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« Reply #195 on: February 28, 2021, 09:31:35 PM »
Hey lame-o, you and ddd somehow think that hetero white Christian males have been relegated to 3rd class status. Sorry for your little monkey brains they have not. White males still have the same rights as anybody else. Shut up racists.

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« Reply #196 on: March 02, 2021, 03:10:20 PM »
After listening to Moon babble-on about his "research" that "confirmed" Dietrich's claims the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "preemptive strike" because a Soviet spy in the US Gov't informed a Soviet spy in Japan that the US planned to bomb Japan in the first week of December 1941, I am totally convinced Moon did not research any of it at all.

Moon even embellished Dietrich's lies by adding a few of his own, including US AAF Bomber Groups in the Pacific prior to December 7 1941 which did not exist!  And that in aftermath of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, rescue and salvage crews were ordered not to use cutting torches because they might detonate scuttle charges which had been previously placed in the hulls of vessels damaged or sunk in the attack.

What Dietrich and Moon intend to allege in the upcoming book, is there were no attempts to rescue trapped Sailors and Marines who were intended to die.  They even claim that on the night of Saturday, December 6th, 1941, a huge "going away" party was held in which the crews were "fattened-up" and prepared for sacrifice.

That all the ships at Pearl Harbor were WW1 "hulks" not intended for any further use and used as targets for the Japanese attack.  That the USS Utah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Utah_(BB-31) was a "Merchant ship" that had been modified with a false "carrier deck" and used as a "target" for US Navy planes. Though a small portion of his claim is true, anyone can look up the history of the USS Utah. The photos taken of USS Utah following the attack do not show a "false carrier deck". In fact, Utah had been refitted and re-armed and recently returned to Pearl Harbor as an anti-aircraft gun training platform and was moored off Ford Island before the attack.

The entire segment with Moon was sickening.  Moon is nothing more than an angry, vindictive fiction writer.  He has no intention of publishing anything close to a historical study.  He has not cited a single source relating to his latest embellishments of Dietrich's previous lies.

And the publishing of a years-old transcript of a Dietrich interview with the late Joyce Riley (whom Dietrich contacted on numerous occasions to establish) is a joke.  You can bet that Moon will make numerous "edits" or "revisions" to the original transcript.  My guess is that Moon has been reading my blog posts.

He should keep reading because I will soon have a surprise for them both!

Utah being painted as her 1941 overhaul nears completion.
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Utah capsizing during the Attack on Pearl Harbor
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« Reply #197 on: March 02, 2021, 03:31:55 PM »
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« Reply #199 on: March 02, 2021, 05:26:46 PM »
Background history:  No mention of Lauchlin Currie or a planned US bombing of Japan. Sorge was executed in 1944 (Dietrich seems to have forgotten his claim he was executed in November 1941, and even suggests Sorge may have been released or escaped.)





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« Reply #200 on: March 02, 2021, 05:47:28 PM »
Here is the account of the execution of Sorge mentioned at the end of the video: It is hardly what Dietrich described as being "quick and merciful".

November 7. 1944 Sagumo Prison

"Sorge being a European and an atheist, the chaplain had closed the door of the golden shrine before Sorge entered the antechamber, but now Sensho offered him tea and cakes and the opportunity to pray if he wished. Sorge refused both politely. He appeared completely at ease, very much master of himself. Yet just as the guards moved forward to escort him from the anteroom, Sorge turned to Ichijima and made one final request. “May I have a cigarette?” he asked. Ichijima was a compassionate man who had come to like and respect Sorge. But he was also a prison governor of integrity. He could not break regulations out of favoritism. “No,” he replied regretfully but firmly, “it is against the rules.”

Yuda broke in impulsively. “Oh, let him have a cigarette!” he urged. “I know it is against the rules, but it is his last wish. You can say you let him have some medicine at the last minute.” But Sorge’s request struck a wrong note with Ichijima. It was too flippant; it smacked of bravado; it jarred in this awesome hour. “No,” he repeated with quiet finality, “it is against the rules.” Sorge seemed neither disappointed nor resentful.25 Like Ozaki, he remained calm, dignified, a gentleman to the last. With sincerity he thanked Ichijima and the other prison officials for all they had done for him. Then with composure he walked into that bare, sunlit room that had already claimed Ozaki.

From death he feared nothing and expected nothing. Once again the functionaries left the anteroom and took their places in the death chamber.26 The attendants bound his arms and legs, then melted into the background. In that precise moment Sorge spoke clearly and distinctly. His words tolled in the taut silence like funeral bells: “Sakigun [The Red Army]!” “Kokusai Kyosanto [The International Communist Party]!” “Soviet Kyosanto [The Soviet Communist Party]!27 Man must worship as he must eat and drink and breathe. Let him deny there is a God, and he will invest with divinity some force within his understanding. So Sorge had set up his own trinity and called upon it in his last hour. Yet he spoke neither in German, the language of his boyhood, nor in the broken Russian of his adopted tongue; he spoke in Japanese, which always came haltingly to his lips.

Thus Sorge’s last words did not well up spontaneously; he had carefully selected them. He had to be sure that his audience understood, that they would report his words correctly, so that all would know he had died in the faith. A second time Sorge intoned his litany. The words, the dedication with which Sorge uttered them, his whole attitude impressed Yuda to his very soul. “There was no show-off in his manner,” said Yuda in retrospect. “Sorge was loyal and faithful to his cause to the end. He repeated his words like a person saying a prayer.” For the third time Sorge spoke his farewell salute to the world.* Then he snapped to attention.

Instinctively recognizing the sure moment, the executioners sprang the trap. It was exactly 10:20 A.M. Yuda’s eyes moved irresistibly to Sorge’s hands—much bigger than Ozaki’s, hands that quivered in the death struggle. Watching them, Yuda asked himself, “What are we accomplishing by executing these two men? Will this be a plus for us or a minus?” Ozaki’s body, submissive to fate, had released his spirit willingly. Sorge’s body had always kept his spirit earthbound; now it clung fiercely to life. Sorge took nineteen minutes to die".28

Source:

Prange, Gordon W.; Goldstein, Donald M.; Dillon, Katherine V.. Target Tokyo: The Story of the Sorge Spy Ring (p. 601). Open Road Media.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #201 on: March 03, 2021, 04:32:02 PM »
Lecture by the author of "Preemptive Strike" Alan Armstrong in 2016.  Armstrong is an "ambulance chaser" trial Lawyer for victims of air crashes!
https://preemptivestrikethebook.com/



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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #202 on: March 03, 2021, 05:05:41 PM »
"It's hard to get Americans to work" -brendan      "Yeah" -ddd

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #203 on: March 03, 2021, 05:13:11 PM »
Don't tell brendan what he meant to say ddd. He meant to call those Okinawans commies.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #204 on: March 03, 2021, 05:18:57 PM »
Pelayo:  I found more JB-355 documents today. Not one of them mentions B-17's or a planned attack on japan in the first week of December 1941.

And Peter Moon's bullshit claim about Vladivostok and US AAF bombers being based there is totally false.  Even the asshole author Armstrong mentions this in the video/lecture.  The whole theory is just that.  Speculation.  And totally unsubstantiated.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #205 on: March 03, 2021, 05:20:58 PM »
Pelayo:  I found more JB-355 documents today. Not one of them mentions B-17's or a planned attack on japan in the first week of December 1941.
Doesn't surprise me. ddd spews his history as if it was real, but it is only his fantasies.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #206 on: March 03, 2021, 05:25:05 PM »
The FOIA came in pretty handy to refute the fact that you ever were a Marine ddd. And you ARE anti-American ddd.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #207 on: March 03, 2021, 05:29:56 PM »
ddd wants to thank Danny Romero for all the skype sex.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #208 on: March 03, 2021, 05:32:43 PM »
Hmmmmm, chicken coated with crushed chicharrones? Interesting.

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« Reply #209 on: March 03, 2021, 05:34:50 PM »
Even Armstrong was confronted with specific questions before he suddenly ended his talk.  Armstrong bases his theory on a private meeting of 4-5 people in Henry Morganthau's house!  A bunch of rich American's speculating on a plan to bomb Japan from China - You can't send Lockheed Hudson bombers against Jap targets at night, with minimal bomb loads and range, and expect any sort of result.

Armstrong admits at the end of the lecture that even if the Japanese suspected we were planning something in 1940-41, they had no intelligence of any sort of bomber force being raised in China he does no think they would have attacked Pearl Harbor instead of US targets in China.