Listening in on the Vocaroo of WSV et al, WSV claims that Katie is tougher than Neely himself. Hmmmm. Okay, so how I read that is: WSV is Beta Bitch to Neely's 'Rage in Cage, Throw a Beating on You if You are a Female' Beta male to Katie's Peg the Beta male.
It's a mixed up, cucked up world kids!