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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2385 on: July 08, 2021, 04:04:39 PM »
Vinny is so stupid (or so deceptive) that he attempts to read a book promo for "Andromeda" by David Childress, (which does not exist). When the book he refers to was actually published in April of this year.

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https://www.amazon.com/Haunebu-Secret-Files-Greatest-Time/dp/1948803313

Bostick botches the description and obviously did not take the time to research what Childress has presented.

Interestingly, the reviews reveal the true nature of the book as being a hastily published version of a previous book.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2386 on: July 08, 2021, 04:30:47 PM »
Dietrich claims that WW2 began on December 12, 1937 in Nanking, China "following an attack on a peace conference between the Japanese and Chinese which began on Dec 11. "

Dietrich claims that US Marines under the command of then Capt. Evans Fordyce Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evans_Carlson disguised themselves in black "coolie" Chinese clothes and attacked the Japanese, destroying the peace negotiations and resulting in the Japanese attacking and sinking the USS Panay (PR-5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_(PR-5) and the HMS Ladybird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ladybird_(1916) and HMS Bee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bee_(1915).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_incident

Dietrich further asserts that the action by Carlson (and by extension the United States and Great Britain) resulted in the Japanese attack on Nanking.

I will be refuting Dietrich's claim in an upcoming blog post, paying considerable attention to the whereabouts of Carlson at that time, and the nature and extent of his previous involvement in China.

Note:  This claim against Carlson by Dietrich is unprecedented despite over 80 years of meticulous historical documentation and accusations that Carlson was a communist.  I have not found any reference to Carlson being in command of a Marine unit in China or that the Japanese interrogated anyone who implicated Carlson in any attempt to organize any such attack on the Japanese.

In fact, the record shows it was the Japanese who had given the Chinese an ultimatum to surrender or face attack in no uncertain terms.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2387 on: July 08, 2021, 06:56:22 PM »
https://rkcolejr.blogspot.com/2021/07/dietrich-claims-that-ww2-began-on.html

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Dietrich claims that WW2 began on December 12, 1937 in Nanking, China "following an attack on a peace conference between the Japanese and Chinese which began on Dec 11. "

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Dietrich claims that US Marines under the command of then Capt. Evans Fordyce Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evans_Carlson

disguised themselves as "communist guerrillas" in black "coolie" Chinese clothes and attacked the Japanese, destroying the peace negotiations and resulting in the Japanese attacking and sinking the USS Panay (PR5)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_(PR-5)

and the HMS Ladybird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ladybird_(1916)

and HMS Bee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bee_(1915).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_incident


Dietrich further asserted that the "action" by Carlson (and by extension the United States and Great Britain) resulted in the Japanese attack and massacre of Nanking.

I will be refuting Dietrich's recent claim in an upcoming blog post, paying considerable attention to the history and whereabouts of Carlson at that time, and the nature and extent of his previous involvement in China.

Note:  This claim against Carlson and the USMC by Dietrich is unprecedented

Despite over 80 years of meticulous historical documentation and accusations that Carlson was a communist.  I have not found any reference to Carlson being in command of a surreptitious Marine Corps unit in China in 1937 or that the Japanese interrogated anyone who had participated in such action or had implicated Carlson in any attempt to organize such an attack on the Japanese.

In fact, the historical record shows it was the Japanese who had given the Chinese an ultimatum to surrender or face attack in no uncertain terms even as they continued to attack and invade.

Dietrich has also claimed the "Flying Tigers" (Ist AVG) were illegal and that the document "JB-355" is proof the US intended to bomb mainland Japan on December 8. 1941.

(A document he also claims to have incinerated in the basement of the Presidio Post Library in the 1980s as a teenage DoD Librarian which he read about in an article in Soldier of Fortune Magazine that later surfaced in  the National Archives and had brief national attention.)

A library that had no basement and no incinerator.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2388 on: July 08, 2021, 07:43:44 PM »
Good luck influencing Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump with your book and Vinny's "Press Release" BULLSHIT!

And Peter Moon is a mind-fucking member of Scientology who drags his experiences into his Chinese "Gong" lifestyle combined with his Romanian wife half his age.  After being rejected for his previous lies and exposure with the "Montauk Project" and "Philadelphia Experiment"

What a load of bullshit!  Now he is promoting himself and Douglas Dietrich! That Japan won the war and the Marines are communists  LOL  ::)



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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2389 on: July 08, 2021, 08:15:08 PM »
And the NEXT venture will be for the aging Vinny Barbarick to promote Dietrich against Aquino at the Presidio. LOL! 


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« Reply #2390 on: July 08, 2021, 08:17:33 PM »
Aquino roasting babies on spits and chewing on them in the tunnels of the Presidio ...as Swerdlow claimed.  A host of people claiming they were "possessed" and abused by Aquino.

Where are they now?  Dietrich is the only one who will continue to claim he had any involvement with Aquino.  Aquino is dead, but Dietrich will try.


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« Reply #2391 on: July 08, 2021, 08:32:25 PM »
I believe that Dietrich has constructed this lie since before 1988.  After being rejected by the USMC he returned to his aged parents and has lived in the same apartment ever since.  He simply waited for them to die, then assumed the apartment.  His sister, Joyce, is rarely mentioned.

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« Reply #2392 on: July 08, 2021, 08:41:27 PM »
He claims she joined a cult..of the Jehovah's Witness and then disappeared.

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« Reply #2393 on: July 08, 2021, 08:45:44 PM »
He claimed at times she was dead but never said how, when, or why.  Then claimed she was alive and possessed a copy of the "Vox Arca" with which she can destroy the world!


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« Reply #2394 on: July 08, 2021, 08:48:58 PM »
My research shows she was alive and owned property operating a business and paying taxes in commercial cleaning six miles from Douglas when he said she was dead!

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« Reply #2395 on: July 08, 2021, 08:53:58 PM »
Douglas Dietrich NEVER talks about his sister Joyce!

Douglas Dietrich never talks about his MOTHER either!  He did not bury his mother in Wolcott, NY with his father.  His mother was cremated and is in a San Fran garden.

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« Reply #2396 on: July 08, 2021, 09:00:20 PM »
And Dietrich has lived in the same apartment owned by the Chinese since 1986!

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« Reply #2397 on: July 08, 2021, 09:14:42 PM »
My research shows that the building was built in 1902 and has been consistently occupied by Chinese immigrants.  The house was renovated many times to hold 20 people..and had two stories.  The name Dietrich uses in association with his mother, is also a name of a person who is not related to him, nor related to his mother. 

I even found the records of this associated. https://rkcolejr.blogspot.com/2019/10/who-was-hideko-takebayashi.html

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2398 on: July 11, 2021, 05:13:37 PM »
Spent a great deal of time this week gathering primary source material and researching Evans F. Carlson and his observations in China.

Dietrich's claims are so pathetic and sloppily made that I doubt he ever makes them more publicly than on his own shit show.

Although obtaining primary sources on this subject was difficult, I was able to find several which refute Dietrich.  These include Carlson's own diaries and reports (available online from the University of Southern California http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/digital/collection/p15799coll12/id/1160 the University of Michigan and the USAF Air Command and Staff College, as well as books by WW2 Historians.

Probably the single most important is the research of Historian Evan Taylor presented to the Royal Asiatic Society of Shanghai in 2019.  Taken largely from Carlson's personal diaries (only recently published), but also includes the specific whereabouts of Carlson and his daily interactions with US and foreign diplomats and military personnel in Shanghai and Nanking during the Japanese invasion of 1937-38.

At this point, I can place Carlson in Nanking observing Thanksgiving at the US Embassy (where he met Claire Chennault) and 1,000 miles NW of Nanking on Christmas Day 1937, with the Chinese 8th Route Army.

Carlson (then a Captain) was not in command of a unit, but was an "International Observer" for the US Navy Department, who also reported privately to the President of the United States (FDR).

This is a copy of an original Intelligence Report submitted by Carlson on December 20, 1937 to the US Navy Captain John Stapler:

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2399 on: July 11, 2021, 05:32:03 PM »
Dietrich says this image was taken of him in a hospital "solarium suite" recovering from his assassination attempt last fall.

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Once again, the image is of Asian cosplayer Hakken  https://www.pinterest.ph/pin/499618152415956444/

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