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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2400 on: September 02, 2021, 03:39:56 PM »
Media Melts Down After Joe Rogan Says He Recovered From Covid in 3 Days After Taking Ivermectin, Z-Pak

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/media-melts-joe-rogan-says-recovered-covid-3-days-taking-ivermectin-z-pak-video/

So nobody thinks this sounds like absolute bullshit? (which BTW the anti-vax would eat spoons full if a internet doctor told them so) Let's do some critical thinking, but he was a believer that if you are  healthy, that Covid is no big deal, much like the flu. So why did he go online and get every medicine possible for something that's no more dangerous than the flu? How does that make sense?

I've had the common cold, I might grab some chicken-noodle soup, maybe some oranges and a bottle of V8 juice and hunker down for three days. What I don't do is run online and look for a handful of miracle drugs for something I know my body will fight off pretty well.

So you don't want to take a two year study of vaccine that's been in circulation for about year that shown to help the virus. But instead you take a list of meds that hasn't really been tested against Covid to any great extent like monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin, Z-pak, prednisone, oh yeah and shove IV vitamin drip in your vein. He really "showed" the media, totally owned those doctors and intellectuals !!! You don't think those things he listed doesn't have side effects?

True story about prednisone. I know somebody who got bells palsy, doctor prescribed him a high dose of prednisone to treat it, few days later it started giving him internal stomach bleeding, had to be rushed to ER & emergency surgery, it got very dicey for him. Just personally haven't experienced anyone who had really bad reaction to the covid vaccine (not including a sore arm or a day of fatigue), but I did know somebody who had a real bad reaction to one of these "alternatives" . Every medicine you take can have a bad side effect, jeeze just watch one of their commercials or instructions sheet that come with  your meds.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2401 on: September 02, 2021, 03:48:23 PM »
How dare you expect a rational response to something Wuhan related.
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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2402 on: September 03, 2021, 01:07:22 PM »
De La Hoya was gonna fight? He's got to be 50 be now.

https://twitter.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/1433857153433944069

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2403 on: September 03, 2021, 03:18:18 PM »
De La Hoya was gonna fight? He's got to be 50 be now.

https://twitter.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/1433857153433944069

In a backwards kind of way this bodes well for people who didn't want to take the mystery juice but had to for whatever reason.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2404 on: September 03, 2021, 03:27:25 PM »
How dare you expect a rational response to something Wuhan related.
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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2405 on: September 03, 2021, 04:49:03 PM »
So nobody thinks this sounds like absolute bullshit? (which BTW the anti-vax would eat spoons full if a internet doctor told them so) Let's do some critical thinking, but he was a believer that if you are  healthy, that Covid is no big deal, much like the flu. So why did he go online and get every medicine possible for something that's no more dangerous than the flu? How does that make sense?

I've had the common cold, I might grab some chicken-noodle soup, maybe some oranges and a bottle of V8 juice and hunker down for three days. What I don't do is run online and look for a handful of miracle drugs for something I know my body will fight off pretty well.

So you don't want to take a two year study of vaccine that's been in circulation for about year that shown to help the virus. But instead you take a list of meds that hasn't really been tested against Covid to any great extent like monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin, Z-pak, prednisone, oh yeah and shove IV vitamin drip in your vein. He really "showed" the media, totally owned those doctors and intellectuals !!! You don't think those things he listed doesn't have side effects?

True story about prednisone. I know somebody who got bells palsy, doctor prescribed him a high dose of prednisone to treat it, few days later it started giving him internal stomach bleeding, had to be rushed to ER & emergency surgery, it got very dicey for him. Just personally haven't experienced anyone who had really bad reaction to the covid vaccine (not including a sore arm or a day of fatigue), but I did know somebody who had a real bad reaction to one of these "alternatives" . Every medicine you take can have a bad side effect, jeeze just watch one of their commercials or instructions sheet that come with  your meds.

Main concerns over the “vaccine”.
- vaccine definition - provides immunity. None of the so-called vaccines for covid provide immunity. Nor do they prevent the spread. Nor do they prevent people from getting it. Nor do they prevent people from dying from it.

- mRNA technology - totally untested, 1 year on the market. Possibly alters dna. No one has any idea what the long term effects will be.

- normal vaccines take 5-10 years of rigorous testing to be FDA approved. And even then they can still be pulled because they kill people. Vioxx killed 60k people after being FDA approved.

- the survival rate of covid is >99.97% for people under age 54. And that’s going by CDC death numbers which no one argues have been greatly inflated. Death with covid vs dead the from covid.

- the vitamin regiment Rogan took is well tested and sworn by from 1000s of doctors, scientists, and patients from around the world.

- ivermectin has now been approved for treatment of covid by several countries including Japan and the US who’s giving it to refugees.

- Ivermectin like hydroxychloroquin have been used for decades and are FDA approved. So taking the approved dose is not going to kill you no matter how many horses have also taken it.

- on the label of every mask it clearly states - no medical benefits

- death rate from covid is now the lowest it’s been. Rivaling that of the flu.

No ones stopping you from getting getting all 3 “vaccines” if that’s what you choose. No ones stopping you from wearing 27 masks if that’s what you choose. You should ask yourself, why am I so angry? What am I being constantly spoon fed to make me lose empathy for people with different beliefs? Why has it come to this. See that’s called critical thinking.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2406 on: September 03, 2021, 05:06:43 PM »
Main concerns over the “vaccine”.
- vaccine definition - provides immunity. None of the so-called vaccines for covid provide immunity. Nor do they prevent the spread. Nor do they prevent people from getting it. Nor do they prevent people from dying from it.

- mRNA technology - totally untested, 1 year on the market. Possibly alters dna. No one has any idea what the long term effects will be.

- normal vaccines take 5-10 years of rigorous testing to be FDA approved. And even then they can still be pulled because they kill people. Vioxx killed 60k people after being FDA approved.

- the survival rate of covid is >99.97% for people under age 54. And that’s going by CDC death numbers which no one argues have been greatly inflated. Death with covid vs dead the from covid.

- the vitamin regiment Rogan took is well tested and sworn by from 1000s of doctors, scientists, and patients from around the world.

- ivermectin has now been approved for treatment of covid by several countries including Japan and the US who’s giving it to refugees.

- Ivermectin like hydroxychloroquin have been used for decades and are FDA approved. So taking the approved dose is not going to kill you no matter how many horses have also taken it.

- on the label of every mask it clearly states - no medical benefits

- death rate from covid is now the lowest it’s been. Rivaling that of the flu.

No ones stopping you from getting getting all 3 “vaccines” if that’s what you choose. No ones stopping you from wearing 27 masks if that’s what you choose. You should ask yourself, why am I so angry? What am I being constantly spoon fed to make me lose empathy for people with different beliefs? Why has it come to this. See that’s called critical thinking.

Ok breaks over.

What I don't like are the lies and coverups.  Everything from masks to the origins of it.

The censorship - people have their posts/tweets taken down and/or accounts locked if they comment on anything that doesn't toe the government line.  Anything from their own experiences, to discussion of government rules and guidance, to asking questions.  Even if they are researchers or doctors with relevant hands-on experience (as opposed to ''public health officials'' who don't.

So we know the same people who are constantly lying to us are lying to us now on at least some of it, and suppressing the rest.  That's the opposite of science.  And truth.  And free speech.

In that environment, I'm not taking their ''medicine''.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2407 on: September 03, 2021, 05:09:17 PM »
Dats right.  :D

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2408 on: September 03, 2021, 05:19:00 PM »
Main concerns over the “vaccine”.
- vaccine definition - provides immunity. None of the so-called vaccines for covid provide immunity. Nor do they prevent the spread. Nor do they prevent people from getting it. Nor do they prevent people from dying from it.

- mRNA technology - totally untested, 1 year on the market. Possibly alters dna. No one has any idea what the long term effects will be.

- normal vaccines take 5-10 years of rigorous testing to be FDA approved. And even then they can still be pulled because they kill people. Vioxx killed 60k people after being FDA approved.

- the survival rate of covid is >99.97% for people under age 54. And that’s going by CDC death numbers which no one argues have been greatly inflated. Death with covid vs dead the from covid.

- the vitamin regiment Rogan took is well tested and sworn by from 1000s of doctors, scientists, and patients from around the world.

- ivermectin has now been approved for treatment of covid by several countries including Japan and the US who’s giving it to refugees.

- Ivermectin like hydroxychloroquin have been used for decades and are FDA approved. So taking the approved dose is not going to kill you no matter how many horses have also taken it.

- on the label of every mask it clearly states - no medical benefits

- death rate from covid is now the lowest it’s been. Rivaling that of the flu.



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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2409 on: September 03, 2021, 05:34:32 PM »
This made me chuckle. Article about Ivermectin.

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Does it work?

There is no reliable evidence to suggest ivermectin is effective against COVID-19, although scientists have performed several studies to date.

A review of data from 15 ivermectin trials found that the drug did reduce deaths among COVID-19 patients who took it, according to an analysis published this month in the American Journal of Therapeutics.

One would think that "did reduce deaths" in 15 trials from a well understood, well tolerated, inexpensive drug [a huge percentage of the population in Africa takes it every week] would be enough to allow people to try it if they and their Doctor decide on it but nope......   Go drink some Sheep Drench.  It's insanity,

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2410 on: September 03, 2021, 05:49:53 PM »
This made me chuckle. Article about Ivermectin.

One would think that "did reduce deaths" in 15 trials from a well understood, well tolerated, inexpensive drug [a huge percentage of the population in Africa takes it every week] would be enough to allow people to try it if they and their Doctor decide on it but nope......   Go drink some Sheep Drench.  It's insanity,

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2411 on: September 03, 2021, 05:50:55 PM »
Big Farma wins again!

They always do Bart. They always do.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2412 on: September 03, 2021, 05:52:53 PM »
They always do Bart. They always do.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2413 on: September 03, 2021, 07:10:30 PM »
Does it work?

There is no reliable evidence to suggest ivermectin is effective against COVID-19, although scientists have performed several studies to date...

That's now the standard?  I think it should be. 

Is there ''reliable evidence'' that what Fouci, the various governors, etc, have had us doing the past year and a half ''is effective against COVID-19''? 

Is there even ''reliable evidence'' that the vaccine ''is effective against COVID-19''?

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2414 on: September 03, 2021, 07:40:35 PM »
What I don't like are the lies and coverups.  Everything from masks to the origins of it.

The censorship - people have their posts/tweets taken down and/or accounts locked if they comment on anything that doesn't toe the government line.  Anything from their own experiences, to discussion of government rules and guidance, to asking questions.  Even if they are researchers or doctors with relevant hands-on experience (as opposed to ''public health officials'' who don't.

So we know the same people who are constantly lying to us are lying to us now on at least some of it, and suppressing the rest.  That's the opposite of science.  And truth.  And free speech.

In that environment, I'm not taking their ''medicine''.

Not to mention the people pushing it have billions to gain.

- pharmaceutical companies manufacturing “vaccines” have turned record profits due to the vaccines.

- pharmaceutical companies manufacturing “vaccines” make up half the ads on CNN and MSNBC. They pay for these networks to exist.

- pharmaceutical companies manufacturing “vaccines” provide doctors and their offices with free lunches, dinners, golfing, trips. Doctors spend their time treating patients not studying virus. Their treatment choices come from pharmaceutical reps and the AMA. The AMA is big pharmaceutical.

- the doctors and scientists who’ve questioned the vaccines from the start have been censored and deplatformed. They have nothing to gain. Why do it unless they have legitimate cause?

- the endless shadiness surrounding the entire pandemic. The latest being the so-called FDA approval which turned out to be on a medication that isn’t even available yet.

- pharmaceutical companies manufacturing “vaccines” receiving legal immunity from lawsuits. The only immunity that exists involving the so-called vaccines.

There really needs to be more Joe Rogans out there encouraging healthy living and possible solutions to beating covid once it’s caught. Why would anyone be bothered by someone utilizing as many possible treatments they can to beat covid. People should be applauding. Half of us are. The other half either have money at stake or are simply brainwashed by endless fear mongering.

I look forward to continue study of the virus and potential treatments. It’s clear a real treatment will not come from the US who’s media and medical system is completely owned by big pharmaceutical.