they'd have been invisible in the 70s.

Someone better hurry up an mention Devo or I am going to cop an attitude.

Glad no one mentioned Genesis.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Rikki Gins on February 15, 2019, 08:50:08 PM
Someone better hurry up an mention Devo or I am going to cop an attitude.

Glad no one mentioned Genesis.

OK, I'll mention Devo.  I used to be a big Devo fan back in the day.  I got all their music on cassettes and then CDs, but you know, they just didn't age well for me and I eventually gave the CD's away or sold them at yard sales.  It was the same for almost all the other music that I liked to watch/hear on MTV.  I don't know why, but I just don't play most of it anymore.  I still like Kraftwerk and one or two other bands, though.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 15, 2019, 10:20:37 PM
Today on the Bellgrab drama dais we find ranting VC triggered and off to the races again, lol:
Nobody cares and you’re a huge sack of crap
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 16, 2019, 09:17:00 AM
Someone better hurry up an mention Devo or I am going to cop an attitude.

Glad no one mentioned Genesis.

Or fugging Supertramp...ugghhh... :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 16, 2019, 09:18:31 AM
Nobody cares and you’re a huge sack of crap
Have a goatse pizza, ranked voting nitwit:

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Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 16, 2019, 05:15:58 PM
Have a goatse pizza, ranked voting nitwit:

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I do enjoy a pizza but just had it last night.  Don’t stray from the RNC safe space and demonstrate any independent thought or God forbid act on them.  You do seem like a low energy Jeb guy.
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Post by: KSM32 on February 16, 2019, 05:18:49 PM
I'm having pork chops :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 16, 2019, 09:04:59 PM
OK, I'll mention Devo.  I used to be a big Devo fan back in the day.  I got all their music on cassettes and then CDs, but you know, they just didn't age well for me and I eventually gave the CD's away or sold them at yard sales.  It was the same for almost all the other music that I liked to watch/hear on MTV.  I don't know why, but I just don't play most of it anymore.  I still like Kraftwerk and one or two other bands, though.
I remember Devo tried a 3D concert broadcast back in the 1980's. 3D concerts never really caught on though.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 17, 2019, 02:34:33 PM
I do enjoy a pizza but just had it last night.  Don’t stray from the RNC safe space and demonstrate any independent thought or God forbid act on them.  You do seem like a low energy Jeb guy.
You seem like a person who continually makes bad guesses. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 17, 2019, 03:27:39 PM
You seem like a person who continually makes bad guesses. :-\
Not really. But I’m also not a person who is so repugnant and self absorbed as to have to make multiple accounts on forums because his prior personas have been banned.  The only reason I’m banned on the other territory is I followed the fake cancer patient around intentionally making her life miserable. Don’t mind that outcome a bit.
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Post by: 26 horses on February 17, 2019, 03:42:34 PM
Not really. But I’m also not a person who is so repugnant and self absorbed as to have to make multiple accounts on forums because his prior personas have been banned.  The only reason I’m banned on the other territory is I followed the fake cancer patient around intentionally making her life miserable. Don’t mind that outcome a bit.
There was no "fake cancer patient" you incalculably uncompassionate, hateful little troll.

I still speak to that person and the treatments she is undergoing are all too real and all too grueling for a junior grade troll like you to even comprehend.

Congratulations on bringing sadness into a life already overloaded with challenges.

No joke, you truly are an ass. >:(
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Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 17, 2019, 03:48:43 PM
There was no "fake cancer patient" you incalculably uncompassionate, hateful little troll.

I still speak to that person and the treatments she is undergoing are all too real and all too grueling for a junior grade troll like you to even comprehend.

Congratulations on bringing sadness into a life already overloaded with challenges.

No joke, you truly are an ass. >:(
You choose to ignore the truth I guess. Admitted as much herself. Guess when you’re a middle aged basement dweller and someone half your age bats their eyes at you you’ll believe anything.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 17, 2019, 03:55:46 PM
You choose to ignore the truth I guess. Admitted as much herself.

You remain utterly clueless.

She has a robust online support network and her flip comment was designed to shut down haters like yourself, groyper and malachi who were hounding her mercilessly. You don't know her. You don't communicate with her. You just ladle out your own wincingly hateful rhetoric.  >:(

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Guess when you’re a middle aged basement dweller and someone half your age bats their eyes at you you’ll believe anything.

Guess the projector is running again inside your head.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 17, 2019, 04:05:02 PM
Guys, can you call a truce? I came here to get away from that kind of thing. The back and forth ruins any good vibes in this thread. I'm sure that we can do better.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 17, 2019, 04:25:14 PM
You remain utterly clueless.

She has a robust online support network and her flip comment was designed to shut down haters like yourself, groyper and malachi who were hounding her mercilessly. You don't know her. You don't communicate with her. You just ladle out your own wincingly hateful rhetoric.  >:(

Guess the projector is running again inside your head.

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She ask you for cash yet?  That’s usually how this thing goes. Eventually.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 17, 2019, 04:39:12 PM
Guys, can you call a truce? I came here to get away from that kind of thing. The back and forth ruins any good vibes in this thread. I'm sure that we can do better.
I think Enard is cut from the same cloth as MD. Just a hunch... :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 17, 2019, 04:40:24 PM
She ask you for cash yet?  That’s usually how this thing goes. Eventually.
Not me nor the dozens of other friends she has, no. Now please, let her be. :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Enard P Farkwark on February 17, 2019, 04:42:26 PM
It’s regrettable the trash that was once purged from the neighborhood is back. I probably should find more enjoyable things to do with my free time. Too bad. Bart’s a funny guy and the Falkie saga is a continual amusing train wreck.

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Post by: MaxPower on February 18, 2019, 09:25:43 AM
Mv is acting like he did back in June he barely posts anymore even where he is logged in.

So you foresee another hiatus in the offing?

I guess this means no gabcast... :'(
You could be right. When was the last gabcast, seems like several months ago. It's not that difficult for him to put on his little podcast. Maybe he feels it is not worth an hour or two of his time. Has he given up?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 18, 2019, 10:19:31 AM
It’s regrettable the trash that was once purged from the neighborhood is back. I probably should find more enjoyable things to do with my free time. Too bad. Bart’s a funny guy and the Falkie saga is a continual amusing train wreck.

He says while embedding me in his sig file and also forum avatar pane...lol...

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Post by: 26 horses on February 18, 2019, 10:21:50 AM
You could be right. When was the last gabcast, seems like several months ago. It's not that difficult for him to put on his little podcast. Maybe he feels it is not worth an hour or two of his time. Has he given up?
He hasn't given up, I know because we've PMd.

He may just be waiting for the HLW drama train to leave the station again. Consider, DH's last cast was pleasant chatter, but minus Heather and barring she climbs in the Falkie-mobile or invokes Wadegab, what's left? Dave just doesn't do drama... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 18, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
He hasn't given up, I know because we've PMd.

He may just be waiting for the HLW drama train to leave the station again. Consider, DH's last cast was pleasant chatter, but minus Heather and barring she climbs in the Falkie-mobile or invokes Wadegab, what's left? Dave just doesn't do drama... ::)
You should host a Gabcast or Bartcast. That would be quite a show!

Also, what is the deal with White Crow? Bellgab has him dying yet he is alive and posting over here on Ellgab?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 18, 2019, 10:46:04 AM
You should host a Gabcast or Bartcast. That would be quite a show!

Yegods man, be careful what you ask for!@!

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Also, what is the deal with White Crow? Bellgab has him dying yet he is alive and posting over here on Ellgab?

The bi-forum rumors of his passing are greatly exaggerated, eh? I think MV just like to tease him. ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 18, 2019, 03:50:55 PM
You should host a Gabcast or Bartcast. That would be quite a show!

Yegods man, be careful what you ask for!@!
I would envision it as a no-nonsense, tell-it-like-it-is, and take-no-prisoners type of show. Maybe it would go something like this:

Precisely at the top of the hour, the audio begins:

(Cue the Outer Limits style intro voice)

"There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the volume. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the treble. We will control the bass. We can change the sound to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your computer. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to — The Out There Podcast."

(Cue host)

"Welcome to my world. Tonight's show has some exciting topics.

(Optional segment)

But first, a there are a few special guests waiting on the phone lines: Dr MD MD, Yorkshire Pud, and SredniVashtar...

(Fireworks begin)

...

(At the end of the show cue the Outer Limits style exit voice)

"We now return control of your computer to you. Until next week at the same time, when the control voice will take you to – The Out There Podcast."
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 18, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
I think Enard is cut from the same cloth as MD. Just a hunch... :-\

Who's the tailor with the scissors? I blame that guy.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 18, 2019, 03:58:40 PM
He says while embedding me in his sig file and also forum avatar pane...lol...

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Call me crazy, but you should ignore the guy. It may sound insane, but it just might work.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 09:38:23 AM
Heh, did and done. :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 11:55:07 AM
Trigger tyme over in Bellgrab:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 01:14:20 PM
And the dick doctor does it again, lol! 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 19, 2019, 01:28:42 PM
And the dick doctor does it again, lol! 8)
Things are not going well over there at BG. MV can't be happy with the current state of the forum. Sad...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 02:58:21 PM
Things are not going well over there at BG. MV can't be happy with the current state of the forum. Sad...
So here's the thing - at this point we have to say that there has been some sort of unofficial forum bouncer status accorded MD.

If you look in the Bellgab Cartoons thread (day 1) you'll see Azzerae's perceptive comic art on the long leash MV gives the dick doctor. Why?

Well that's the burning question!

 :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 19, 2019, 04:12:35 PM
So here's the thing - at this point we have to say that there has been some sort of unofficial forum bouncer status accorded MD.

If you look in the Bellgab Cartoons thread (day 1) you'll see Azzerae's perceptive comic art on the long leash MV gives the dick doctor. Why?

Well that's the burning question!

 :o

There's no question that that's weird. That's why I burned my bridges.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 19, 2019, 04:16:14 PM
And the dick doctor does it again, lol! 8)

See, that's what I don't get. You were no Gandhi on Bell Gab, but MD was infinitely worse. You got a lifelong ban, and he got a lifelong pass. Does he have a blackmail tape or something?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
There's no question that that's weird. That's why I burned my bridges.
I seem to have singed mine as well - misery loves company?

 ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 05:03:10 PM
See, that's what I don't get. You were no Gandhi on Bell Gab, but MD was infinitely worse. You got a lifelong ban, and he got a lifelong pass. Does he have a blackmail tape or something?

I wish I knew. As before I got a nice set of parting gift PMs before MV kicked me.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 19, 2019, 05:32:25 PM
I seem to have singed mine as well - misery loves company?

 ;D

Some company is misery. I left the bad company.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 19, 2019, 05:33:37 PM
I wish I knew. As before I got a nice set of parting gift PMs before MV kicked me.

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That's a great metaphor for the MSM. Lucy is Juicy.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 06:14:12 PM
Some company is misery. I left the bad company.

Kind of an Indiana Jones move.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 19, 2019, 06:14:37 PM
That's a great metaphor for the MSM. Lucy is Juicy.
LOL!

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 20, 2019, 09:23:40 AM
Dwindling stacks...of users... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 20, 2019, 10:07:31 AM
Dwindling stacks...of users... ::)
With the lack of participating users, I am still trying to understand what is MV's real point in keeping the forum going.

Disclaimer: I am viewing this from my point of view which is if you are not growing then you are dying. I see little to no growth over there. I see no attempts to turn things around or to encourage new membership. No promotion via gabcasts for months and little participation by MV.

My "forum world view" is that a forum's success depends on membership contribution and growth. Forums created and put on auto-pilot without purpose or direction rarely succeed. Coming from my point of view, I would not be happy at all with the current BG status.

Does MV get up in the morning with the excited attitude that he can't wait to log in to BG and see what posters have said and then contribute something, or does MV get up in the morning and dread logging in to BG with the "what fires am I going to have to put out today" attitude? There is a big difference, and it comes across to the other forum members.

I was watching a past episode of Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares the other night. Gordon pulled the owner of the failing restaurant aside and confronts him with "You've given up, haven't you? What happened to that restaurant owner that was once excited about his business?" Once he gets the owner out of denial and gets leverage, he can turn the owner's attitude around. Maybe we need a "Forum Nightmares" show :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 20, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
In a subject verse like the paranormal, and one further refined by the focus on it's now deceased icon (Art Bell), the prospects for growth have to be limited if not terminated both by his passing, but also by the utter flailing failure of his hand-picked "legacy". Suffice to say that lacking a forum traffic generator, such as Ellgab has with Dynamo Hum, BellBanGab is more of a memory hole in the net, a vortex of spiraling inward compression.

Where Bart was genius was in striking when the strain of it all seemed to be too much for MV. Partnering with a reborn MITD at least allowed the aroma of the "legacy" to energize listeners while the diminishing smoke from the Pahrump dumpster fire yet promised re-ignition at some point. This forum's challenge, barring a Heather reboot, is in being a single program centric portal, as opposed to the forums at LNM and KGRA which resonate with a larger network of programming.

It's odd to me that save for Spooky Tim, the other programs on the DMDN and their hosts haven't coordinated more commentary and activity here. And make no mistake there are shows that have the "woo" to pull it off.  Should a Dragon King Dark or Paranormal UK or Conspirinormal start "bringing it" here the forum would be enriched and likely upsize it readership and member list accordingly. Something for Bart to consider as he spins his web of woo.

Because really the same thing that plagues BellBanGab can happen here, just not with as splashy a death throe as BBG's surrender to the tides of listener apathy has evidenced.

It's hard to say what MV thinks of his forum's spasmodic nature. He has publicly stated that he is perplexed by all the conflict, yet he seeds the dick doctor functional bouncer privileges, indemnifies him against any convictions for thread shitting, then hobbles those who would return fire at his endlessly tiresome cat calls of "f****t, globalist, Bush lover,", etc.

As such he creates a Thunderdome of his own, then seems to want to hand pick the winners and losers as opposed to letting the audience see an actual outcome. Predictably then he falls prey to the cynicism that comes when the onlookers realize the lions were always going to eat the gladiator regardless of how well he performed. As such BellBanGab becomes less "Running Man" and more professional wrestling with scripted outcomes the byline.

Inevitably that courts boredom, sycophantic worship, and, with a hateful witch like Brig somehow elevated to celebrity status unbecoming her meager offerings to said forum, one is left with a sinking feeling that the "vaguely lovable" monicker is little more than wishful thinking for a pit of paradise lost. Or so it would seem... :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 20, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
There's no question that that's weird. That's why I burned my bridges.

What did you do to burn your bridges at bellgab?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on February 20, 2019, 11:26:19 AM
In a subject verse like the paranormal, and one further refined by the focus on it's now deceased icon (Art Bell), the prospects for growth have to be limited if not terminated both by his passing, but also by the utter flailing failure of his hand-picked "legacy". Suffice to say that lacking a forum traffic generator, such as Ellgab has with Dynamo Hum, BellBanGab is more of a memory hole in the net, a vortex of spiraling inward compression.

Where Bart was genius was in striking when the strain of it all seemed to be too much for MV. Partnering with a reborn MITD at least allowed the aroma of the "legacy" to energize listeners while the diminishing smoke from the Pahrump dumpster fire yet promised re-ignition at some point. This forum's challenge, barring a Heather reboot, is in being a single program centric portal, as opposed to the forums at LNM and KGRA which resonate with a larger network of programming.

It's odd to me that save for Spooky Tim, the other programs on the DMDN and their hosts haven't coordinated more commentary and activity here. And make no mistake there are shows that have the "woo" to pull it off.  Should a Dragon King Dark or Paranormal UK or Conspirinormal start "bringing it" here the forum would be enriched and likely upsize it readership and member list accordingly. Something for Bart to consider as he spins his web of woo.

Because really the same thing that plagues BellBanGab can happen here, just not with as splashy a death throe as BBG's surrender to the tides of listener apathy has evidenced.

It's hard to say what MV thinks of his forum's spasmodic nature. He has publicly stated that he is perplexed by all the conflict, yet he seeds the dick doctor functional bouncer privileges, indemnifies him against any convictions for thread shitting, then hobbles those who would return fire at his endlessly tiresome cat calls of "f****t, globalist, Bush lover,", etc.

As such he creates a Thunderdome of his own, then seems to want to hand pick the winners and losers as opposed to letting the audience see an actual outcome. Predictably then he falls prey to the cynicism that comes when the onlookers realize the lions were always going to eat the gladiator regardless of how well he performed. As such BellBanGab becomes less "Running Man" and more professional wrestling with scripted outcomes the byline.

Inevitably that courts boredom, sycophantic worship, and, with a hateful witch like Brig somehow elevated to celebrity status unbecoming her meager offerings to said forum, one is left with a sinking feeling that the "vaguely lovable" monicker is little more than wishful thinking for a pit of paradise lost. Or so it would seem... :-\

I have not seen any signs of any partnership with Keith on ellgab. "the other programs on the DMDN and their hosts haven't coordinated more commentary and activity here" proves that to me. The Malliard report and Spaced out Radio have threads here and post here and they are not on dm.  vc went over to bellgab to say he was banned for attacking Midnight in the Desert but his comments are still here and it looks like he was banned for spamming the same comments over and over.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 20, 2019, 11:42:36 AM
I have not seen any signs of any partnership with Keith on ellgab. "the other programs on the DMDN and their hosts haven't coordinated more commentary and activity here" proves that to me. The Malliard report and Spaced out Radio have threads here and post here and they are not on dm.  vc went over to bellgab to say he was banned for attacking Midnight in the Desert but his comments are still here and it looks like he was banned for spamming the same comments over and over.

That's a shame because while KGRA (Jimmy Church) is killing it in the latest radioink survey, DMDN (MITD) is still residing lower down. The programs I mentioned do seem to have enough "woo" to them as well as personable hosts who might be able to leverage a presence here and benefit all sides. Over in BellBanGab Micheal Decon has staked out a thread (much as Malliard and Spaced have here) and seems to be drawing call-ins from that forum, as well as his regular listener base. No reason some of the DMDN shows couldn't set up threads here and work them and punch higher in the ratings. It just seems a shame to bypass the low hanging fruit when it's there for the picking.

As MaxPower said, grow or shrink.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 20, 2019, 12:01:04 PM
What did you do to burn your bridges at bellgab?
Ostensibly nothing, save for not getting up on his hind legs and crowing "Death to the Bushes" as the dick doctor requires of all now in his endless political purity tests.

Tests administered, one must recall, by a former Obama voter. :-\

MD despises all who won't sing from his personal Hymnal of Hatred and with MV's apparent blessings he enlists Brig and Jackstar to vilify, mock, and deride members until they leave for greener and safer pastures.

The bafflement is that he refuses to take any accountability for his own actions, glibly citing "free speech" where none is evidently allowed nor promoted. This as the head count from his personal Inquisition burgeons on and includes many regular participants in this forum - esp. Paladin for whom he has a deep-seated anti-FBI paranoiac obsession.

When EG picks up talent like Nucky Nolan or Gd5150 it's no accident, it's a demonstrated preference for something other than a "tour de Barfly" with MD acting out Mickey Rourke's pie-eyed, besotted antics. :o

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 20, 2019, 04:14:26 PM
Kind of an Indiana Jones move.

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It reminds me of Juicy running from his lies. In a strange "coincidence", some Democratic propaganda news outlets "found" some news about White nationalists on the same day that Juicy was charged with filing a false police report.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 20, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
What did you do to burn your bridges at bellgab?

I no longer post there. I fondly recall the boom town before it became a ghost town largely inhabited by escaped mental patients.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 20, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
It reminds me of Juicy running from his lies. In a strange "coincidence", some Democratic propaganda news outlets "found" some news about White nationalists on the same day that Juicy was charged with filing a false police report.
Just saw that on Bret Baier while I was working out - oh these "coincidences" eh? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 20, 2019, 09:31:48 PM
Just saw that on Bret Baier while I was working out - oh these "coincidences" eh? ::) ::) ::)

The SPLC just released a new report on the increase in hate groups (not leftists), and they just "found" a treasure trove of racist John Wayne quotes. Many kids don't even know who Elvis Presley is other than the White devil who ripped off Black music.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 21, 2019, 08:53:14 AM
The SPLC just released a new report on the increase in hate groups (not leftists), and they just "found" a treasure trove of racist John Wayne quotes. Many kids don't even know who Elvis Presley is other than the White devil who ripped off Black music.
The time to falgellate the dead is nigh...this can all be best executed in N'Awlens not Blitzburgh. :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Gd5150 on February 21, 2019, 09:45:35 AM
The SPLC just released a new report on the increase in hate groups (not leftists), and they just "found" a treasure trove of racist John Wayne quotes. Many kids don't even know who Elvis Presley is other than the White devil who ripped off Black music.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports (https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports)

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Hate group count hits 20-year high amid rise in white supremacy, report says

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the Southern Poverty Law Center

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 21, 2019, 10:05:09 AM
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White devils! >:(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 21, 2019, 04:37:01 PM
The time to falgellate the dead is nigh...this can all be best executed in N'Awlens not Blitzburgh. :(

It all comes down to cultural Marxism. The leftists start with easy targets, like Confederate memorials and statues, and they eventually attack someone for making a "racist" comment in kindergarten.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 21, 2019, 04:50:39 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports (https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports)

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It's a "charity" with no credibility. They have been and will be sued for libel and slander. They have shady offshore bank accounts. Yet the MSM treat them like they're the most credible organization in recorded history.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 21, 2019, 05:16:23 PM
It all comes down to cultural Marxism. The leftists start with easy targets, like Confederate memorials and statues, and they eventually attack someone for making a "racist" comment in kindergarten.
This is the precise progression of outrage, it always goes to a very bed place where actual fascism is concerned. :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 21, 2019, 05:17:23 PM
It's a "charity" with no credibility. They have been and will be sued for libel and slander. They have shady offshore bank accounts. Yet the MSM treat them like they're the most credible organization in recorded history.
The SPLC is today's ACORN. >:(

...admittedly they far predate those shysters...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 21, 2019, 09:29:05 PM
This is the precise progression of outrage, it always goes to a very bed place where actual fascism is concerned. :(

It's a natural progression with the communist Taliban. You saw how they went from Nathan Bedford Forrest statues to "The Dukes Of Hazard" car designs.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 21, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
The SPLC is today's ACORN. >:(

...admittedly they far predate those shysters...

I liked them back in the day. That admittance makes me more embarrassed than my humiliating vampire period.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 22, 2019, 08:42:19 AM
It's a natural progression with the communist Taliban. You saw how they went from Nathan Bedford Forrest statues to "The Dukes Of Hazard" car designs.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272954/parents-sue-fight-anti-white-anti-male-anti-matthew-vadum#.XG-ckgaL1oE.twitter

Parents in Santa Barbara, California, are suing a leftist hate group called Just Communities and the local school board there to end the group’s taxpayer-funded so-called implicit bias training that has a powerful anti-white, anti-male, and anti-Christian slant.

Just Communities (its full name is Just Communities Central Coast) has a contract with the Santa Barbara Unified School District to indoctrinate young people into believing that America today is a manifestly immoral, cruel country in which white people routinely oppress non-whites, men oppress women, Christians oppress non-Christians, heterosexuals oppress gays, and the wealthy oppress the poor.

In Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Marxist theorist Paulo Freire urged that schools be used to inculcate radical values in students to transform them into agents of social change. Freire argued that the so-called dominant pedagogy “silences” poor and minority children and that there is no such thing as a neutral educational system. Teachers today are also smitten with the ahistorical, anti-American screeds of Howard Zinn, a Communist Party USA member whose writings they treat as gospel.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 22, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
I liked them back in the day. That admittance makes me more embarrassed than my humiliating vampire period.

Wait...vampire period???

I had no idea. :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 22, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272954/parents-sue-fight-anti-white-anti-male-anti-matthew-vadum#.XG-ckgaL1oE.twitter

Parents in Santa Barbara, California, are suing a leftist hate group called Just Communities and the local school board there to end the group’s taxpayer-funded so-called implicit bias training that has a powerful anti-white, anti-male, and anti-Christian slant.

Just Communities (its full name is Just Communities Central Coast) has a contract with the Santa Barbara Unified School District to indoctrinate young people into believing that America today is a manifestly immoral, cruel country in which white people routinely oppress non-whites, men oppress women, Christians oppress non-Christians, heterosexuals oppress gays, and the wealthy oppress the poor.

In Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Marxist theorist Paulo Freire urged that schools be used to inculcate radical values in students to transform them into agents of social change. Freire argued that the so-called dominant pedagogy “silences” poor and minority children and that there is no such thing as a neutral educational system. Teachers today are also smitten with the ahistorical, anti-American screeds of Howard Zinn, a Communist Party USA member whose writings they treat as gospel.

Normal Americans should rebel and revolt against this Marxist nonsense! We deserve to lose our country if we don't. The reality, of current anti-majority hypocrisy, proves that these Marxist propagandists have it absolutely backwards when they falsely claim that majority groups are treated better than minority groups. They know that there are double standards against White Christian straight men, and their main goal is to destroy this demographic because it threatens them.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 22, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Wait...vampire period???

I had no idea. :o

I was a huge fan of vampire books and vampire films, and I dressed as Dracula each Halloween. I went through an organized crime phase too which stopped when the Mafia was too bigoted (not FBI) to let me join their fraternal organization.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 22, 2019, 04:27:43 PM
Normal Americans should rebel and revolt against this Marxist nonsense! We deserve to lose our country if we don't. The reality, of current anti-majority hypocrisy, proves that these Marxist propagandists have it absolutely backwards when they falsely claim that majority groups are treated better than minority groups. They know that there are double standards against White Christian straight men, and their main goal is to destroy this demographic because it threatens them.
Oh yeah. Tucker had a great segment last night on how being oppressed is the new "ism" for the rich and powerful. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 22, 2019, 04:28:33 PM
I was a huge fan of vampire books and vampire films, and I dressed as Dracula each Halloween. I went through an organized crime phase too which stopped when the Mafia was too bigoted (not FBI) to let me join their fraternal organization.
Given your avatar I get that. The vampire thing must have been an Anne Rice driven fad?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 22, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
Oh yeah. Tucker had a great segment last night on how being oppressed is the new "ism" for the rich and powerful. :-\

I don't demonize or lionize the rich. They're a mixed bag like any other group. I'm a big fan of capitalism, though. It's the best economic system to help us join the ranks of the wealthy.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 22, 2019, 05:11:56 PM
Given your avatar I get that. The vampire thing must have been an Anne Rice driven fad?

That was part of it. I also regularly turned into a bat, so there was that.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 22, 2019, 05:35:33 PM
I don't demonize or lionize the rich. They're a mixed bag like any other group. I'm a big fan of capitalism, though. It's the best economic system to help us join the ranks of the wealthy.
I think when the ruling class adopts victimhood we're in a worse place than ever. :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 22, 2019, 05:47:36 PM
I think when the ruling class adopts victimhood we're in a worse place than ever. :(

They already have. Juicy is more of a "victim" than an impoverished Appalachian coal miner who was falsely accused of a crime.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 23, 2019, 10:32:02 AM
They already have. Juicy is more of a "victim" than an impoverished Appalachian coal miner who was falsely accused of a crime.
The poor bastard was forced to live on a salary of a million a year!

This cannot stand in New Wakanadaland. ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 23, 2019, 02:36:52 PM
The poor bastard was forced to live on a salary of a million a year!
Cue the violins :) Some people who don't understand finances and money can blow through a million easily. A lot of NFL players and even big lottery winners who were multi-millionaires end up in bankruptcy years later. I just amazes me how much money some people waste.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 23, 2019, 04:07:23 PM
The poor bastard was forced to live on a salary of a million a year!

This cannot stand in New Wakanadaland. ::)

How can anybody survive on that? We should start a Go Fund Me page for him.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 23, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
Cue the violins :) Some people who don't understand finances and money can blow through a million easily. A lot of NFL players and even big lottery winners who were multi-millionaires end up in bankruptcy years later. I just amazes me how much money some people waste.

R. Kelly comes to mind. He couldn't afford bail. He made a zillion when he produced hits and won Grammys, and he later owed thousands in back child support. Many celebrities blow through money like their lives will have fewer rainy days than Arizona.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 23, 2019, 05:31:53 PM
How can anybody survive on that? We should start a Go Fund Me page for him.

I can't let you "rope" me into that... ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 23, 2019, 05:33:07 PM
Cue the violins :) Some people who don't understand finances and money can blow through a million easily. A lot of NFL players and even big lottery winners who were multi-millionaires end up in bankruptcy years later. I just amazes me how much money some people waste.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 23, 2019, 07:14:30 PM
I can't let you "rope" me into that... ;)

How many people said that to Juicy before he found the Nigerian brothers? Maybe Smell-it blackmailed them over their email scams.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 24, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
How many people said that to Juicy before he found the Nigerian brothers? Maybe Smell-it blackmailed them over their email scams.
It's beyond creepy to know that Cory Booker and Aunty Kamaltoe were both coaching his race war. This has become a nation insane from the top down.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 24, 2019, 09:16:39 AM
It's beyond creepy to know that Cory Booker and Aunty Kamaltoe were both coaching his race war. This has become a nation insane from the top down.
Jimmy Kimmel should put on blackface (again) and do a Smollett comedy skit  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 24, 2019, 09:58:17 AM
Jimmy Kimmel should put on blackface (again) and do a Smollett comedy skit  ;)
And I demand Joy Behar go all Pam Grier on us again. ::)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 24, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 24, 2019, 03:51:02 PM
It's beyond creepy to know that Cory Booker and Aunty Kamaltoe were both coaching his race war. This has become a nation insane from the top down.

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They jerk their knees and jump to conclusions when it suits their purposes. Now, there's a mass conversion to the religion of evidence.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 24, 2019, 05:17:32 PM
They jerk their knees and jump to conclusions when it suits their purposes. Now, there's a mass conversion to the religion of evidence.
I can't ever recall it being this bad in my lifetime, maybe we need a series of Congressional canings!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 24, 2019, 05:58:00 PM
I can't ever recall it being this bad in my lifetime, maybe we need a series of Congressional canings!

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Even the British don't go that far during commons questions. Those canings could really liven up C-SPAN.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 24, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
Even the British don't go that far during commons questions. Those canings could really liven up C-SPAN.

I am volunteering Dr. MD to be someone's proxy. Doesn't matter who, globalist or not, just want to see him in action. ;)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 24, 2019, 06:09:14 PM
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I won't talk about him since he's not here to defend himself. That's not to say that you're not onto something there. Maybe they could liven up things a bit. For instance, have Tulsi Gabbard wrestle Ocasio-Cortez to see who gets to be the "next big thing" in the Democratic Party.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 25, 2019, 09:24:13 AM
I won't talk about him since he's not here to defend himself. That's not to say that you're not onto something there. Maybe they could liven up things a bit. For instance, have Tulsi Gabbard wrestle Ocasio-Cortez to see who gets to be the "next big thing" in the Democratic Party.
Cortex is warning against anyone having kids, because their lives will be "difficult". I guess that doesn't apply to impoverished brown sprogs from central America - just the entitled whiteys... :-\

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43880/ocasio-cortez-people-maybe-shouldnt-reproduce-due-ryan-saavedra
"Our planet is going to hit disaster if we don't turn this ship around and so it's basically like, there's a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult," Ocasio-Cortez said while chopping up food in her kitchen during an Instagram live video. "And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, 'Is it okay to still have children?'"
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on February 25, 2019, 09:48:17 AM
Cortex is warning against anyone having kids, because their lives will be "difficult". I guess that doesn't apply to impoverished brown sprogs from central America - just the entitled whiteys... :-\

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43880/ocasio-cortez-people-maybe-shouldnt-reproduce-due-ryan-saavedra
"Our planet is going to hit disaster if we don't turn this ship around and so it's basically like, there's a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult," Ocasio-Cortez said while chopping up food in her kitchen during an Instagram live video. "And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, 'Is it okay to still have children?'"
So, life will be difficult for children. Obviously those who are saying don't have children because things will be difficult for them do not understand life. It is the difficult times that cause the most growth and self-discovery. Difficult times build character and teach the valuable lessons children need to know.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on February 25, 2019, 04:23:37 PM
Cortex is warning against anyone having kids, because their lives will be "difficult". I guess that doesn't apply to impoverished brown sprogs from central America - just the entitled whiteys... :-\

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43880/ocasio-cortez-people-maybe-shouldnt-reproduce-due-ryan-saavedra
"Our planet is going to hit disaster if we don't turn this ship around and so it's basically like, there's a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult," Ocasio-Cortez said while chopping up food in her kitchen during an Instagram live video. "And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, 'Is it okay to still have children?'"

Her political career is like something out of the sequel to "Being There". She should change her last name to "Gardener". She gets the headlines and the spotlight while Tulsi Gabbard gets the third degree on Democratic propaganda news outlet talk shows *if* she's not outright ignored by them. It's like they secretly work for the GOP (attempting to be logical).
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on February 25, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
So, life will be difficult for children. Obviously those who are saying don't have children because things will be difficult for them do not understand life. It is the difficult times that cause the most growth and self-discovery. Difficult times build character and teach the valuable lessons children need to know.
It's not like this species hasn't been through worse than global "warming"...heck Canada could profit from all this big time.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 03, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
Mcafee's Siteadvisor said that Bellgab is not a safe site. I just took a screen shot of it. Is Falkie correct about MV?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on March 03, 2019, 03:00:13 PM
Mcafee's Siteadvisor said that Bellgab is not a safe site. I just took a screen shot of it. Is Falkie correct about MV?

I could tell you the location of the rendition site they took Michael Walker to but we would never be heard from again.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 03, 2019, 03:01:37 PM
I could tell you the location of the rendition site they took Michael Walker to but we would never be heard from again.
I really don't need to know where Michael Walker is at.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 03, 2019, 03:31:03 PM
I really don't need to know where Michael Walker is at.

Nor do you need an .exe from Bellgrab, eh?

Sobering McAfee report. :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 03, 2019, 03:42:13 PM
Nor do you need an .exe from Bellgrab, eh?

Sobering McAfee report. :-X

No worries.  The .exe will get stuck in your ethernet cable and activate a tiny camera is all.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 03, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Mcafee's Siteadvisor said that Bellgab is not a safe site. I just took a screen shot of it. Is Falkie correct about MV?

I'm out of the loop. What did that YouTube sage say about MV?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 03, 2019, 04:54:43 PM
No worries.  The .exe will get stuck in your ethernet cable and activate a tiny camera is all.
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: FISH on March 04, 2019, 08:43:27 AM
Mcafee's Siteadvisor said that Bellgab is not a safe site. I just took a screen shot of it. Is Falkie correct about MV?
@damon , hello.
I do not visit the old country very often. If I do I see this message-View site information Info or Not secure
The site isn't using a private connection. Someone might be able to see or change the information you send or get through this site.

On some sites, you can visit a more secure version of the page:

Select the address bar.
Delete http://, and enter https:// instead.
If that doesn't work, contact the site owner to ask that they secure the site and your data with HTTPS.

VS EllGab--Lock Secure
Information you send or get through the site is private.
:)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WildCard on March 04, 2019, 09:15:50 AM
I'm out of the loop. What did that YouTube sage say about MV?

He never says anything anymore.
Time was he began every video with a mention of, "the evil BartEl".

Falkie has been replaced with a lolcow even more ridiculous than him.

Hi 26 Metrosexuals.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 04, 2019, 09:35:44 AM
He never says anything anymore.
Time was he began every video with a mention of, "the evil BartEl".

Falkie has been replaced with a lolcow even more ridiculous than him.

Hi 26 Metrosexuals.

Hello lightweight, how goes it? 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 04, 2019, 03:34:32 PM
He never says anything anymore.
Time was he began every video with a mention of, "the evil BartEl".

Falkie has been replaced with a lolcow even more ridiculous than him.

Hi 26 Metrosexuals.

Thanks for the update. That still doesn't answer my original question, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 04, 2019, 03:38:57 PM
@damon , hello.
I do not visit the old country very often. If I do I see this message-View site information Info or Not secure
The site isn't using a private connection. Someone might be able to see or change the information you send or get through this site.

On some sites, you can visit a more secure version of the page:

Select the address bar.
Delete http://, and enter https:// instead.
If that doesn't work, contact the site owner to ask that they secure the site and your data with HTTPS.

VS EllGab--Lock Secure
Information you send or get through the site is private.
:)
I do like that @Bart Ell has the Green Lock on the web site.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 05, 2019, 11:54:18 PM
First Mcafee does not likes Bellgab and now Bitdefender does not likes Bellgab. Just check out the screenshot.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on March 06, 2019, 03:17:47 AM
I'm out of the loop. What did that YouTube sage say about MV?

Wait, what?  :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 06, 2019, 09:50:17 AM
First Mcafee does not likes Bellgab and now Bitdefender does not likes Bellgab. Just check out the screenshot.

Huh...here's what Norton says:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 06, 2019, 04:12:39 PM
Wait, what?  :o

Your guess is as good as mine. He has yet to answer my question.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 06, 2019, 04:36:03 PM
Your guess is as good as mine. He has yet to answer my question.

Nolan - I can step in for Damon and help here.  Would you like the full story or just a quick blurb?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 06, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
The Full Monty, please!

 :)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 06, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
The Full Monty, please!

 :)

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So the "Sage" appeared on the gabcast a couple of times and it went so well that MV  setup a show where the "Sage" hosted with MV producing. 
That also went well - it was a fun listen and I think MV and "Sage" enjoyed doing it.  However, there were some technical issues on the
"Sages" end so a deal was struck.  MV would send "Sage" a refurbished laptop with all the necessary software to become a
podcasting powerhouse.   MV took the system apart, cleaned it up, put new thermal compound under the CPU heatsink, etc. 
He then put in a new SSD drive and did a clean OS install with additional software on top of that and sent it to the "Sage".   If I recall
correctly, the "Sage" paid like $50 for the SSD drive. 

The lapper arrives and "Sage" gets confused because it was a Windows system and all he does is Apple.  So MV agreed to setup a call
with him to step him thru how to get up and running.  "Sage" who is about six years old emotionally, started bombarding MV with
"Can we do it now?", "How about now?" calls or texts.  Finally, he caught MV in a line while he was dealing with both of his small
daughters.  An exasperated MV told "Sage" to go F himself.  Any normal person would have just laughed and said "Gee whiz MV.  Guess
I really did catch you at a bad time.  I won't call you, you call me when you have time".   That didn't happen - the "Sage" was pissed.

From there the Circle of Trust got to work - filling "Sage"'s head with all sorts of interesting ideas.  The whole thing was a trap. 
The lapper has a camera in it - MV wants to watch you nekkid.  The lapper is stealing your documents and all your deepest darkest
secrets.    It knows.  It is always watching.  It is uploading live streams of you in your pad to the Dark Web where MV is making
money off of you.  When "Sage" learned that MV had put some remote access software on the system so that he could remotely
assist with issues the volcano erupted. 

Good old, jolly, helping me learn how to podcast MV became the Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  The seed of paranoia that the Circle of
Trust planted bloomed into a trollfest of unbelievable beauty.   CatV ethernet cables were ripped out and cut up because  Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and the laptop of doom had managed to embed tiny cameras in them somehow to enjoy "Sages" nakedness.  An FBI Cyber Crime report was
filled. Tensions were high.  Passions ran deep.  It was pretty awesome.......................

Earlier, MV had setup a special Fortress (hidden thread) on bellgab where the "Sage" could frolic, play and have fun as "Sage" controlled
who could access it.   After the FBI report was filled things came to a head and the Fortress was opened to an army of raiding haterz and trollz.
I don't think "Sage" ever really recovered.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Rikki Gins on March 06, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
Screw Mcafee anyway.  Some years back I was paying good money to use their top of the line anti-virus software when all at once, my computer couldn't update anything.  So I took it to my computer tech and he said that a certain virus got through and that it was what caused the problem.  Goodbye Mcafee!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 06, 2019, 05:53:12 PM
Screw Mcafee anyway.  Some years back I was paying good money to use their top of the line anti-virus software when all at once, my computer couldn't update anything.  So I took it to my computer tech and he said that a certain virus got through and that it was what caused the problem.  Goodbye Mcafee!

John McAfee himself agrees Rixx.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Rikki Gins on March 06, 2019, 06:18:27 PM
John McAfee himself agrees Rixx.

That was funny, Walks.  I don't quite hate the guy as much, now.  haha
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 06, 2019, 06:50:41 PM
Screw Mcafee anyway.  Some years back I was paying good money to use their top of the line anti-virus software when all at once, my computer couldn't update anything.  So I took it to my computer tech and he said that a certain virus got through and that it was what caused the problem.  Goodbye Mcafee!

No security can protect against anything anyone can come up with - all they can hope to do is block known viruses, malware, etc, and get an early jump protecting against whatever new comes along.  Of course some anti-virus software is better than others... early on McAfee was as good as anything - I think security is better in general now, we don't have nearly the issues we had 10-20 years ago.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 06, 2019, 07:33:57 PM
Nolan - I can step in for Damon and help here.  Would you like the full story or just a quick blurb?

Thanks for posting the full monty. Thanks also for not showing any pythons.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 07, 2019, 11:30:52 AM
So the "Sage" appeared on the gabcast a couple of times and it went so well that MV  setup a show where the "Sage" hosted with MV producing. 
That also went well - it was a fun listen and I think MV and "Sage" enjoyed doing it.  However, there were some technical issues on the
"Sages" end so a deal was struck.  MV would send "Sage" a refurbished laptop with all the necessary software to become a
podcasting powerhouse.   MV took the system apart, cleaned it up, put new thermal compound under the CPU heatsink, etc. 
He then put in a new SSD drive and did a clean OS install with additional software on top of that and sent it to the "Sage".   If I recall
correctly, the "Sage" paid like $50 for the SSD drive. 

The lapper arrives and "Sage" gets confused because it was a Windows system and all he does is Apple.  So MV agreed to setup a call
with him to step him thru how to get up and running.  "Sage" who is about six years old emotionally, started bombarding MV with
"Can we do it now?", "How about now?" calls or texts.  Finally, he caught MV in a line while he was dealing with both of his small
daughters.  An exasperated MV told "Sage" to go F himself.  Any normal person would have just laughed and said "Gee whiz MV.  Guess
I really did catch you at a bad time.  I won't call you, you call me when you have time".   That didn't happen - the "Sage" was pissed.

From there the Circle of Trust got to work - filling "Sage"'s head with all sorts of interesting ideas.  The whole thing was a trap. 
The lapper has a camera in it - MV wants to watch you nekkid.  The lapper is stealing your documents and all your deepest darkest
secrets.    It knows.  It is always watching.  It is uploading live streams of you in your pad to the Dark Web where MV is making
money off of you.  When "Sage" learned that MV had put some remote access software on the system so that he could remotely
assist with issues the volcano erupted. 

Good old, jolly, helping me learn how to podcast MV became the Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  The seed of paranoia that the Circle of
Trust planted bloomed into a trollfest of unbelievable beauty.   CatV ethernet cables were ripped out and cut up because  Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and the laptop of doom had managed to embed tiny cameras in them somehow to enjoy "Sages" nakedness.  An FBI Cyber Crime report was
filled. Tensions were high.  Passions ran deep.  It was pretty awesome.......................

Earlier, MV had setup a special Fortress (hidden thread) on bellgab where the "Sage" could frolic, play and have fun as "Sage" controlled
who could access it.   After the FBI report was filled things came to a head and the Fortress was opened to an army of raiding haterz and trollz.
I don't think "Sage" ever really recovered.

Wow. Just freaking wow, I had no idea the backstory on the infamous laptop was that convoluted!

Of course all modern Windoze machines can do remote assist, no special sauce there unless MV added some special functionality beyond MS's tool set and one would think an Apple guy would be competent enough technically to grasp that, but...in this case... ::) ::) ::)


https://www.interfacett.com/blogs/enabling-windows-7-remote-desktop-remote-assistance/

There are at least four components that should be enabled to some degree on both ends of a Remote Assistance session or on the receiving end of a Remote Desktop connection. The four components are:

Allowing remote assistance and/or remote desktop as a system property, and configuring related connectivity options.
Identifying the users/groups granted remote connectivity within local security or Group policy.
Configuring and starting the requisite system services.
Enabling relevant features or ports firewall access.
Group policy could be used to enable or block elements within each of the four components, and therefore must also be considered when debugging Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance within a domain environment.

The first three of the components must be set using administrative level authority, suggesting a preset in the deployment image or Group Policy management, while the fourth may be controlled with standard user rights. Screenshots within this article represent the recommended settings for a mixed Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 environment.

FIRST. “Allow Remote Assistance” and/or Remote Desktop must be enabled within the System Properties>Remote tab. Remote Assistance must be enabled on both machines.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 07, 2019, 01:21:13 PM
So the "Sage" appeared on the gabcast a couple of times and it went so well that MV  setup a show where the "Sage" hosted with MV producing. 
That also went well - it was a fun listen and I think MV and "Sage" enjoyed doing it.  However, there were some technical issues on the
"Sages" end so a deal was struck.  MV would send "Sage" a refurbished laptop with all the necessary software to become a
podcasting powerhouse.   MV took the system apart, cleaned it up, put new thermal compound under the CPU heatsink, etc. 
He then put in a new SSD drive and did a clean OS install with additional software on top of that and sent it to the "Sage".   If I recall
correctly, the "Sage" paid like $50 for the SSD drive. 

The lapper arrives and "Sage" gets confused because it was a Windows system and all he does is Apple.  So MV agreed to setup a call
with him to step him thru how to get up and running.  "Sage" who is about six years old emotionally, started bombarding MV with
"Can we do it now?", "How about now?" calls or texts.  Finally, he caught MV in a line while he was dealing with both of his small
daughters.  An exasperated MV told "Sage" to go F himself.  Any normal person would have just laughed and said "Gee whiz MV.  Guess
I really did catch you at a bad time.  I won't call you, you call me when you have time".   That didn't happen - the "Sage" was pissed.

From there the Circle of Trust got to work - filling "Sage"'s head with all sorts of interesting ideas.  The whole thing was a trap. 
The lapper has a camera in it - MV wants to watch you nekkid.  The lapper is stealing your documents and all your deepest darkest
secrets.    It knows.  It is always watching.  It is uploading live streams of you in your pad to the Dark Web where MV is making
money off of you.  When "Sage" learned that MV had put some remote access software on the system so that he could remotely
assist with issues the volcano erupted. 

Good old, jolly, helping me learn how to podcast MV became the Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  The seed of paranoia that the Circle of
Trust planted bloomed into a trollfest of unbelievable beauty.   CatV ethernet cables were ripped out and cut up because  Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and the laptop of doom had managed to embed tiny cameras in them somehow to enjoy "Sages" nakedness.  An FBI Cyber Crime report was
filled. Tensions were high.  Passions ran deep.  It was pretty awesome.......................

Earlier, MV had setup a special Fortress (hidden thread) on bellgab where the "Sage" could frolic, play and have fun as "Sage" controlled
who could access it.   After the FBI report was filled things came to a head and the Fortress was opened to an army of raiding haterz and trollz.
I don't think "Sage" ever really recovered.
It sounds like they deserve each other.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 07, 2019, 08:50:00 PM
So the "Sage" appeared on the gabcast a couple of times and it went so well that MV  setup a show where the "Sage" hosted with MV producing. 
That also went well - it was a fun listen and I think MV and "Sage" enjoyed doing it.  However, there were some technical issues on the
"Sages" end so a deal was struck.  MV would send "Sage" a refurbished laptop with all the necessary software to become a
podcasting powerhouse.   MV took the system apart, cleaned it up, put new thermal compound under the CPU heatsink, etc. 
He then put in a new SSD drive and did a clean OS install with additional software on top of that and sent it to the "Sage".   If I recall
correctly, the "Sage" paid like $50 for the SSD drive. 

The lapper arrives and "Sage" gets confused because it was a Windows system and all he does is Apple.  So MV agreed to setup a call
with him to step him thru how to get up and running.  "Sage" who is about six years old emotionally, started bombarding MV with
"Can we do it now?", "How about now?" calls or texts.  Finally, he caught MV in a line while he was dealing with both of his small
daughters.  An exasperated MV told "Sage" to go F himself.  Any normal person would have just laughed and said "Gee whiz MV.  Guess
I really did catch you at a bad time.  I won't call you, you call me when you have time".   That didn't happen - the "Sage" was pissed.

From there the Circle of Trust got to work - filling "Sage"'s head with all sorts of interesting ideas.  The whole thing was a trap. 
The lapper has a camera in it - MV wants to watch you nekkid.  The lapper is stealing your documents and all your deepest darkest
secrets.    It knows.  It is always watching.  It is uploading live streams of you in your pad to the Dark Web where MV is making
money off of you.  When "Sage" learned that MV had put some remote access software on the system so that he could remotely
assist with issues the volcano erupted. 

Good old, jolly, helping me learn how to podcast MV became the Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.  The seed of paranoia that the Circle of
Trust planted bloomed into a trollfest of unbelievable beauty.   CatV ethernet cables were ripped out and cut up because  Evil M-Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and the laptop of doom had managed to embed tiny cameras in them somehow to enjoy "Sages" nakedness.  An FBI Cyber Crime report was
filled. Tensions were high.  Passions ran deep.  It was pretty awesome.......................

Earlier, MV had setup a special Fortress (hidden thread) on bellgab where the "Sage" could frolic, play and have fun as "Sage" controlled
who could access it.   After the FBI report was filled things came to a head and the Fortress was opened to an army of raiding haterz and trollz.
I don't think "Sage" ever really recovered.
After I read your post, I saw this on cnbc. I had to laugh a little.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/us-tech-firms-fear-china-could-be-spying-through-power-cords-report.html
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 07, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
After I read your post, I saw this on cnbc. I had to laugh a little.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/us-tech-firms-fear-china-could-be-spying-through-power-cords-report.html
:) What's next? Apple introducing the "iCord" Smart Power Cable?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: StarrMountain on March 08, 2019, 02:35:48 AM
Bumped EVERYONE on this page.  Just cuz I luvs ya and ya all Rock! :-*
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 08, 2019, 07:04:13 AM
Now AVG internet Security now reports the bellgab is also infected. WTF.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 08, 2019, 04:25:32 PM
Now AVG internet Security now reports the bellgab is also infected. WTF.

I see the same.    ???
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 08, 2019, 04:26:44 PM
Bumped EVERYONE on this page.  Just cuz I luvs ya and ya all Rock! :-*

Well that was kind of you Starr.  much appreciated.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 08, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
It's infected all right
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 09, 2019, 09:20:20 AM
It's infected all right

You're using website inspection software on your own machine yes?

This can't be a good thing for MV. :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 09, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
I went to phishtank to check out bellgab.com. I took a screenshot of what I found out.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 09, 2019, 09:35:09 AM
I went to phishtank to check out bellgab.com. I took a screenshot of what I found out.

Tnx, I'll retire my Norton finding as non-responsive. :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 09, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
Has anyone told MV about this yet?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2019, 09:51:39 AM
Has anyone told MV about this yet?
Maybe he's gone fishing?  :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 09, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
Maybe he's gone fishing?  :D
It's sure is fishy about whats going on over there. @Open Lines Gerry What is your take on this topic??
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 09, 2019, 10:48:53 AM
Maybe he's gone fishing?  :D

LOL, you misspelled "phishing"... ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on March 09, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
bellgab is forwarding to a strange url now with phish in it. Maybe he is working on installing a fix because the site can't be loaded as of now.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 09, 2019, 01:37:17 PM
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2019, 02:19:00 PM
LOL, you misspelled "phishing"... ;D
I thought you would "catch" that  :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on March 09, 2019, 02:20:14 PM
I thought you would "catch" that  :D

Don’t go baiting him.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2019, 02:25:51 PM
Has anyone told MV about this yet?
I am sure they monitor Ellgab, so MV should know about it. Maybe he doesn't know how to fix the issue and is waiting for Bart and company to go over and fix it for him.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
Don’t go baiting him.
:D Fishing for puns
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 09, 2019, 03:56:10 PM
Maybe he's gone fishing?  :D

I see what you did there. I wonder if any "anglers" know about my thing for wrestling erotica.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 09, 2019, 05:23:12 PM
I just saw that a bellgabber did posted about the phishing on bellgab
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2019, 09:54:55 PM
I see what you did there. I wonder if any "anglers" know about my thing for wrestling erotica.  ;)
Here you go: Wrestling erotica starts about 24:00 minutes in:


Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Sofia on March 09, 2019, 11:14:54 PM
Here you go: Wrestling erotica starts about 24:00 minutes in:

And ends about 1:32:13.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 10, 2019, 10:22:50 AM
Here is a screenshot from virustotal.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 10, 2019, 11:34:18 AM
Here is a screenshot from virustotal.

Those are two credible ones, not good... :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 10, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
Those are two credible ones, not good... :-\

BG is making more hit lists and there seems to be an indication of a surprise inside one of the theme scripts.
Might be bullshit.  Might not.  Perhaps some of Bellgab's enemies are smarter than they look.  It would be a delicious
irony if that were the case.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 10, 2019, 01:31:17 PM
BG is making more hit lists and there seems to be an indication of a surprise inside one of the theme scripts.
Might be bullshit.  Might not.  Perhaps some of Bellgab's enemies are smarter than they look.  It would be a delicious
irony if that were the case.
That's some good research there, I have to say I find it a bit hard to believe MV is behind any this, so your riff on enemies seems apt. I wonder who they might be, who's really got it in for BG?

Regardless of the forum spats that's a cold shot to take. :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on March 10, 2019, 01:45:22 PM
It's probably something he installed without knowing it was infected. Didn't someone post proof of mv using a fake guest script a while back?  Another forum I belong to had a problem with viruses inserted in political memes that were hotlinked. I don't think mv did it maliciously but I he is saying it is a false positive so he is being lazy about it instead of figuring it out. I also don't think it was anyone targeting his site and it is probably an infected addon he used.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 10, 2019, 01:45:30 PM
That's some good research there, I have to say I find it a bit hard to believe MV is behind any this, so your riff on enemies seems apt. I wonder who they might be, who's really got it in for BG?

Regardless of the forum spats that's a cold shot to take. :(

Perhaps the guys that claim it is a front for kiddie porn and claim they had it shutdown only for it to be respawned.  Maybe crazy morons are just crazy?

[ here I am stirring shit on a Sunday when I've got work to do.   Bad WAN.  Bad. ]
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 10, 2019, 01:47:14 PM
It's probably something he installed without knowing it was infected. Didn't someone post proof of mv using a fake guest script a while back?  Another forum I belong to had a problem with viruses inserted in political memes that were hotlinked. I don't think mv did it maliciously but I he is saying it is a false positive so he is being lazy about it instead of figuring it out. I also don't think it was anyone targeting his site and it is probably an infected addon he used.


^^^^  This is most certainly the case but it's more fun to speculate otherwise. 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 10, 2019, 01:53:46 PM
Perhaps the guys that claim it is a front for kiddie porn and claim they had it shutdown only for it to be respawned.  Maybe crazy morons are just crazy?

[ here I am stirring shit on a Sunday when I've got work to do.   Bad WAN.  Bad. ]

Nah, you're OK man...and your posit on kiddie porn isn't without prior discussion of said in BG. There may be pizzagate vigilantes out there who didn't find such discussion (even in jest)  all that amusing... :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 10, 2019, 01:56:20 PM
Nah, you're OK man...and your posit on kiddie porn isn't without prior discussion of said in BG. There may be pizzagate vigilantes out there who didn't find such discussion (even in jest)  all that amusing... :-\

I'm also too lazy to whitelist bg or access it in a VM.   I have to imagine new posts over there have ground to a halt.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 10, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
Here you go: Wrestling erotica starts about 24:00 minutes in:




Thanks for the clip. I watch catfights for scientific research only.  ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on March 10, 2019, 04:06:07 PM

^^^^  This is most certainly the case but it's more fun to speculate otherwise.

I could tell you which remote rendition site he was taken to last July but it would endanger both of us.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 10, 2019, 04:40:08 PM
That's some good research there, I have to say I find it a bit hard to believe MV is behind any this...

MW got tired of the forum and shut it down for several months.  With no notice, no apology.  Twice.  Most recently claiming he promises to keep it open for 10 years.

Who's to say this isn't a ploy to close it without taking blame?  Perhaps it's a happy coincidence for him - perhaps he didn't intentionally do it but is happy to take advantage of it and leave it like it like this.  Whether or not any of this is the case, it's the sort of speculation he should expect.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 11, 2019, 10:34:30 AM
MW got tired of the forum and shut it down for several months.  With no notice, no apology.  Twice.  Most recently claiming he promises to keep it open for 10 years.

Promises aside, yes he apparently did, barring you buy Gravity's "rendition" intimation... ::)

Quote
Who's to say this isn't a ploy to close it without taking blame?  Perhaps it's a happy coincidence for him - perhaps he didn't intentionally do it but is happy to take advantage of it and leave it like it like this.  Whether or not any of this is the case, it's the sort of speculation he should expect.

It's also not unfounded speculation.

When he chose to re-enable the dick doctor you can observe that he invited the wolf into the pasture and then took offense when the guard dog did what comes naturally and went after him. As a result the forum lost its two greatest click-through generators and thereby resultant traffic.

Does anyone go there to read Brig's pallid attempts at Heather reanimation? Is her fixation on the homeless livestream guy in NYC compelling reading? Has Jackstar's "everything is a conspiracy" act worn a bit thin?

Does it seem a bit forced when Brig speaks for MV and says he believes the suicide note is real and wants this "James Cheney" character to join him on a Gabcast to examine as much?

It's all playing out as a lot more Eddie Lampert/Sears than it is a turnaround story is my observation. :o

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 11, 2019, 10:37:06 AM
I'm also too lazy to whitelist bg or access it in a VM.   I have to imagine new posts over there have ground to a halt.

You are not wrong:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 11, 2019, 10:43:51 AM
You are not wrong:
Wow, from your screenshot of BG there were only 15 or so posts in the last 12 hours. Not good.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 11, 2019, 11:16:00 AM
Wow, from your screenshot of BG there were only 15 or so posts in the last 12 hours. Not good.

Yes and in the morning there may only be 4 users!

It looks like a ghost forum over there. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 11, 2019, 12:03:42 PM
Yes and in the morning there may only be 4 users!

It looks like a ghost forum over there. :-\
I really think that the best days of bellgab was in the past. After MV shut down his forum, he pretty much put the last nail into the coffin.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 11, 2019, 12:29:21 PM
I really think that the best days of bellgab was in the past. After MV shut down his forum, he pretty much put the last nail into the coffin.
The thing is, it's still the only place I know of where you can go and read actual posts from Art Bell to his "fans"...and the interviews on the ufoship.com archives hold some amazing background to all the quitennings and other side shows over the years.

I hate to see that lost. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 11, 2019, 12:40:45 PM
The thing is, it's still the only place I know of where you can go and read actual posts from Art Bell to his "fans"...and the interviews on the ufoship.com archives hold some amazing background to all the quitennings and other side shows over the years.

I hate to see that lost. :-\
Yes it was great to see and interact with Art on Bellgab. Also it was fun when both Art and George Noory were both on bellgab too. It was a fun ride back in the day.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 11, 2019, 12:44:32 PM
Yes it was great to see and interact with Art on Bellgab. Also it was fun when both Art and George Noory were both on bellgab too. It was a fun ride back in the day.

I'm OK with MV moving on from it too, I mean he doesn't have to be archivist to Art forever, the man has his own life. I just wish he'd given a bit of a heads up first. Also that whole business of toying with what the website brought up now and again when it was 'down' signaled a lot more of "game on" than "I'm done with this"... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 11, 2019, 02:56:42 PM
I'm OK with MV moving on from it too, I mean he doesn't have to be archivist to Art forever, the man has his own life. I just wish he'd given a bit of a heads up first. Also that whole business of toying with what the website brought up now and again when it was 'down' signaled a lot more of "game on" than "I'm done with this"... ::)
It seems few people care about it anymore. MV should just bow out, close it down and move on. Sell the name for a few dollars and be done with it. Bart might even give him a Bart Coin for it :) Even ufoship has gone stale with nothing new since the beginning of November.

Alternately, he could change it into a read-only Art Bell archive with the Art Bell posts and Art Bell related interviews. Set it and forget it. Little maintenance needed.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on March 11, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
Whoever is still posting there needs a better firewall and antivirus if it is not alerting them.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 11, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
Whoever is still posting there needs a better firewall and antivirus if it is not alerting them.
agree.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Rikki Gins on March 11, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
Whoever is still posting there needs a better firewall and antivirus if it is not alerting them.

I still post over there.  I have top of the line, ESET NOD32 Antivirus software and if there was a problem, I would certainly be notified about it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 11, 2019, 04:14:23 PM
I still post over there.  I have top of the line, ESET NOD32 Antivirus software and if there was a problem, I would certainly be notified about it.

My shit blocks the site totally.   Guess I need to unlazy myself and see what's up.   
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 11, 2019, 04:21:20 PM
It seems few people care about it anymore. MV should just bow out, close it down and move on. Sell the name for a few dollars and be done with it. Bart might even give him a Bart Coin for it :) Even ufoship has gone stale with nothing new since the beginning of November.

Alternately, he could change it into a read-only Art Bell archive with the Art Bell posts and Art Bell related interviews. Set it and forget it. Little maintenance needed.

It was a great forum full of great members when I posted there in the recent past. The owner valued free speech too, and that trait became an increasingly scarce commodity on the 'net. The present environment got too toxic, though, and I realized that things changed since the glory days that many of us enjoyed. Maybe MV could just use his board as a repository of fun posts from the good times.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 12, 2019, 02:29:16 PM
It seems few people care about it anymore. MV should just bow out, close it down and move on. Sell the name for a few dollars and be done with it. Bart might even give him a Bart Coin for it :) Even ufoship has gone stale with nothing new since the beginning of November.

Alternately, he could change it into a read-only Art Bell archive with the Art Bell posts and Art Bell related interviews. Set it and forget it. Little maintenance needed.

I like that idea - the web is full of great non-interactive archives. No reason it couldn't become a dedicated Art Bell fansite as opposed to a failing forum.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 12, 2019, 05:50:06 PM
I like that idea - the web is full of great non-interactive archives. No reason it couldn't become a dedicated Art Bell fansite as opposed to a failing failed forum.

fify
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 13, 2019, 08:42:57 AM
 :)

But wait, there's now "the Joos" to blame for every and any thing...BG is staging a beer hall rebirthing!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 13, 2019, 10:27:47 AM
Oh and according to MV White Crow has passed... :-\

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 13, 2019, 10:35:53 AM
Regarding the BG site issues, other members there are reporting problems. MV's response is "I suppose the only solution is for people to report it as a false positive."

Educational note to MV: The real solution is simple: Find the offending element, file, or attachment and delete it. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes for someone who knows what they are doing. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 13, 2019, 10:39:34 AM
Oh and according to MV White Crow has passed... :-\
Interesting, especially since White Crow logged in here at Ellgab this morning:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 13, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Regarding the BG site issues, other members there are reporting problems. MV's response is "I suppose the only solution is for people to report it as a false positive."

Educational note to MV: The real solution is simple: Find the offending element, file, or attachment and delete it. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes for someone who knows what they are doing. Problem solved.
Huh, but he's a computer repair and tech guy...right????

 :o :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 13, 2019, 11:01:58 AM
Interesting, especially since White Crow logged in here at Ellgab this morning:

MV's been running this scam with Brig for quite some time. The question is WHY???
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 13, 2019, 11:04:28 AM
Huh, but he's a computer repair and tech guy...right????

 :o :o
That's right. Even the local TV station ask him about computer related stuff for their news programs too.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 13, 2019, 12:09:16 PM
That's right. Even the local TV station ask him about computer related stuff for their news programs too.

I have seen these things with my own eyes - physician heal thyself! :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 13, 2019, 12:46:55 PM
MV's been running this scam with Brig for quite some time. The question is WHY???
Why indeed. The White Crow thing has gone stale and ran its course a while ago. In the time he has been posting about White Crow recently, he could have fixed the BG site issues (unless he doesn't know how, in which case, he should go online and learn how).
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 13, 2019, 12:50:21 PM
That's right. Even the local TV station ask him about computer related stuff for their news programs too.
Then there is no excuse  :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on March 13, 2019, 12:51:31 PM
Why indeed. The White Crow thing has gone stale and ran its course a while ago. In the time he has been posting about White Crow recently, he could have fixed the BG site issues (unless he doesn't know how, in which case, he should go online and learn how).

Two words. Plausible deniability.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 13, 2019, 07:16:57 PM
... Educational note to MV: The real solution is simple: Find the offending element, file, or attachment and delete it. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes for someone who knows what they are doing...

Yeah well, we've seen his level of expertise at BG over the years...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on March 13, 2019, 07:21:59 PM
That place, over there.. is dead as F**k and the settings are set to mark a post that was posted on a Monday to read as posted "yesterday" if there have been no new replies days later. My old board didn't give me that option.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 14, 2019, 02:35:54 PM
Yeah well, we've seen his level of expertise at BG over the years...

Better put a call in to wr250... 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 14, 2019, 02:38:46 PM
That place, over there.. is dead as F**k and the settings are set to mark a post that was posted on a Monday to read as posted "yesterday" if there have been no new replies days later. My old board didn't give me that option.

It's so dead that Brig is night-auditing Dave Schrader and Jackstar has called her out for it:



Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 14, 2019, 02:47:45 PM
It's so dead that Brig is night-auditing Dave Schrader and Jackstar has called her out for it:
Wow, down to 3 logged in participating members now:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 14, 2019, 02:57:58 PM
Crikey!

I can hear:

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on March 14, 2019, 04:53:34 PM
Wow, down to 3 logged in participating members now:

I'd like to make it 4 but I'd have to muck around with stuff - who wants to dick around with DNS  and antivirus settings after working all day?

Wish he'd fix his shit....................
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on March 14, 2019, 06:56:07 PM
Wish he'd fix his shit....................
Fat chance. This shit is 'funny' to him, as was making a terrorist threat
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WildCard on March 14, 2019, 07:08:47 PM
MV's been running this scam with Brig for quite some time. The question is WHY???

To humiliate you. By you, I mean you personally.
Post often.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on March 14, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
When did brig become so... scandalous? She used to be kind of nice, I think ??? Maybe not, I dunno
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: damon on March 14, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
Regarding the BG site issues, other members there are reporting problems. MV's response is "I suppose the only solution is for people to report it as a false positive."

Educational note to MV: The real solution is simple: Find the offending element, file, or attachment and delete it. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes for someone who knows what they are doing. Problem solved.
He also tells people on his local TV news station to flag stuff too.
http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/02/27/heartland-families-say-their-kids-have-seen-creepy-characters-youtube/
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 14, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
To humiliate you. By you, I mean you personally.

Uh...OK...but, I'm not really much of a...follower...of White Crow, so...????

Quote
Post often.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WOTR on March 14, 2019, 10:12:17 PM
I'd like to make it 4 but I'd have to muck around with stuff - who wants to dick around with DNS  and antivirus settings after working all day?

Wish he'd fix his shit....................
Funny. I just got home, went to log on again, and thought the same thing. I would join you and make it 5 but I'm just not in the mood to dick around with stuff.  I'll admit that I keep checking this thread for an update from anybody...

To give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose that I could say that if I'm not in the mood to dick around with computers when I get home, he likely may not be either.

On the other hand, that fucker DOES owe me.  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on March 14, 2019, 10:42:42 PM
Funny. I just got home, went to log on again, and thought the same thing. I would join you and make it 5 but I'm just not in the mood to dick around with stuff.  I'll admit that I keep checking this thread for an update from anybody...

To give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose that I could say that if I'm not in the mood to dick around with computers when I get home, he likely may not be either.

On the other hand, that fucker DOES owe me.  ;)

Much better than the ower fucking you.

Hey @WOTR
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 08:35:34 AM
Funny. I just got home, went to log on again, and thought the same thing. I would join you and make it 5 but I'm just not in the mood to dick around with stuff.  I'll admit that I keep checking this thread for an update from anybody...

To give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose that I could say that if I'm not in the mood to dick around with computers when I get home, he likely may not be either.

On the other hand, that fucker DOES owe me.  ;)

It's not like you're missing much, unless you get a special kick out of reading Brig's lonesome overnight summaries of Dave and Joorch. At least she got over the Capicotto trainwreck in consistently "any port in a storm" Brig-ishness... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 15, 2019, 09:35:37 AM
It's not like you're missing much, unless you get a special kick out of reading Brig's lonesome overnight summaries of Dave and Joorch.
+1 :)

It gets worse. Down to only 2 logged in participating users now and last post was 01:58:59 AM early this morning:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 15, 2019, 09:41:39 AM
Uh...OK...but, I'm not really much of a...follower...of White Crow, so...????
This just in: White Crow was resurrected (again) yesterday and logged in:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 10:02:49 AM
This just in: White Crow was resurrected (again) yesterday and logged in:
Just plain oddness, though one could posit it may be a family member doing some housekeeping after his demise...right MV? :o

I mean I'm sorry, the drama quotient on this LARP is scant at best. :-\

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 10:04:54 AM
+1 :)

It gets worse. Down to only 2 logged in participating users now and last post was 01:58:59 AM early this morning:
Damn...pulse anyone?

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 15, 2019, 12:10:41 PM
Damn...pulse anyone?

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Resuscitation quick!

Open note to MV: You need to:
* Actually have a Gabcast and stop promising one. It's not difficult.
* Restyle BG into something people would want to visit and/or participate in.
* Stop the lame attempts at comedy.
* Post more and make your posts useful and creative.
* Fix any outstanding site issues.
* Take out the trash.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 02:58:21 PM
Instead he's kow-towing to Brig of Frankenstein!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MAX on March 15, 2019, 03:04:46 PM
This just in: White Crow was resurrected (again) yesterday and logged in:

Originally it was the rumor Brig or Whitecrowed would buy the site then it was Brig then it was Whitehead as moderator and I stopped giving even a little shit about it after that. Personally I never had any MV issues was a member before Briggie and liked the guy still do much  as a anonymous intraweb user can. Wish them all to get what ever the fuck they are looking to get.  Sorry pulled a Miller and had a few beers.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 03:14:43 PM
Originally it was the rumor Brig or Whitecrowed would buy the site then it was Brig then it was Whitehead as moderator and I stopped giving even a little shit about it after that. Personally I never had any MV issues was a member before Briggie and liked the guy still do much  as a anonymous intraweb user can. Wish them all to get what ever the fuck they are looking to get.  Sorry pulled a Miller and had a few beers.
Interesting - had no idea those two were prospective buyers. ???

MV seems like an OK guy, has the dulcet tones for podcasting and radio.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 15, 2019, 03:29:16 PM
This just in: White Crow was resurrected (again) yesterday and logged in:

I'm glad that he's okay, but the whole thing is in bad taste. Forum interactions are like reaching into snake holes, and the latter might be safer.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 15, 2019, 03:34:21 PM
Interesting - had no idea those two were prospective buyers. ???

MV seems like an OK guy, has the dulcet tones for podcasting and radio.

The guy has a real gift for podcasting and radio. You wonder if he has any "might have been moments". Of course, it's only too late when you convince yourself that it is. He could turn a midlife forum crisis into a red corvette podcast venture.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 03:34:50 PM
I'm glad that he's okay, but the whole thing is in bad taste. Forum interactions are like reaching into snake holes, and the latter might be safer.

It's all too manipulative and creepy, and not really comical...but ultimately circular.

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 03:36:12 PM
The guy has a real gift for podcasting and radio. You wonder if he has any "might have been moments". Of course, it's only too late when you convince yourself that it is. He could turn a midlife forum crisis into a red corvette podcast venture.

I wish I'd saved that leering face gif he had on Bellgab just before it came back...so tantalizing.

MV knows drama.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 15, 2019, 03:56:34 PM
Bellgab today:

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 15, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
He also tells people on his local TV news station to flag stuff too.
http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/02/27/heartland-families-say-their-kids-have-seen-creepy-characters-youtube/

Ok it's one thing to hear him talk, or to see a photo of him in that poncho and other settings - but to see him on video?  Oh shit, oh ha ha ha, what a doofus looking dork.  It all makes sense now.  I'm almost sorry I've been making sport of him
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: K_Dubb on March 15, 2019, 07:58:01 PM
Ok it's one thing to hear him talk, or to see a photo of him in that poncho and other settings - but to see him on video?  Oh shit, oh ha ha ha, what a doofus looking dork.  It all makes sense now.  I'm almost sorry I've been making sport of him

I would wear the hell out of that poncho.  It's almost like the cowichan sweaters popular up here among dirty hipster trash.  I'm sorry he didn't put it up for auction.  Maybe he can import them with his connections.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on March 16, 2019, 09:07:59 AM
Ok it's one thing to hear him talk, or to see a photo of him in that poncho and other settings - but to see him on video?  Oh shit, oh ha ha ha, what a doofus looking dork.  It all makes sense now.  I'm almost sorry I've been making sport of him
I laughed out loud when I saw the goober for the first time, his glitch made sense entirely.
It must be pretty easy to be fuckin Yoda when you're living in a small yokel hamlet (Population: 103).
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 16, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
The guy has a real gift for podcasting and radio. You wonder if he has any "might have been moments". Of course, it's only too late when you convince yourself that it is. He could turn a midlife forum crisis into a red corvette podcast venture.
Good points. It's never to late to have a defining moment in life and create a real success story.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 16, 2019, 11:06:47 AM
Ok it's one thing to hear him talk, or to see a photo of him in that poncho and other settings - but to see him on video?  Oh shit, oh ha ha ha, what a doofus looking dork.  It all makes sense now.  I'm almost sorry I've been making sport of him

So why does he perpetuate the MV naming convention when he is on TV as MW?

Very odd. :-\
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 03:39:51 PM
It's all too manipulative and creepy, and not really comical...but ultimately circular.

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Forget the old jackass. The Democratic Party should use that as their new symbol.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
I wish I'd saved that leering face gif he had on Bellgab just before it came back...so tantalizing.

MV knows drama.

I feel like the late Verne Troyer. All of these references go over my head.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 03:45:20 PM
Good points. It's never to late to have a defining moment in life and create a real success story.

Just look at Trump. He won the presidency and increased the ratings of bitter late night talk show hosts at the exact same time.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 16, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
I feel like the late Verne Troyer. All of these references go over my head.

Oh sorry...during the time bellgab was down, and just before it came back, MV posted a gif of a leering smile for maybe a week or so, then soon after BG was back and running!

Sorta like this one:

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 03:58:35 PM
Oh sorry...during the time bellgab was down, and just before it came back, MV posted a gif of a leering smile for maybe a week or so, then soon after BG was back and running!

Sorta like this one:

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I see. I guess that he took online courses from the Art Bell Cryptic College with a major in Stay Tuned.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 16, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
I see. I guess that he took online courses from the Art Bell Cryptic College with a major in Stay Tuned.

Yep, pure theater all the way.

I give Michael his due there, dude knows how to build suspense.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 04:14:56 PM
Yep, pure theater all the way.

I give Michael his due there, dude knows how to build suspense.

He learned from the master. I'd give my eye tooth to take another "ride".
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 16, 2019, 04:22:14 PM
He learned from the master. I'd give my eye tooth to take another "ride".

Well...there's always ...the other side... ::)

But I think we can both wait in line for that event horizon. In fact you can have my place and I'll go buy us both a beer - you let me know if I miss any great plays... ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 04:26:33 PM
Well...there's always ...the other side... ::)

But I think we can both wait in line for that event horizon. In fact you can have my place and I'll go buy us both a beer - you let me know if I miss any great plays... ;D

My guess is that Art might be sharing a pitcher with Jim Marrs and Brad Steiger. Bad things really do happen in threes.  :-[
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on March 16, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
My guess is that Art might be sharing a pitcher with Jim Marrs and Brad Steiger. Bad things really do happen in threes.  :-[

Gee, it really was a bad year, wasn't it? :'(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WOTR on March 16, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
Much better than the ower fucking you.

Hey @WOTR
Hey, @GravitySucks

This is why I don't lend money...  ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WOTR on March 16, 2019, 09:25:46 PM
He also tells people on his local TV news station to flag stuff too.
http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/02/27/heartland-families-say-their-kids-have-seen-creepy-characters-youtube/
Truth be told, that is extremely disappointing. He appears far too normal to be the same MV that started BG.  :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on March 16, 2019, 11:13:01 PM
Gee, it really was a bad year, wasn't it? :'(

I was just grateful that Loren Coleman and Stanton Friedman didn't make it a quintet. That would have been gilding the casket lilies.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 17, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
Oh sorry...during the time bellgab was down, and just before it came back, MV posted a gif of a leering smile for maybe a week or so, then soon after BG was back and running!

Sorta like this one:

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Then after BG was back (using that term loosely) and very few members returned, the joke ended up being on MV.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 17, 2019, 09:43:15 AM
Originally it was the rumor Brig or Whitecrowed would buy the site then it was Brig then it was Whitehead as moderator and I stopped giving even a little shit about it after that. Personally I never had any MV issues was a member before Briggie and liked the guy still do much  as a anonymous intraweb user can. Wish them all to get what ever the fuck they are looking to get.  Sorry pulled a Miller and had a few beers.
Wonder how much they were going to pay for it. Probably the funniest thing about the shutdown was the $20K price MV asked for BG.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Dancing queen on March 18, 2019, 03:56:57 AM
So why does he perpetuate the MV naming convention when he is on TV as MW?

Very odd. :-\

Vandeven is his mother's maiden name. It could be his stage name or maybe he doesn't like his father.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WOTR on March 18, 2019, 12:27:03 PM
Vandeven is his mother's maiden name. It could be his stage name or maybe he doesn't like his father.
Makes perfect sense... Does anybody know the name of his bank?  8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 18, 2019, 06:02:33 PM
Makes perfect sense... Does anybody know the name of his bank?  8)

Wells Fargo?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on March 21, 2019, 06:27:23 PM
LOL

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 21, 2019, 08:58:52 PM
LOL

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Wow, that beats the lowest that I have seen which was 2 users.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: disclosure on March 21, 2019, 09:02:51 PM
Wow, that beats the lowest that I have seen which was 2 users.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on March 22, 2019, 07:39:38 AM
Wow, that beats the lowest that I have seen which was 2 users.

Such a cute avatar.  Happy day to you.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 22, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
Such a cute avatar.  Happy day to you.
Happy day to you too. Like the new halo on your avatar  :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on March 22, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
Happy day to you too. Like the new halo on your avatar  :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on March 22, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
Looks like the natives are getting restless at the lack of concern by their imperious leader about the site issues:
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: WOTR on March 24, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Looks like the natives are getting restless at the lack of concern by their imperious leader about the site issues:
I have to confess that I did head there today, and got to thinking that this may be MV's stalker moment... I hope not- but it is certainly feeling like it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on March 24, 2019, 06:16:29 PM
Doesn't take long to see that Brig is just hangin' on for dear life over there. Her and that "The Alcoholic" guy  MD has been MIA for some time now. It may be unpopular but I liked that guy. But now, he gone!!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on March 25, 2019, 05:51:17 AM
MV deserves a kingdom where it is him talking to Brig and Damon every day
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 25, 2019, 06:14:09 AM
MV deserves a kingdom where it is him talking to Brig and Damon every day

And MikeStar
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: BrightEyes on March 25, 2019, 08:44:54 AM
MV deserves a kingdom where it is him talking to Brig and Damon every day
@Delvis Diaz
Agree
+1
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: BartEllProducer on March 26, 2019, 07:12:22 AM
One has an extra B.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Richard Groyper on March 28, 2019, 03:48:47 PM
i will be cohosting the GabCast this coming Wednesday @ 7pm Pacific. @StarrMountain, @ponyboysunset i expect you two to call in so we can all heal together. amazin.

here's a little taste:
https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay/status/1111377955119198209
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: BartEllProducer on March 28, 2019, 05:06:15 PM
i will be cohosting the GabCast this coming Wednesday @ 7pm Pacific. @StarrMountain, @ponyboysunset i expect you two to call in so we can all heal together. amazin.

here's a little taste:
https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay/status/1111377955119198209

Sounds good. Glad to hear yah on there.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Richard Groyper on March 28, 2019, 05:29:03 PM
Sounds good. Glad to hear yah on there.

thanks buddy. i look forward to it.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on March 28, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
i will be cohosting the GabCast this coming Wednesday @ 7pm Pacific. @StarrMountain, @ponyboysunset i expect you two to call in so we can all heal together. amazin.

here's a little taste:
https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay/status/1111377955119198209

I'm almost certain Brig will be listening.  Is there anyone else left?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on March 28, 2019, 06:30:24 PM
i will be cohosting the GabCast this coming Wednesday @ 7pm Pacific. @StarrMountain, @ponyboysunset i expect you two to call in so we can all heal together. amazin.

here's a little taste:
https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay/status/1111377955119198209

Where will the info on listening be?
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Richard Groyper on March 28, 2019, 07:29:12 PM
Where will the info on listening be?

on the website, just click on the GabCast link.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Richard Groyper on March 28, 2019, 07:29:37 PM
I'm almost certain Brig will be listening.  Is there anyone else left?

we'll see.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 02, 2019, 02:47:44 PM
Oh great, now it looks like I've gone and peeved MV off...my bad... :-\

There definitely should be a Gabcast, I simply took note of the alarming timeliness of the scheduling and recent events and guest host, and...well shoot...please don't bail on it based on my conspiracy theorizing Lee, like I said you always bring the drama! ::)

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 02, 2019, 04:38:34 PM
Oh great, now it looks like I've gone and peeved MV off...my bad... :-\

There definitely should be a Gabcast, I simply took note of the alarming timeliness of the scheduling and recent events and guest host, and...well shoot...please don't bail on it based on my conspiracy theorizing Lee, like I said you always bring the drama! ::)

I thought that you were banned from that august and hallowed forum. Evidently, your conduct didn't measure up the the good doctor's exemplary missives.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on April 02, 2019, 06:43:22 PM
Oh great, now it looks like I've gone and peeved MV off...my bad... :-\

There definitely should be a Gabcast, I simply took note of the alarming timeliness of the scheduling and recent events and guest host, and...well shoot...please don't bail on it based on my conspiracy theorizing Lee, like I said you always bring the drama! ::)
Apparently it doesn't take much to peeve him off. MV was told to do a Gabcast a while ago to help his numbers. Who knows, the Gabcast might get listeners in the double digits. Sad actually :D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 02, 2019, 06:47:08 PM
I thought that you were banned from that august and hallowed forum.

I am, seemingly irrevocably too. :'(

Quote
Evidently, your conduct didn't measure up the the good doctor's exemplary missives.

I pissed him off, I pissed Brig off, you do the math... :-X
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 02, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Apparently it doesn't take much to peeve him off. MV was told to do a Gabcast a while ago to help his numbers. Who knows, the Gabcast might get listeners in the double digits. Sad actually :D

I'll listen just to hear Groyper.

If you listen to some of his twitter sound bytes he's got a decent voice.

Anyway since the Anthony thing Brig has boosted the poast volume.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 02, 2019, 09:51:48 PM
I am, seemingly irrevocably too. :'(

I pissed him off, I pissed Brig off, you do the math... :-X

I just did the math. It's their loss and our gain.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on April 03, 2019, 08:34:08 AM
I just did the math. It's their loss and our gain.
+1
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 03, 2019, 08:37:42 AM
I just did the math. It's their loss and our gain.
Right on!

 :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 03, 2019, 03:54:55 PM
Right on!

 :)

Power to the people! Give peace a chance!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 04, 2019, 10:28:16 AM
Power to the people! Give peace a chance!
Amen and pass the troll spray!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 04, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
Amen and pass the troll spray!

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BellGab needs ten tractor-trailers filled with that stuff. Most of it should be used on the bad doctor.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 05, 2019, 09:03:02 AM
BellGab needs ten tractor-trailers filled with that stuff. Most of it should be used on the bad doctor.

Oh I would have said that before the three horsemen of the gestapo (Groyper, Kizuna and Malachi) revived the "Joos" hating... :(
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: MaxPower on April 05, 2019, 02:30:50 PM
Oh I would have said that before the three horsemen of the gestapo (Groyper, Kizuna and Malachi) revived the "Joos" hating... :(
Went over there to see if the Gabcast replay was up (didn't see it) and BG has gone downhill even more than the last time I was there. I would expect a boost in the participating member numbers after the Gabcast but it either didn't materialize or it has since evaporated.

After the Gabcast summary you posted, I really don't need to hear it anyway :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 05, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
Oh I would have said that before the three horsemen of the gestapo (Groyper, Kizuna and Malachi) revived the "Joos" hating... :(

The anti-Jewish nonsense gets on my nerves. The anime cats are cute, though.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 06, 2019, 07:39:00 PM
Went over there to see if the Gabcast replay was up (didn't see it) and BG has gone downhill even more than the last time I was there. I would expect a boost in the participating member numbers after the Gabcast but it either didn't materialize or it has since evaporated.

After the Gabcast summary you posted, I really don't need to hear it anyway :)

They're staging a furious reboot now, "The Alcoholic" is back and trying to revive about a dozen dead threads.

Plus they're working Anthony like a pogo stick. :-X

Dunno how it'll go for them long term, well enough I hope to keep the place active, be a shame to lose that massive archive of things Art and otherwise.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 06, 2019, 07:39:57 PM
The anti-Jewish nonsense gets on my nerves. The anime cats are cute, though.

Same here.

I just can't seem to locate the "humor" module in Hitler...which I think is a pretty good thing... 8)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on April 06, 2019, 09:36:01 PM

Anyone else notice it's beginning to smell a lot like Bellgab over here

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 21st Century Man on April 06, 2019, 10:07:43 PM
Anyone else notice it's beginning to smell a lot like Bellgab over here

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I wouldn't know.  I've been AWOL.  Great to see ya. TL. "til later. ;)

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: JayGab on April 06, 2019, 10:13:45 PM
What most of you don't know is that MD is a an actual DR. His name is Miguel Davis, currently practicing in the State of Maryland.  Two Aspirins, call em' in the morning.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 06, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
Anyone else notice it's beginning to smell a lot like Bellgab over here
Anyone notice you're a bit of a censor?

???
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 06, 2019, 10:30:50 PM
What most of you don't know is that MD is a an actual DR. His name is Miguel Davis, currently practicing in the State of Maryland.  Two Aspirins, call em' in the morning.

Not found here:

https://www.mbp.state.md.us/bpqapp/Search.asp

 :o
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on April 06, 2019, 10:35:29 PM
What most of you don't know is that MD is a an actual DR. His name is Miguel Davis, currently practicing in the State of Maryland.  Two Aspirins, call em' in the morning.

I thought it stood for Mogen David
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: JayGab on April 06, 2019, 11:02:02 PM
Not found here:

https://www.mbp.state.md.us/bpqapp/Search.asp

 :o
He's in the other directory, dickwad. The one with the coat hangers.. ;D  And thanks for the smite, fuckface.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: PB on April 06, 2019, 11:19:16 PM
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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: JayGab on April 06, 2019, 11:49:42 PM
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The O's are off to a fine start this year. That said; they will not realize October baseball.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on April 07, 2019, 12:30:12 AM
I wouldn't know.  I've been AWOL.  Great to see ya. TL. "til later. ;)



 @21st Century Man  darling! I have missed you. Glad you came to your senses and came home
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on April 07, 2019, 12:31:41 AM
Anyone notice you're a bit of a censor?

???

You still have your one-way pass to the zoo? Smiter
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: JayGab on April 07, 2019, 01:11:53 AM
You still have your one-way pass to the zoo? Smiter
I'm in the Zoo right now. The animals bite and they fart alot. It's no picnic!!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 08:44:38 AM
You still have your one-way pass to the zoo? Smiter
And yet I've mot smitten you, in fact you got a +1 the other day and one as this goes out just for the symmetry of it.

 ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 08:45:45 AM
He's in the other directory, dickwad. The one with the coat hangers.. ;D  And thanks for the smite, fuckface.
Brand new troll - wonder who your prior sock was... ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: TigerLily on April 07, 2019, 09:09:22 AM
And yet I've mot smitten you, in fact you got a +1 the other day and one as this goes out just for the symmetry of it.

 ::)

My apologies then. I guess you just have that squinty-eyed, evil look that usually goes along with a smiter. No hard feelings  +1
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 09:19:51 AM
My apologies then. I guess you just have that squinty-eyed, evil look that usually goes along with a smiter. No hard feelings  +1

Why thank you, I'll wait 2 hours and +1 ya again, I mean why not, right? ;)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on April 07, 2019, 09:22:47 AM
Why thank you, I'll wait 2 hours and +1 ya again, I mean why not, right? ;)

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I have no idea what is going, but I 1+ both of you.  Why not?   :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
I have no idea what is going, but I 1+ both of you.  Why not?   :)

Aww....you rock!

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: anniem on April 07, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
Aww....you rock!

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Happy day to you. If it is day around you. If not, happy whatever it is.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 09:48:51 AM
Happy day to you. If it is day around you. If not, happy whatever it is.

Tis a glorious late mornin' and the very best your way as well! :)

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 07, 2019, 03:52:49 PM
Brand new troll - wonder who your prior sock was... ::)

Did the bad doctor make a house call? If so, call the fumigation company.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 07, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
Did the bad doctor make a house call? If so, call the fumigation company.
That is a possibility, hmmm... ???

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Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: JayGab on April 07, 2019, 06:21:04 PM
Brand new troll
Brooks and Dunn?


"Wellll I saw the light I was baptized by the fire in your touch and the flame in your eyes. Born to troll again, I'm a brand new troll" ;)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 08, 2019, 10:24:50 AM
Brooks and Dunn?


"Wellll I saw the light I was baptized by the fire in your touch and the flame in your eyes. Born to troll again, I'm a brand new troll" ;)

ZaZa? ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 08, 2019, 12:21:41 PM
And the latest Gabcast is now up:

http://www.ufoship.com/?cat=10
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 08, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
Gone phishin'...

https://brightcloud.com/tools/url-ip-lookup.php

WWW.BELLGAB.COM

Web Reputation:

- High Risk (10 of 100)

Web Category:

- Phishing and Other Frauds

Web Reputation Influences:

  - 1 infections (past 12 months)
  - Medium popularity
  - 71 months old (established)

(Huh...thought MV had this handled - guess not...)

WWW.ELLGAB.COM

Web Reputation:

- Trustworthy (88 of 100)

Web Reputation Influences:

  - No infections past 12 months
  - Medium popularity
  - 8 months old (established)

 :)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Nucky Nolan on April 08, 2019, 04:01:52 PM
That is a possibility, hmmm... ???

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Here's a fun fact. That bug spray is much less toxic than the bad doctor's sick and twisted mind.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on April 08, 2019, 09:19:20 PM
And the latest Gabcast is now up:

http://www.ufoship.com/?cat=10
Only minutes in and Groyper announces he has a small, "penis" This broadcast is gonna cook!!
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 09, 2019, 09:46:34 AM
Meanwhile BSilly/Brig has been made by Rally Squirrel for her obsessive "following":

Quote
Rally Squirrel
 
Re: The General Musings of Rally Squirrel
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 07:48:38 PM »
What is the point of this God Damned useless thread?

All you are doing is reposting videos with no commentary on them. You are showing all of the creativity of Damon or Jackstar. At least say something good or bad about it, for fucks sake no one can even tell if you watch them.

As it stands it just looks like you are being a cunty bitch just reposting what ever you see for some crazy reason that only you know.

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 09, 2019, 03:50:14 PM
One more of the Rally Squirrel basically putting Deviant ballgrabbers in their place:

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Delvis Diaz on April 10, 2019, 07:02:54 AM
You have to laugh at a dude from the anus of the Midwest saying that California is a complete no-go.

Give him some credit, he always was funny.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 10, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
You have to laugh at a dude from the anus of the Midwest saying that California is a complete no-go.

Give him some credit, he always was funny.

How many sidewalk shitters and needle parks in the midwest?

Uh huh... ;D
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on April 16, 2019, 08:37:55 PM
What about a forum rumble? Could they take us? You know, 3 O Clock after school kinda thing. We have the numbers but we're 64% cat lady and they ain't fightin' :-\ I dunno, to close to call
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: GravitySucks on April 16, 2019, 08:40:09 PM
What about a forum rumble? Could they take us? You know, 3 O Clock after school kinda thing. We have the numbers but we're 64% cat lady and they ain't fightin' :-\ I dunno, to close to call

Red rover, red rover, let Roswells, Art come over.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on April 16, 2019, 08:45:19 PM
Red rover, red rover, let Roswells, Art come over.
She's devoted. Her loyalty is over, there --> or is it there <--


Although..... Ellgab member TwistedLogic looks like her twin in that video where her dog knocks her and her chair over. Could be wrong..
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 17, 2019, 09:33:46 AM
Brig's found a new fixation - Erinn F/Seraphim.



Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on April 17, 2019, 07:48:10 PM
I must have missed something, but since when did MD and Paladin have such a falling out? Or was it always like that? Good God, I'm clueless to all these things :P
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: Walks_At_Night on April 17, 2019, 07:57:00 PM
I must have missed something, but since when did MD and Paladin have such a falling out? Or was it always like that? Good God, I'm clueless to all these things :P

Oh @paladin1991 and the Doc have locked horns for a long time.  Not nearly as entertaining as Paladins epic battles with the Curandero though. 
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: paladin1991 on April 18, 2019, 01:16:29 AM
I must have missed something, but since when did MD and Paladin have such a falling out? Or was it always like that? Good God, I'm clueless to all these things :P
The Dick dr lives in a special place that is inhabited by unicorns, Teletubbies and the spirit of 1955.  Me?  I'm rooted firmly on planet Earth.
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 18, 2019, 09:26:52 AM
I must have missed something, but since when did MD and Paladin have such a falling out? Or was it always like that? Good God, I'm clueless to all these things :P

No it's been that way for quite a while. MD refers to him as "FBI" and tears into him with verve each time he reappears.

Then again MD is filleting Kidnostad now, so his hands alligator arms are full...temporarily... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 18, 2019, 09:28:29 AM
The Dick dr lives in a special place that is inhabited by unicorns, Teletubbies and the spirit of 1955.  Me?  I'm rooted firmly on planet Earth.
He's like Mikey on crack...
Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 18, 2019, 09:55:47 AM
Meanwhile here's the latest that Brig's dredged up from the "hey pay attention to ME" youtubeverse:



Not afraid to be confused with Harrison Ford, that's one brave stay at home cellar dweller...

But hey, she's got all night to vape, stroke her chat furbies, and say jack-diddly NADA!

Oh it has happened - the interwebs are become CB radio... ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: 26 horses on April 18, 2019, 09:57:49 AM
Groyper is pissed...

Title: Re: Ellgab vs Bellgab
Post by: KSM32 on April 18, 2019, 03:06:43 PM
Meanwhile here's the latest that Brig's dredged up from the "hey pay attention to ME" youtubeverse:


She's got a nose on her.. Tall forehead too..