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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2505 on: July 14, 2021, 06:55:19 PM »
A 1992 FBI report that investigated over 12,000 allegations of illegal activity by satanic groups in the U.S. concluded that there was no evidence of satanic cults operating in the country. Similar large-scale studies by Great Britain and the Netherlands came to the same conclusion.

Many of the “victims” of satanic abuse were, in fact, victims of unsafe psychological examination techniques that led to the development of False Memory Syndrome, a psychological disorder where patients develop memories that they believe to be of real events but are actually caused by suggestion from a therapist. Subsequent investigations into the majority of satanic abuse allegations found them to be hoaxes.

Jeffrey Victor, author of Satanic Panic: The Creation of a Contemporary Legend and a former professor of sociology at the State University of New York, says that the satanic hysteria was fueled by special interest groups that perpetuated the myth of satanic cults to advance their ideology or make money. These groups included fundamentalist Protestant sects, feminist organizations, seminar presenters for law enforcement, social workers, psychologists, shock journalists and talk shows, Victor says.

“There are no satanic cults as organizations, not even as minuscule groups,” Victor told Fox News.  https://www.foxnews.com/story/experts-no-proof-of-satanic-cults

Didn't some dude get ate by some weird cult while on spring break in Mexico around that time?   I have a vague memory of it.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2506 on: July 14, 2021, 06:55:49 PM »
Last show ddd had 4 or 5 thumbs down. The next day I checked and he had changed it so he only had 2 thumbs down.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2507 on: July 14, 2021, 06:57:27 PM »
Last show ddd had 4 or 5 thumbs down. The next day I checked and he had changed it so he only had 2 thumbs down.
I notice that on every shit show. 

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2508 on: July 14, 2021, 07:00:28 PM »
Didn't some dude get ate by some weird cult while on spring break in Mexico around that time?   I have a vague memory of it.
This dude?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mark_Kilroy

On 14 March 1989, University of Texas at Austin student Mark Kilroy was kidnapped in Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico while vacationing during spring break. He was taken by his abductors to a ranch where he was tortured and sodomized for hours before being murdered in a human sacrifice ritual. Kilroy was killed with a machete blow and then had his brain removed and boiled in a pot. His killers then inserted a wire through his spinal column, amputated his legs at the knees, and buried him at the ranch along with 14 other people who had been killed there before him. Adolfo Constanzo, the leader of the cult, told his followers that human sacrifice granted them immunity from law enforcement for their drug smuggling operations. The killing drew worldwide media attention and initiated an international police manhunt because of the unusual circumstances of the crime.

Again, not a "Satanic Cult"

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2509 on: July 14, 2021, 07:08:55 PM »
Digging up the already debunked "Satanic Panic" and the Presidio is going to be a huge failure...and I hope the failure of this first book will be realized in the next few months if credentialed historians in the USA and Japan get word of it.

Of course, Vinny retains "plausible deniability" by publishing the books as "FICTION" - which he clearly presents on the Copyright page in the recent book!

I am sure that Tucker Carlson and Don Trump, Jr. took notice of that!

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2510 on: July 14, 2021, 07:09:48 PM »
Uhhhhh, no ddd, you aren't playing a pivotal role in exposing the US military, you are a propagandist drawing away the attention from the depredations of radical muslim organizations. Yeah, the world would be great for the muslims if the US military was destroyed.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2511 on: July 14, 2021, 07:10:47 PM »
This dude?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mark_Kilroy

On 14 March 1989, University of Texas at Austin student Mark Kilroy was kidnapped in Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico while vacationing during spring break. He was taken by his abductors to a ranch where he was tortured and sodomized for hours before being murdered in a human sacrifice ritual. Kilroy was killed with a machete blow and then had his brain removed and boiled in a pot. His killers then inserted a wire through his spinal column, amputated his legs at the knees, and buried him at the ranch along with 14 other people who had been killed there before him. Adolfo Constanzo, the leader of the cult, told his followers that human sacrifice granted them immunity from law enforcement for their drug smuggling operations. The killing drew worldwide media attention and initiated an international police manhunt because of the unusual circumstances of the crime.

Again, not a "Satanic Cult"

That's the dude.  Ate by a cult. Bleech.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2512 on: July 14, 2021, 07:14:04 PM »
moonpie says ddd deserves the congressional medal of freedom.

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2513 on: July 14, 2021, 07:18:45 PM »
Bullshit hype article from 1988:  http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/aquino01.htm


Re: Subject #1 - Michael Aquino's response

From: via Outpost of Freedom

Date: 8/7/99

Time: 12:48:55 PM

I received the following from Mr. Aquino, this morning. In another post, he explained that he has tired of defending himself for 12 years, and might not actively participate in the discussion.

Subject: Most Current Presidio Statement Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:09:25 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected]

THE 1986-7 PRESIDIO "SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE" EVENTS

Following the publication of the "recovered memories of Satanic ritual abuse" book _Michelle Remembers_ in 1980, the United States and other Anglo-American countries went through a decade of "SRA" scares and witch-hunts. After the 1984 McMartin Preschool became internationally publicized in one such scare, day-care facilities generally became targets of "SRA" witch- hunt instigators.

The epidemic extended to U.S. military services as well, including 15 U.S. Army day-care centers and elementary schools by 1987. In late 1986 it was the turn of the Presidio of San Francisco.

On 9/28/86 the _San Francisco Examiner_ began a series of 8 front-page stories sensationalizing the witch-hunts. Approximately a month later one set of Presidio parents claimed that their son might have been anally raped by one of the day-care teachers, Gary Hambright, and the scare was off and running, with scores of children being "abuse-diagnosed" by a "play-therapist" despite not a single published confirmation of actual physical harm to any child. Hambright denied any "abusing" whatever, and all of the other teachers and staff supported him.

As in other witch-hunts it made no difference: Over the next year Hambright was suspended, indicted, charges dropped, reindicted, charges redropped amidst a massive media frenzy. Parents rushed to file over $84 million in claims, as was also routine in such witch-hunts. [The previous year a similar, highly-publicized witch-hunt at West Point had resulted in $110 million claims.]

Left out of the Presidio claims bonanza were Christian chaplain Larry Adams-Thompson and his wife Michele, who had never reported their daughter Kinsey Almond for any physical or psychological symptoms during the entire time she had been under Hambright's supervision at the day-care center (9/1-10/31/86). In their original 1/87 FBI interviews both A-Ts were specific about that date- window, because Almond turned 3 on 9/1/86 and, as confirmed by the Presidio Director of Personnel & Community Affairs, Hambright supervised only children age 3 and older.

Despite Almond's untouched state [on 3/12/87 Presidio doctors examined her and pronounced her a virgin free from any physical signs of abuse], the A-Ts placed her in an intensive 8-month program of "play-therapy". The same "therapist" who pronounced the scores of other children "abused" soon pronounced Almond "abused" as well.

The A-Ts, however, were not content with just accusing Hambright. In 6/87 Michele introduced "SRA" themes and insinuations about me - who had been a topic of curiosity and gossip as a famous Satanist officer throughout my 1981-86 assignment to the Presidio Headquarters - to the "therapist". Then on 8/13/87 the A-Ts saw my wife Lilith and myself at the Presidio post exchange and went running to the witch-hunt investigators alleging that Almond had accused us of kidnapping and raping her while she was under Hambright's supervision. [They then climbed on board the financial bandwagon with a $3 million claim of their own based on their faked story.] This quickly resulted in an even more sensationalistic international media storm.

The San Francisco Police investigated, verified that Lilith and I had been 3,000 miles away in Washington, D.C. - where I was on duty every single day Almond was at the daycare center 9/1-10/31/86 - and closed the case with no charges accordingly.

In October 1988, however, I appeared as a panelist on a Geraldo Rivera Halloween special. Rivera was trying to aggravate and escalate the "SRA" witchhunt mania, and I was speaking out against it. The broadcast came to the attention of Senator Jesse Helms, who became enraged that a Lt.Colonel in the Army should dare to hold a "Satanic" religion. As Freedom of Information Act filings later revealed, Helms then secretly contacted his close personal friend, Secretary of the Army John Marsh, and insisted that Marsh devise some way to destroy my career.

As my 20-year military record was without blemish [In 1987 I was the sole USAR officer in the nation selected to attend the prestigious National Defense University/ICAF], the only way to act on Helms' demand was to try to revive the chaplain's scheme to threaten Lilith and myself, apparently expecting that with sufficient intimidation by the Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) I would resign and "disappear". [It didn't work.]

The CID first (Jan 89) illegally forced a fulltime active duty board to deny me a new fulltime contract on expiration of my current one in 9/90. Six months later, after a sham "reinvestigation", it issued a report "titling" Lilith and myself for the chaplain's allegations. ["Titling" is a statement by the CID that it thinks a crime occurred.] Nevertheless the report itself contained not a single item of "evidence" other than the A-Ts' allegations that any crime whatever had occurred - and either suppressed or ignored abundant evidence of our innocence and the A-Ts' violations.

[For example, the CID tried to get around our 3,000-miles-away proof of innocence by finding out when we *had* previously been in San Francisco - several months before the 9-10/86 "window" - and then (in 1989) simply revising the allegation to *that* date! When the CID then learned that that this manufactured redate made the A-Ts' alleged location physically impossible, it then (in 1991) proceeded to invent a *new* location, once again on no grounds except its 1991 predicament. Both the manufactured "redating" and "relocating" necessarily made numerous additional elements of the chaplain's original fabrication impossible as well - inconvenient complications that the CID addressed by simply ignoring them.]

What this bizarre exercise in "manufactured evidence" *did* demonstrate was the strength of the political agenda predetermining the CID's "reinvestigation" from the outset. [For instance, the CID's illegal fixing of the fulltime- duty board took place at the *beginning* of its "reinvestigation" - half a year before it was supposedly able to perform the evaluation of that investigation.] Clearly an expose' that we had in fact been the innocent victims of a cold-blooded, calculated scheme to defraud the government - by a *Christian chaplain* - was politically out of the question from the beginning.

My repeated demands that those responsible for the CID action, as well as the chaplain, be court-martialed for false official statements, manufacture of evidence, obstruction of justice, misprision of serious offense, attempted $3 million defrauding of the government, and several other UCMJ and federal law violations, were similarly - and equally illegally - suppressed. The CID's response was to say that I was "swearing falsely" to these facts. Nevertheless it could not - and did not - produce even a single example of *any* such "factual falsehood" in the documents I filed and swore to under penalty of perjury. [Nor, of course, was I ever charged with making even a single "false statement".]

By administrative complaint process in 1990 we were able to have the "SRA titling" of Lilith removed. The CID refused to remove mine - although the A-Ts had always alleged we "did the SRA together" - because to do so would have exploded the entire CID operation and opened a trail of serious law violations leading to Helms and Secretary of the Army Marsh.

I next filed suit in federal court in 1990 to have the rest of the CID report exposed and retracted. The U.S. Privacy Act would have forced a comparison of every CID statement in the report with the actual facts (a _de novo_ judicial review). For this reason the CID argued intensely that its reports should be immune from _de novo_ review.

The case was filed as a Motion for Summary Judgment. There was no jury or in-court testimony. We assumed that the CID's legal violations were so flagrant, obvious, and numerous that a simple ruling by the judge would suffice.

To our surprise the judge ruled that all CID reports were indeed exempt from _de novo_ judicial review, and that the CID could conclude whatever it wished from its report *as written*.

We appealed, and the appeals court upheld the district judge's decision to exempt CID reports from the Privacy Act. Again in its decision, the appeals court recited as "facts" excerpts from the very CID document whose falsehoods were the *issue* of the entire lawsuit.

Following the lawsuit I detailed and documented the CID lawyer's extensive lies in briefs & oral argument to the Army Inspector General, Judge Advocate General, and finally the Army Chief of Staff.

None of my facts or documents was disputed or refuted, but neither was any action taken to courtmartial those responsible. This effectively exhausted my options.

The bottom line was that on one hand the politically- driven "black bag job" to intimidate me out of the Army had failed, and indeed could not withstand many other decent and honorable offices and officials in the same Army who, as they learned about the scheme, refused to aid, abet, or tolerate it. [This included every single superior officer in my own chain of command throughout all the years of the initial attack against us and the subsequent investigations.]

On the other hand we came to realize that it was politically out of the question that a Christian chaplain be courtmartialed for crimes committed against a "Satanist" and his wife, or that trails of illegal actions leading to powerful national political figures would be followed. And we also learned that the courts were also not about to force exposure such a widespread and potentially politically-explosive cover-up as this one.

On the expiration of my fulltime active duty contract in 1990, I continued as a parttime active USAR officer for the next four years, assigned to Headquarters US Space Command with an above-Top Secret clearance. I decided to retire in 1994, and at that time received the Meritorious Service Medal from the [new] Secretary of the Army, covering 1984-1994. I remain today in the Army as a Lt.Colonel, USAR-Retired.

Most people will find it sufficient, I think, that Lilith and I were never charged with anything after two long investigations (SFPD/FBI, CID), that I retained my TS+ clearance, and that I retired honorably in 1994. My Officer Efficiency Reports from the time of the attack on us to my 1994 retirement also continued to give me the highest possible evaluations in all categories.

My military service and present Army-Retired status are public record and can be independently verified by anyone wishing to take the trouble.

Nor is the 1990 lawsuit in any sense a "skeleton in my closet". A review of my attorney's district & appeals briefs & orals will glaringly expose what was actually taking place: a court coverup of blatant Senatorial/SecArmy/CID misconduct - and simultaneous brushing-aside of numerous illegal actions against an Army officer and his wife of a "politically incorrect" religion.

Michael A. Aquino, Ph.D. Lt.Colonel, USAR-Ret.

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« Reply #2514 on: July 14, 2021, 07:24:11 PM »
NO ONE at the time:  Investigators, witnesses, journalists - NO ONE mentioned any involvement of Douglas Dietrich.  And his enlistment in the DEP-USMC in October 1986 PROVES IT!

Dietrich went to bootcamp on October 19, 1987 and got tossed in January 1988.  If you check those dates against what was going on with the Satanic Panic and the Presidio, nothing matches up.  In fact, Dietrich claims he returned to the Presidio Post Library as a DoD Librarian "in 1991" after he was "Dishonably Discharged" LOL!

And it is to Dietrich's advantage that most everyone involved is DEAD and cannot offer a refutation or defend themselves.

Just look up the court record of Gary Hambright's trial!  (Where he was acquitted!) Dietrich is not mentioned as a witness or having submitted a sworn statement against Hambright.  Yet Dietrich claims he reported Hambright to Law Enforcement, resulting in his arrest.  BULLSHIT!

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2515 on: July 14, 2021, 07:39:10 PM »
Like Hillary Clinton, I don't think ddd knows how to tell the truth. From little lies like his dad was a Chief Petty Officer, to the fact he brought down the Presidio, to the claim he is the son of Adolph Hitler. One lie after another.

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« Reply #2516 on: July 14, 2021, 07:48:48 PM »
So I have contacted historian Evan Taylor who has written extensively on the Chinese in WW2 and is also a member of the Royal Asiatic Society of Shanghai.  Taylor has published the diaries of Evans F. Carlson and has intimate details of his contacts with the foreign diplomats, Chinese, British and American from 1937-38.

Taylor strongly refutes Dietrich's claim that Carlson was operating surreptitiously as a Marine commanding a unit of Marines disguised and operating with the Communist insurgency prior to the Battle of Shanghai and the subsequent attack on Nanking. 

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Re: Refuting Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #2517 on: July 14, 2021, 07:58:13 PM »
Not sure how you'd disguise an American to be a chinese communist. visitors can't see pics , please register or login

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« Reply #2518 on: July 14, 2021, 07:58:55 PM »
Taylor believes that until November (Thanksgiving) of 1937, Carlson had observed the invasion of Shanghai from the US Embassy, then traveled to Nanking where he worked on his diary during the day and met diplomats and others such as Claire Chennault and others while obtaining permission to travel to northern China with 8th Route Army.

He spent Thanksgiving in Nanking (1937) and then headed North by boat and train, reaching the 8th Route Army to spend Christmas.  Carlson traveled alone with only basic supplies he purchased from the Chinese.  Dietrich is a total freakshow fake.

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« Reply #2519 on: July 14, 2021, 08:00:29 PM »
Not sure how you'd disguise an American to be a chinese communist.
Dietrich claims he dressed his men in black "coolie" uniforms (like the VC of Vietnam).  But Chinese "coolies" did not dress that way....AT ALL!

The Japanese do not confirm his claim, nor do the Chinese...and a long list of dignitaries, diplomats and Allied military officers etc, saw Carlson on a daily basis for months prior to his heading north.  As they relocated themselves while gathering intelligence on the Japanese invasion.