Refuting Douglas Dietrich

[Gunner65]

And of course, Vinny always circles back to L Ron Hubbard.  Vinny is still a Scientologist.

[Gunner65]

I first heard about Hubbard when I was in HS working part-time in a bookstore run by the Nazarene Church in KCMO.  One of the first things the manager (a former US Marine) explained to me was what the book Dianetics was about and why it was not being sold.  Privately, I was informed that the Church of Scientology was a quasi-religious cult and the book violated the doctrine of most denominations (1982-84). 

[Pelayo]

Yeah, ddd and his balloon bombs. On more than one occasion, ddd has averred that Hirohito sent balloon bombs that destroyed the "Hanford dam." In the first place it is idiotic to think that balloon bombs can be guided and secondly there is no Hanford dam. There are a whole series of dams on the Columbia river, but no Hanford dam. There is an area called the Hanford Reach, in which exists the Hanford Nuclear reservation, but no Hanford dam. ddd is full of shit. I have driven hundreds of times along the western boundary of Hanford.

[Gunner65]

I like to believe that my work refuting Dietrich and Moon has had a serious impact on them.  I believe it has and that they are working from a lower level.  I think they have now become so obscure that nothing they produce is likely to create any substantial income for them.  I had hoped they would have been refuted by historians and others more qualified than myself, but It seems my efforts have been enough to discredit them.

[Gunner65]

What I am working on now is to try and investigate whether Vinny was actually in Scientology at the level he claims.  This is a real challenge.  But Scientology is not the "fortress" it once was.  Many are now exposing it and I am attempting to obtain info about his service in the Sea Org etc.

These things take time.  And I am not optimistic about dealing with egotistical asshole nutjobs who are much like Vinny.

[Pelayo]

I like to believe that my work refuting Dietrich and Moon has had a serious impact on them.  I believe it has and that they are working from a lower level.  I think they have now become so obscure that nothing they produce is likely to create any substantial income for them.  I had hoped they would have been refuted by historians and others more qualified than myself, but It seems my efforts have been enough to discredit them.

Actually, i believe ddd and moonpie are so clownish, real historians don't even give them a second thought. The reason I fight against ddd is when he tries to gin up a racist civil war. I got news for ddd and his insane followers, if you ever fuck around, you'll quickly find out what happens. Loser day dreamers will quickly be defeated by competent combatants. That's how it will end.

[Gunner65]

I'd rather not imagine or anticipate that.  People like Dietrich and Barbarick are coincidental to the bigger picture.  Once they are exposed further it will be obvious what they are. I doubt they will have any influence whatsoever. (Not that they had any otherwise).

[Gunner65]

Dietrich briefly mentions his own paternal grandmother but did not know how she died!  He associated her death with a lung illness.  (She died in 1963 before he was born and his grandfather moved to Florida).

[Pelayo]

I'd rather not imagine or anticipate that.  People like Dietrich and Barbarick are coincidental to the bigger picture.  Once they are exposed further it will be obvious what they are. I doubt they will have any influence whatsoever. (Not that they had any otherwise).

You're right, I'm not saying ddd has any influence over the general population, his influence is over a fringe, disaffected segment of losers.

[Gunner65]

It's obvious.  We have been here fairly consistently, and have not seen anyone else participate.  Not even a stray troll for years!

12 guests..

[Pelayo]

Fucking moonpie is like a broken record. Touch football, chi gong, L Ron Hubbard blah blah blah.

[Pelayo]

It's obvious.  We have been here fairly consistently, and have not seen anyone else participate.  Not even a stray troll for years!

12 guests..

That's because we're right and ddd can't send his trolls to refute us because they'd lose.

[Gunner65]

There was a long time years ago that I was engaged in "full battle" with Dietrich.  But he fights "dirty" via proxy.  Those people are gone.  And I have kept my word to protect some who "defected". 

I am touching my sources in Scientology about Vinny and let's see what happens. 

[Gunner65]

I am still waiting for the NARA to respond to my FOIA about Miguel Valles.  The NARA has become totally fucked!  The Obama admin started it, then the Biden admin shut it down.  And CONTINUES to keep it shut down!

[Gunner65]

Vinny is a trained mind-fucker.  He has two ex-wives (one he never mentions) and I am certain he is lying about it.  He never escaped it.  He never mentions his years in Florida after 1983!  Before he went to Long Island and Montauk!

I bet his ex-wife is still in Scientology.