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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2355 on: July 11, 2018, 04:04:58 PM »
screenshots for those of us banned from there please? Would be highly appreciated

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2356 on: July 11, 2018, 04:05:37 PM »
PaperBoy, is that you?  If so, one of the most tragic losses was when MV changed the attachment setting and all of your Jorch's Eye Pad cartoons were gone.  All that work, all those years, all those posts.  That was one of my top 3 favorite threads  :'( .  Gandalf had saved all the Jorch's Eye Pad posts and had them in a slide show on his site, but before I got around to copying it, his site was gone too.


Did your check the wayback machine for gandalf’s site to see if it was archived?
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2357 on: July 11, 2018, 04:06:31 PM »
Please be more discrete when alluding to any gravity assist.  Thank you.

Haha yeah that's your turf!  You gotta patent that move buddy.

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2358 on: July 11, 2018, 04:07:28 PM »
She did, she said on one of her "shows" that she couldn't look at Art's lifeless body, and she couldn't predict how she would act, and didn't want it to be all about her. But you would have had to hear the tone of voice to know how totally self-centered and inauthentic and dramatic "poor me, it's all about me" she sounded.

I dispute that you can hear or read anything "dramatic" into the "tone " of her voice and I have heard plenty of plaintive sobbing and grief that to my ears sounded "authentic" enough, fwiw.

She clearly has tried to buck up and be strong at times and she clearly has failed.

At least be compassionate enough to give her that much, 'k?

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2359 on: July 11, 2018, 04:07:36 PM »
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it." -- Chinese proverb

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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2360 on: July 11, 2018, 04:08:28 PM »

Did your check the wayback machine for gandalf’s site to see if it was archived?

I tried the wayback for bellgab to find some other stuff, and it seems like after the name change from coastgab->bellgab the archiving was blocked.  So the best I could find was like from 2013 and even there alot of it is missing. 

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2361 on: July 11, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »
They are violating Facebook's TOS, at least.  Don't they delete accounts when that happens?
If they are reported... but you can't report it from a laptop, and I don't ever ever ever log in to FB from my phone. I hope someone does report it!
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2362 on: July 11, 2018, 04:10:14 PM »
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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2363 on: July 11, 2018, 04:11:58 PM »
I dispute that you can hear or read anything "dramatic" into the "tone " of her voice and I have heard plenty of plaintive sobbing and grief that to my ears sounded "authentic" enough, fwiw.

She clearly has tried to buck up and be strong at times and she clearly has failed.

At least be compassionate enough to give her that much, 'k?

 ???
I actually have a lot of compassion for her and believe she is really suffering. I also think most of her suffering is self-created, and she shows many characteristics of very narcissistic people, who actually don't know how to really be authentic. I'm not slamming her here, just stating what I see from my experience in this area.
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Re: The Kingdom of Nye with Heather Wade
« Reply #2364 on: July 11, 2018, 04:12:02 PM »
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He didn't seem to appreciate Gabbers on his lawn.
;D That was one of mine. It had to be edited from the CNN interview and took longer than it should have, because it was my first try at that.  It was in honor of MV offering to mow Art's lawn...in exchange for the original fax machine, was it?

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2365 on: July 11, 2018, 04:13:36 PM »
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2366 on: July 11, 2018, 04:17:35 PM »
We spoke for quite a while yesterday. She needs time away. Only she can know how long.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2367 on: July 11, 2018, 04:18:34 PM »
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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2368 on: July 11, 2018, 04:18:49 PM »
We spoke for quite a while yesterday. She needs time away. Only she can know how long.

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Re: The Kingdom of Drama without Heather Wade
« Reply #2369 on: July 11, 2018, 04:19:12 PM »
The TL:DR Postmortem of the Kingdom of Nye.

Today I am sad, but its not for the reasons one might think. Its the end of an era throughout the paranormal "radio" world and I think it was brought on by the rot or the dark side in social media and a series of mistakes. The mechanics of putting on a quality show is almost trivial and easy now in comparison to not fomenting a cult-like audience and getting glued to questionable business associates in the wilderness.  Watching the Heather Wade story vicariously can teach any prospective broadcaster or podcaster a lot of nuanced lessons. Its the end of the semester.

    HW's default solution to interpret "What Would Art Do?" did not work. Art was successful for his era. He was an Analog Man that adopted the digital. While could still blow the doors off his competition qualitatively, all his best efforts were going to fall short of doing the 500-station affiliate thing all over again.  Likely Art could have never really defeated him, just dented him in 2016 if he had stayed on.  George Noory is only "successful" because he was in the right place at the right time and he has the backing of the carcass of Art's media machine hitched to Big Media. A 45-year-old Nighthawk today would need to pursue a different route.

     Painted rocks and trinkets? That ain't workin'. The trend of unboxing videos don't translate to radio, because video is not radio. One member of the audience would be enjoying the show while the others would be dragged along. The same wisdom of not having psychics doing readings for callers would apply.

    Heather's attachment to all things Art contributed to both her brief spotlight in fame and her radio demise. He was an eternal flame catalyst, a  protective egrigore and 50-pound rusty anchor all at once.
 
   To separate any feeling we have about Art's legacy lets point out another star in a different field. Lets bring out Elvis*. We could have an Elvis impersonator that is musically just as talented and sings clearer than the King and might even be a tad more handsome. Such an individual with that shtick may be able to have an upper-middle class, maybe even wealthy lifestyle in Vegas, but he is not going to sell 610 million records (mp3s now) or have a Graceland. He could bring a few hundred to several thousand entertainment, but he is not going to start a new legacy, only keep alive the old one. If said impersonator just dropped the act and tried to make it on singing talent and looks alone, he would probably not make it unless he was lucky without the right connections, but the music industry is its own trap these days.

     Heather was molding herself (consciously or not)  to be a female Art impersonator with the aid of the legacy himself! She was in fact both part paranormal host and voice actress. She was trying to allow just enough of her own personality through to keep a plausible deniability with the oft-peppered phrase "I am not Art." However, the coincidences were enough to make most of  Art's fans uncomfortable, even with his blessing. "Its not about me" was true in that it wasn't about her. It was about her created personae's interpretation of Art in front of "all of you out there." Art's attitude, politics, and world schema were all projected to keep the audience. What Heather really believed is just a guess. If she had a belief that differed from what she thought his belief was, we would never hear it.

    Did we ever really know who Heather was outside of the shadows and reflections that mirrored Art's world? These areas were never explored.  There was of course the Wicca aspect (which fit in neatly with the show and the Paglini legacy), the NDE, the ghoul and the UFO sighting - but these were all tied to show content and still parallels to Art's shadow person and Big Black Delta UFO.

   What we knew about Heather as a person was always very sparse and filled with ambiguity. It was filler for the moment. We know she could play guitar, and loved heavy metal such as Danzig. She claimed to have rebuilt muscle cars. She worked at an automotive dealership and a theater. There was also mention that she worked with the developmentally disabled.

    She would have done better to play her favorite heavy metal bumpers and brought on more conversations about spell craft in the voice she had on the Gabcast. A week after Art's passing she could have simply quietly resigned from DMDN and made her own network without any drama if she wanted to do things her way. Art would have blessed a total change in course if she made a guitar and rock and roll show or an all-Wicca show, if I understood the master correctly. That is one aspect of his wisdom would stand today without any rust.

*nod to Bart Ell whose motto may be "Why settle for just one legacy?"
This has been one of the more interesting points of view that I have read so far.  That last paragraph especially rings true as that never happened.  Had it happened, Heather would have been better off, but the allure of being around and working with Art was too great to ignore.  I work with her at that dealership, if that is the same one, and she was an interesting character to all the mechanics who were staring at her ass along with trying to figure her out.  It was a conversation about Art that got us talking, the mear mention of his name got her all excited as Art was not know to anyone else there.  The brief time that I spent in Heather work was a roller coaster of learning who she was and she was fun to hang out with.  One thing led to another and we went our sperate ways and she would ignore me like the plague even tho it was a small building.  I completely see why people do not like her as she uses people like Kleenex when she is done with them, which could be at any point.  My guess is that unless Art left her a way to sustain herself, she will drift on to the next thing in her life, as she constantly does, and become a footnote somewhere.  Also, the drama she has created does make for a great read, I will miss that if she does not come back.