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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2310 on: July 11, 2018, 02:26:31 PM »
The TL:DR Postmortem of the Kingdom of Nye.

Today I am sad, but its not for the reasons one might think. Its the end of an era throughout the paranormal "radio" world and I think it was brought on by the rot or the dark side in social media and a series of mistakes. The mechanics of putting on a quality show is almost trivial and easy now in comparison to not fomenting a cult-like audience and getting glued to questionable business associates in the wilderness.  Watching the Heather Wade story vicariously can teach any prospective broadcaster or podcaster a lot of nuanced lessons. Its the end of the semester.

    HW's default solution to interpret "What Would Art Do?" did not work. Art was successful for his era. He was an Analog Man that adopted the digital. While could still blow the doors off his competition qualitatively, all his best efforts were going to fall short of doing the 500-station affiliate thing all over again.  Likely Art could have never really defeated him, just dented him in 2016 if he had stayed on.  George Noory is only "successful" because he was in the right place at the right time and he has the backing of the carcass of Art's media machine hitched to Big Media. A 45-year-old Nighthawk today would need to pursue a different route.

     Painted rocks and trinkets? That ain't workin'. The trend of unboxing videos don't translate to radio, because video is not radio. One member of the audience would be enjoying the show while the others would be dragged along. The same wisdom of not having psychics doing readings for callers would apply.

    Heather's attachment to all things Art contributed to both her brief spotlight in fame and her radio demise. He was an eternal flame catalyst, a  protective egrigore and 50-pound rusty anchor all at once.
 
   To separate any feeling we have about Art's legacy lets point out another star in a different field. Lets bring out Elvis*. We could have an Elvis impersonator that is musically just as talented and sings clearer than the King and might even be a tad more handsome. Such an individual with that shtick may be able to have an upper-middle class, maybe even wealthy lifestyle in Vegas, but he is not going to sell 610 million records (mp3s now) or have a Graceland. He could bring a few hundred to several thousand entertainment, but he is not going to start a new legacy, only keep alive the old one. If said impersonator just dropped the act and tried to make it on singing talent and looks alone, he would probably not make it unless he was lucky without the right connections, but the music industry is its own trap these days.

     Heather was molding herself (consciously or not)  to be a female Art impersonator with the aid of the legacy himself! She was in fact both part paranormal host and voice actress. She was trying to allow just enough of her own personality through to keep a plausible deniability with the oft-peppered phrase "I am not Art." However, the coincidences were enough to make most of  Art's fans uncomfortable, even with his blessing. "Its not about me" was true in that it wasn't about her. It was about her created personae's interpretation of Art in front of "all of you out there." Art's attitude, politics, and world schema were all projected to keep the audience. What Heather really believed is just a guess. If she had a belief that differed from what she thought his belief was, we would never hear it.

    Did we ever really know who Heather was outside of the shadows and reflections that mirrored Art's world? These areas were never explored.  There was of course the Wicca aspect (which fit in neatly with the show and the Paglini legacy), the NDE, the ghoul and the UFO sighting - but these were all tied to show content and still parallels to Art's shadow person and Big Black Delta UFO.

   What we knew about Heather as a person was always very sparse and filled with ambiguity. It was filler for the moment. We know she could play guitar, and loved heavy metal such as Danzig. She claimed to have rebuilt muscle cars. She worked at an automotive dealership and a theater. There was also mention that she worked with the developmentally disabled.

    She would have done better to play her favorite heavy metal bumpers and brought on more conversations about spell craft in the voice she had on the Gabcast. A week after Art's passing she could have simply quietly resigned from DMDN and made her own network without any drama if she wanted to do things her way. Art would have blessed a total change in course if she made a guitar and rock and roll show or an all-Wicca show, if I understood the master correctly. That is one aspect of his wisdom would stand today without any rust.

*nod to Bart Ell whose motto may be "Why settle for just one legacy?"

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2311 on: July 11, 2018, 02:33:53 PM »
The TL:DR Postmortem of the Kingdom of Nye.

Today I am sad, but its not for the reasons one might think. Its the end of an era throughout the paranormal "radio" world and I think it was brought on by the rot or the dark side in social media and a series of mistakes. The mechanics of putting on a quality show is almost trivial and easy now in comparison to not fomenting a cult-like audience and getting glued to questionable business associates in the wilderness.  Watching the Heather Wade story vicariously can teach any prospective broadcaster or podcaster a lot of nuanced lessons. Its the end of the semester.

    HW's default solution to interpret "What Would Art Do?" did not work. Art was successful for his era. He was an Analog Man that adopted the digital. While could still blow the doors off his competition qualitatively, all his best efforts were going to fall short of doing the 500-station affiliate thing all over again.  Likely Art could have never really defeated him, just dented him in 2016 if he had stayed on.  George Noory is only "successful" because he was in the right place at the right time and he has the backing of the carcass of Art's media machine hitched to Big Media. A 45-year-old Nighthawk today would need to pursue a different route.

     Painted rocks and trinkets? That ain't workin'. The trend of unboxing videos don't translate to radio, because video is not radio. One member of the audience would be enjoying the show while the others would be dragged along. The same wisdom of not having psychics doing readings for callers would apply.

    Heather's attachment to all things Art contributed to both her brief spotlight in fame and her radio demise. He was an eternal flame catalyst, a  protective egrigore and 50-pound rusty anchor all at once.
 
   To separate any feeling we have about Art's legacy lets point out another star in a different field. Lets bring out Elvis*. We could have an Elvis impersonator that is musically just as talented and sings clearer than the King and might even be a tad more handsome. Such an individual with that shtick may be able to have an upper-middle class, maybe even wealthy lifestyle in Vegas, but he is not going to sell 610 million records (mp3s now) or have a Graceland. He could bring a few hundred to several thousand entertainment, but he is not going to start a new legacy, only keep alive the old one. If said impersonator just dropped the act and tried to make it on singing talent and looks alone, he would probably not make it unless he was lucky without the right connections, but the music industry is its own trap these days.

     Heather was molding herself (consciously or not)  to be a female Art impersonator with the aid of the legacy himself! She was in fact both part paranormal host and voice actress. She was trying to allow just enough of her own personality through to keep a plausible deniability with the oft-peppered phrase "I am not Art." However, the coincidences were enough to make most of  Art's fans uncomfortable, even with his blessing. "Its not about me" was true in that it wasn't about her. It was about her created personae's interpretation of Art in front of "all of you out there." Art's attitude, politics, and world schema were all projected to keep the audience. What Heather really believed is just a guess. If she had a belief that differed from what she thought his belief was, we would never hear it.

    Did we ever really know who Heather was outside of the shadows and reflections that mirrored Art's world? These areas were never explored.  There was of course the Wicca aspect (which fit in neatly with the show and the Paglini legacy), the NDE, the ghoul and the UFO sighting - but these were all tied to show content and still parallels to Art's shadow person and Big Black Delta UFO.

   What we knew about Heather as a person was always very sparse and filled with ambiguity. It was filler for the moment. We know she could play guitar, and loved heavy metal such as Danzig. She claimed to have rebuilt muscle cars. She worked at an automotive dealership and a theater. There was also mention that she worked with the developmentally disabled.

    She would have done better to play her favorite heavy metal bumpers and brought on more conversations about spell craft in the voice she had on the Gabcast. A week after Art's passing she could have simply quietly resigned from DMDN and made her own network without any drama if she wanted to do things her way. Art would have blessed a total change in course if she made a guitar and rock and roll show or an all-Wicca show, if I understood the master correctly. That is one aspect of his wisdom would stand today without any rust.

*nod to Bart Ell whose motto may be "Why settle for just one legacy?"

This is really good. I do want to add one point. The whole reason Art came back first on Sirius and then MITD was to attempt to screw over C2C, Premiere and Noory. I remember the relish with which he told the story during the first night back on Sirius. I also think for Art,  as has been mentioned before it was the run up to launching the show, the interaction, the planning. The reality of it was less pleasant for him. I think very much the same was true for Heater. She took on a show that was brought about to fuck over another show, when the person with the sour grapes didn’t want to do it anymore. When he was gone she just didn’t want to do it anymore and probably hadn’t for a while, but Keith was there keeping her in check before Art’s death. With Gramps gone Heather rebelled, believed her emperors new clothes following and was blindsided by the likes of Lasha telling her she was more than she was.

Heater took on a show that had no future because it was only ever meant to destroy.

I do want to also add that Keith has been clever, he’s turned it inside out and renewed it just enough, and Dave has pulled it far enough away from that to give it a freshness.

Probably a load of old bollocks, but thats my take on it.
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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2312 on: July 11, 2018, 02:37:31 PM »
Probably has an FBI file as long as his beard.

Mike did time for wreckless endangerment with a weapon. But as with any of these lolcows, it's hard to tell what's real

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2313 on: July 11, 2018, 02:45:07 PM »
I'd like to see if even Paul has jumped ship, but the Fringe group kicked me out. Even though I never posted in there

No, Paul has not jumped ship, he misses her terribly already... sigh.
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2314 on: July 11, 2018, 02:46:29 PM »
The TL:DR Postmortem of the Kingdom of Nye.
What we knew about Heather as a person was always very sparse and filled with ambiguity. It was filler for the moment. We know she could play guitar, and loved heavy metal such as Danzig. She claimed to have rebuilt muscle cars. She worked at an automotive dealership and a theater. There was also mention that she worked with the developmentally disabled.

Those are some things I actually did not know, which is to your point...we don't need an Art clone, because she will only ever be a clone. What was unique about her, aside from the night she rather coyly described her tattoos, was never to be our province, oh well...

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She would have done better to play her favorite heavy metal bumpers and brought on more conversations about spell craft in the voice she had on the Gabcast. A week after Art's passing she could have simply quietly resigned from DMDN and made her own network without any drama if she wanted to do things her way. Art would have blessed a total change in course if she made a guitar and rock and roll show or an all-Wicca show, if I understood the master correctly. That is one aspect of his wisdom would stand today without any rust.

Because rust never sleeps as the old NY song goes.

But heather's "career" has indeed sunsetted and without her ever gaining the confidence to put her own mark on it.

With the many dozens of paranormal programs these days identity is everything and had she established hers she could have been the hand-picked luminary of DMDN or possibly leveraged herself over to KGRA.

Now disgraced on even the tawdry LMN her actual "legacy" is that of a sobbing quitter with toxic narcissistic personality settings.

How sad, and how unemployable ultimately.

Maybe she can find a tech sugar daddy to rebirth her, but with a collapsing audience of vicarious hangers on numbering in the low teens the income stream would be next to nil.

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*nod to Bart Ell whose motto may be "Why settle for just one legacy?"

But by all means make it YOUR OWN legacy, not a clone legacy...

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2315 on: July 11, 2018, 02:51:36 PM »
She turned Art into a fetish. Registering a domain name called “artbelllegacy.com” is just weird.  And the ciagarette thing. And the printer paper thing.  Creepy.  When someone’s that obsessed, they’ll either burn out or go overboard.

Imagine if Art started his paranormal show by constantly making tearful references to John Nebel. Bell and Nebel were originals who didn’t cling to the past.  Heather was just the opposite.

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2316 on: July 11, 2018, 02:53:53 PM »
Heater has zero interest in the people who are paying money for her show. But it's worse than that - she also gives no fucks for the morons who run the network who gave her a home to play radio. She won't even give them notice when she isn't on. It's almost as if she's a mentally unhinged unprofessional.
George Snoory told a good story two nights ago when Mitch Horowitz was on late, talking about manifesting from your beliefs. Snoory said when he first was hired to be Art's backup and fill-in host, he would finish his own radio show in St. Louis at midnight, run to another studio, and be ready at 12:06 to do C2C. He prepared every night, and the engineers told him after the opening music played, if he heard Art's voice, he could go home. If he didn't hear Art's voice, the engineer would say in his headphones "Go!" and Snoory would start talking and do the show. He said he and they never knew from night to night whether Art would be on or not. He wasn't ragging Art, but talking about if you're given the gift of an opportunity to do your craft, you have to say "yes" to every opportunity, you have to show up and be ready with no excuses if you want to achieve your desired goal. Mitch agreed. They never referred directly to HW but man oh man they could have been speaking specifically about her! <g>
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2317 on: July 11, 2018, 02:54:16 PM »
The TL:DR Postmortem of the Kingdom of Nye.
A great read.

Insanity is crazy shit...

George Snoory told a good story two nights ago when Mitch Horowitz was on late, talking about manifesting from your beliefs.
Another great post.

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2318 on: July 11, 2018, 02:54:49 PM »
The biggest question that nobody's asking, and the one that is probably most important to me, is - if I subscribe to Kingdom of Nye now, am I still entered to win the signed guitar??
...or will she be "stringing" you along with that, too? <g> I wouldn't fret about it now...
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2319 on: July 11, 2018, 02:56:39 PM »
"Hopefully she's not barricaded in some hotel room in Las Vegas again". I just heard this, When the hell did this happen and why? Issues!

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2320 on: July 11, 2018, 02:56:43 PM »
I want to jump off a building and fly with

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2321 on: July 11, 2018, 02:58:26 PM »
Not taking up a huge space in your HD I expect ;)
Actually, though very few shows, I hear the files are huge because she wanted "excellent" (read that unnecessary) sound quality and she illegally included the bumper music in the downloads... so I'm told...
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2322 on: July 11, 2018, 03:00:01 PM »
This is really good.

Yes it was, and please allow me to piggyback your equally insightful reply to note as much- well done Dyna!

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I do want to add one point. The whole reason Art came back first on Sirius and then MITD was to attempt to screw over C2C, Premiere and Noory. I remember the relish with which he told the story during the first night back on Sirius. I also think for Art,  as has been mentioned before it was the run up to launching the show, the interaction, the planning. The reality of it was less pleasant for him. I think very much the same was true for Heater. She took on a show that was brought about to fuck over another show, when the person with the sour grapes didn’t want to do it anymore. When he was gone she just didn’t want to do it anymore and probably hadn’t for a while, but Keith was there keeping her in check before Art’s death. With Gramps gone Heather rebelled, believed her emperors new clothes following and was blindsided by the likes of Lasha telling her she was more than she was.

Heather's crab pot swiftlypulled her all the way back in and that is apparently that...

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Heater took on a show that had no future because it was only ever meant to destroy.

Yabutt...Art still turned out some wicked good work and for a time so did Hoaxie before they both succumbed to (literally in Art's case) geriatric fatigue and loss of interest.

Call it podcasting ED if you will, lol...
 
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I do want to also add that Keith has been clever, he’s turned it inside out and renewed it just enough, and Dave has pulled it far enough away from that to give it a freshness.

Probably a load of old bollocks, but thats my take on it.

Not at all, the arrival of Dave has been invigorating and also a welcome reset from what frankly was an over-long format proctored by a protege with clay feet.

The transition was a bitch, but the product is now solid and marketable.

I do feel sad for Heather, genuinely so.

Which I realize is like tossing fresh meat to haters like Sean.

If we lose sight of the human foibles and go all "Lord of the Flies" with hating her we diminish ourselves commensurately. She came in ill-mentored or prepared for what was to come and now sits stranded in a mobile home on a compound that allegedly shuns her. That's one harsh set of circumstances for someone who seemed so genuinely enamored of Art and his little universe in the desert.

As for for Vara - that pig has made his own stye and poking him in it is no sin, imho.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2323 on: July 11, 2018, 03:00:17 PM »
Reminder: MV on TheSpecSheet 8PM ET Tonight

I think it's still on, anyway.

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2324 on: July 11, 2018, 03:00:34 PM »
...or will she be "stringing" you along with that, too? <g> I wouldn't fret about it now...
Two thoughts...

Usually, the idea is that the subscriptions would have easily paid for the guitar.  So, in theory it would have been a good enough draw to pay for itself. And, of course residuals of monthly payments benefit her in the long run.

You may be familiar with the big grand prizes often associated with Charity support (in my area, it is to support the Ronald McDonald House). Here, a multimillion-dollar home is raffled off.  I just recently read an article where I found out that those homes are not given away...

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/real-estate/sd-fi-dream-house-raffle-no-prize-20170510-story.html