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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70275 on: December 30, 2018, 09:43:47 AM »
First world problems....Amazon pantry is sooooooo slow!!!

We haven't tried that yet. Are you happy with it?
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70276 on: December 30, 2018, 09:49:35 AM »

I had a life long lost friend who i had to cut off.  He became a loony Christian  and told me i had to change.  We were friends for 15 years.  Best friends ive had.  Many. But fake friends just used me.  No one on facebook is ur friend. Remember that

Eh, religion can be complex and touchy stuff.
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70277 on: December 30, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »
This is how it works--if they ask for money, give what you can. And do NOT expect to be paid back. Actually you tell them not to pay you back. Those are the rules...

Exactly right. Never loan money to friends or family. Give what you can and expect no return. If it is refunded then it’s a plus you weren’t expecting.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70278 on: December 30, 2018, 09:59:41 AM »
I don't have a problem cutting friends off. Have done it to dozens on them. I just cut off and never speak to you again.  I lost a friend because he lied to me. He said he would meet up and drink some beers.  We had planned it and he said yes for sure. He left me hanging. I called him and called and he didnt answer.  Told him to fuk off next day.


Also i never speak to exes.  Break it off.  Never answer calls
And yet you put up with all the crap HW puts out.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70279 on: December 30, 2018, 10:01:29 AM »
me and my neighbor hated each other, when a torrential rain hit I started diverting a stream from his house..he came out to help after being too dumb to realize it was going to flood his house. We got done and didn't say a word to each other..the idiot : )

Neighbors are another thing entirely.  I don't want to think about it!
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70280 on: December 30, 2018, 10:02:21 AM »
This is how it works--if they ask for money, give what you can. And do NOT expect to be paid back. Actually you tell them not to pay you back. Those are the rules...

Smart rules.
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70281 on: December 30, 2018, 10:08:33 AM »
Annie I love your New Years pup in your avatar. Do you have a pug?  Such nice dogs.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70282 on: December 30, 2018, 10:15:28 AM »
I don't have a problem cutting friends off. Have done it to dozens on them. I just cut off and never speak to you again.  I lost a friend because he lied to me. He said he would meet up and drink some beers.  We had planned it and he said yes for sure. He left me hanging. I called him and called and he didnt answer.  Told him to fuk off next day.
Also i never speak to exes.  Break it off.  Never answer calls

I was quite startled when I realized a friend I knew from childhood was a liar. Not smart on my part though, she told some whoppers to other people and I somehow thought she wouldn't lie to ME!  Just awful, once in my mid-teens her father showed up at my door with an antibiotic for her, she had forgotten it at home and he wanted to make sure she didn't miss a dose. I'll never forget his face when I told him she wasn't there, I was really confused and then realized when I saw his face that she'd told her parents she was sleeping over at my house.

But JM, Heather has told a number of lies. That doesn't bother you?

All the times I listened to Art I had no idea about his private life beyond the little bit he spoke about on air. There was quite a bit available, but I didn't come across it. Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like knowing the less positive things about him while he was still broadcasting.  I wonder if I would have ignored it all like the die-hard HW fans seem to.  That certainly is an option, and I'd rather see people say "I know, but I don't care" rather than seeing them killing the messengers the way they do.
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70283 on: December 30, 2018, 10:24:32 AM »
I was quite startled when I realized a friend I knew from childhood was a liar. Not smart on my part though, she told some whoppers to other people and I somehow thought she wouldn't lie to ME!  Just awful, once in my mid-teens her father showed up at my door with an antibiotic for her, she had forgotten it at home and he wanted to make sure she didn't miss a dose. I'll never forget his face when I told him she wasn't there, I was really confused and then realized when I saw his face that she'd told her parents she was sleeping over at my house.

But JM, Heather has told a number of lies. That doesn't bother you?

All the times I listened to Art I had no idea about his private life beyond the little bit he spoke about on air. There was quite a bit available, but I didn't come across it. Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like knowing the less positive things about him while he was still broadcasting.  I wonder if I would have ignored it all like the die-hard HW fans seem to.  That certainly is an option, and I'd rather see people say "I know, but I don't care" rather than seeing them killing the messengers the way they do.
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70284 on: December 30, 2018, 10:31:13 AM »
Annie I love your New Years pup in your avatar. Do you have a pug?  Such nice dogs.

I don't have a pug. Boodie is half beagle and half cavalier spaniel. She looks more beagle. This is her with her good buddy Zeety.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70285 on: December 30, 2018, 10:36:13 AM »
I don't have a pug. Boodie is half beagle and half cavalier spaniel. She looks more beagle. This is her with her good buddy Zeety.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70286 on: December 30, 2018, 10:38:19 AM »
And yet you put up with all the crap HW puts out.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70287 on: December 30, 2018, 10:52:24 AM »
I don't have a pug. Boodie is half beagle and half cavalier spaniel. She looks more beagle. This is her with her good buddy Zeety.
Awe they are adorable. They look like real loves. I’m a big animal lover.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70288 on: December 30, 2018, 10:53:21 AM »
I’m starting to think possibly the same thing. We really need a good timeline. Her appearance and then slotting into place within MITD ... just seems very manufactured.

What a great puzzle though!
@DynamoHum, I saw the revelations from Pete Eberhardt yesterday. While has a voice that can contribute to solving these mysteries, it is imperative to realize the information they provide are going to have a slant. The key is to listen for things that are corroborated and tell "the rest of the story" as they say.

An example, we had always heard that it was Heather who fired Pete and this didn't make sense. It was Keith that did the official firing and Heather who called him later. The reasons make more sense here in that he wasn't shocked about this as he was already redundant as the show numbers probably didn't even warrant keeping him around in an advertising sales capacity even in Art's last couple of months on the show unless he could double up or take on some other duties as there was already a decline from the July and August excitement.

For whatever reasons, Art was already branded as a "has been" by national advertisers. Midnight in the Desert in December 2015 was supported only by his strongest fans as his casual fans had already fallen away since the blitz and July 20 launch. I think Art knew inside that his last chance of making a comeback on the scale of his golden era died when the Sirius XM Dark Matter deal fell apart in October 2013. That was why he was so distraught about that. Heather was the siren call among the Bellgab community at that point. "No Art, you are not washed up, please come back. Please send Art cat pictures! You have my number please call me."  Midnight in the Desert was a last ditch effort, but by the time it was underway the COPD had a grip on him. It was not to the point even close to gravely ill and gasping for breath, but that it made doing a 3 hour show, 5 days a week uncomfortable and short of what he knew was his best.  His back issues were still there as well. Combining these factors he looked for an external reason, any way to leave the show. While the origin of stalker is still debated (I think he was real and somewhat known by Art and Karen), he certainly wasn't going to let that excuse go to waste, so he maxed out the potential drama on this.

Art's suggestion of Heather was going to carry weight mostly because there were no takers on Keith's side that could step in on such short order. Keith would have not had any particular reason to be loyal to any candidate, he would want who was best for the network as long as they could work with him. He had already decided to shut down the network an set that into motion when Art called him and persuaded him to continue with Heather as host. I think he would have felt guilty to a degree that without his presence, Heather and Keith would have been out of work without him, so he was going to do everything possible to support them in continuing. This included plugs and moving Heather to the Pahrump studio. The audio quality of Heather's California studio was dreadful in comparison, so renting her the unused guest house was to Art a no-brainer and cheaper to him than buying another ten grand in equipment when he had no financial incentive. Plus renting her the house, he could even make some money.

Heather announced her move by stating "new phone lines and equipment were on their way" several weeks earlier. She was telling the truth in that she was on her way to the equipment and not the other way around to keep her location disguised.

Why he sold the guest house to her is somewhat banal. The entire reason he bought it in the first place was to have a studio that would not disturb Asia when she was young during the Dark Matters days and provide a place for visitors and friendly radio business associates to stay as a courtesy. Being that he didn't intend on coming back into radio and was settled into family life again, he didn't really care about the guest house at that point and selling it would provide another revenue stream for the family once he was gone as his health was still in steady decline. Plus it would take away distractions of needing to fix things on both the house and studio (of which Heather probably had complaints meant more as an excuse to try to get Art to look at them) and put those problems back in her hands as he was probably tired of hearing about these and calling and paying for service workers.

I don't think there was ever an affair. Heather was obviously smitten with Art it was never reciprocated. He was attracted at very least to her voice and did think she had some degree of talent and did want the best for her and for Keith radio career wise. I don't think he had any idea of her temper or instability until months after she had moved there in February 2016 and chalked most of that up to being a typical radio show biz personality. If he later gained any idea that her issues ran deeper than that, he probably did his best to cover for her as a means of saving face and not looking the fool to Karen or his fan base. I think his regular phone calls and advice kept her on track.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #70289 on: December 30, 2018, 11:14:12 AM »
@DynamoHum, I saw the revelations from Pete Eberhardt yesterday. While has a voice that can contribute to solving these mysteries, it is imperative to realize the information they provide are going to have a slant. The key is to listen for things that are corroborated and tell "the rest of the story" as they say.

An example, we had always heard that it was Heather who fired Pete and this didn't make sense. It was Keith that did the official firing and Heather who called him later. The reasons make more sense here in that he wasn't shocked about this as he was already redundant as the show numbers probably didn't even warrant keeping him around in an advertising sales capacity even in Art's last couple of months on the show unless he could double up or take on some other duties as there was already a decline from the July and August excitement.

For whatever reasons, Art was already branded as a "has been" by national advertisers. Midnight in the Desert in December 2015 was supported only by his strongest fans as his casual fans had already fallen away since the blitz and July 20 launch. I think Art knew inside that his last chance of making a comeback on the scale of his golden era died when the Sirius XM Dark Matter deal fell apart in October 2013. That was why he was so distraught about that. Heather was the siren call among the Bellgab community at that point. "No Art, you are not washed up, please come back. Please send Art cat pictures! You have my number please call me."  Midnight in the Desert was a last ditch effort, but by the time it was underway the COPD had a grip on him. It was not to the point even close to gravely ill and gasping for breath, but that it made doing a 3 hour show, 5 days a week uncomfortable and short of what he knew was his best.  His back issues were still there as well. Combining these factors he looked for an external reason, any way to leave the show. While the origin of stalker is still debated (I think he was real and somewhat known by Art and Karen), he certainly wasn't going to let that excuse go to waste, so he maxed out the potential drama on this.

Art's suggestion of Heather was going to carry weight mostly because there were no takers on Keith's side that could step in on such short order. Keith would have not had any particular reason to be loyal to any candidate, he would want who was best for the network as long as they could work with him. He had already decided to shut down the network an set that into motion when Art called him and persuaded him to continue with Heather as host. I think he would have felt guilty to a degree that without his presence, Heather and Keith would have been out of work without him, so he was going to do everything possible to support them in continuing. This included plugs and moving Heather to the Pahrump studio. The audio quality of Heather's California studio was dreadful in comparison, so renting her the unused guest house was to Art a no-brainer and cheaper to him than buying another ten grand in equipment when he had no financial incentive. Plus renting her the house, he could even make some money.

Heather announced her move by stating "new phone lines and equipment were on their way" several weeks earlier. She was telling the truth in that she was on her way to the equipment and not the other way around to keep her location disguised.

Why he sold the guest house to her is somewhat banal. The entire reason he bought it in the first place was to have a studio that would not disturb Asia when she was young during the Dark Matters days and provide a place for visitors and friendly radio business associates to stay as a courtesy. Being that he didn't intend on coming back into radio and was settled into family life again, he didn't really care about the guest house at that point and selling it would provide another revenue stream for the family once he was gone as his health was still in steady decline. Plus it would take away distractions of needing to fix things on both the house and studio (of which Heather probably had complaints meant more as an excuse to try to get Art to look at them) and put those problems back in her hands as he was probably tired of hearing about these and calling and paying for service workers.

I don't think there was ever an affair. Heather was obviously smitten with Art it was never reciprocated. He was attracted at very least to her voice and did think she had some degree of talent and did want the best for her and for Keith radio career wise. I don't think he had any idea of her temper or instability until months after she had moved there in February 2016 and chalked most of that up to being a typical radio show biz personality. If he later gained any idea that her issues ran deeper than that, he probably did his best to cover for her as a means of saving face and not looking the fool to Karen or his fan base. I think his regular phone calls and advice kept her on track.

As usual this is a fantastic break down of things.

I do realise that Pete’s Version is going to be slanted, but I do note that there are correlations to be made from all the sources we have.

I also think any type of relationship more than a friendship was purely one sided - remember Karen said Heather was totally in love with Art. I am guessing he enjoyed that type of worship.

Agree also that Heather hid the crazy successfully for a long while and by then Art had no choice but to push the product no matter how much it probably stuck in his craw to do so. Guessing that the house sale was planned a while before it was finalised in Feb 2018, and by then he’d pulled away far enough that he didn;t care how crazy she was.



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