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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2640 on: December 28, 2021, 08:16:06 PM »
Well, I just said fishy.  We're going to need more data before trusting a chart someone put on the internet claiming the vaccine prevents other than covid deaths.

For starters who put out the charts?  What research was this based on?  What sorts of non-covid related deaths are they claiming to have reduced?  How does the vax work on these non-covid issues?

I didn't put up the chart, so not sure how accurate it is. But if it is, and just looking at it at face value it does tell us somethings

1) The BS of people getting the jab are dying at a great pace by suspicious circumstances is wrong as the chart shows they are not dying at a faster pace vs non vax people of non-covid deaths, it's actually the oppositve

The second part is a little bit more puzzling (as the article says). Why are the Unvaccinated so much higher non-covid deaths than vaccinated. Two things come to mind as possibilities

a) Unvaccinated person mindset are generally less likely to visit doctor or listen to doctors, maybe they don't take meds that they should and in general are in poorer health. So their mortality rate would be higher even without a pandemic
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b) the classic "accuse others of what you are doing" the claims of exaggerating Covid numbers have been repeated a lot, if these numbers are true, it can be argued that the opposite is happening and there's states listing UnVax covid deaths as non-covid deaths


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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2641 on: December 28, 2021, 08:28:43 PM »
It's super exciting that the Fauci-cultists have found a way to be smug about being Fauci-cultists.

Tell me, why did Biden tell us today there is no federal solution to solve Covid, after campaigning on having a plan to do so?

Changing the subject when an uncomfortable fact is raised?  That's so unlike you 🤔

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2642 on: December 29, 2021, 03:06:05 AM »
Amazing that a few months later they were demanding that the term “fully vaccinated” be modified to include boosters.

Almost as amazing as that fantastical natural immunity seems to be wearing off after 3 months.
I guess people can get their natural immunity booster by catching it again.
Poor @PB is going to need a fainting couch when he finds out immunity doesn't mean immunity anymore.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2643 on: December 29, 2021, 03:07:23 AM »
Changing the subject when an uncomfortable fact is raised?  That's so unlike you 🤔

He sees another cloud and it gets his fists ashakin.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2644 on: December 29, 2021, 05:49:42 AM »
What's the mechanism?  How does it recognize the COVID virus?  How does it reduce the viral load or eliminate it?

Did you not read what he wrote?
It was a Santa Placebo Christmas miracle.
I thought he was clear about that.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2645 on: December 29, 2021, 07:22:29 AM »
Ivermectin’s role as an antiviral has been known and studied since at least 2012.  In 2020 the researchers threw it in a dish of Covid and it had the same effect in vitro as it did against other viruses they had tested.

This sounded interesting so I asked about it.
You might want to update that info you have.

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The original paper that found that ivermectin inhibited viral replication in cell culture used a 5 micromolar concentration. In vivo the drug has a Cmax of about 50 nanomolar. That means that dose that was required in vitro (IC50) is 100x higher than what can actually be achieved in vivo (Cmax). Even using a dose much higher than the safe/approved dose is unlikely to reach the level that was required in vitro.
https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2646 on: December 29, 2021, 07:31:01 AM »
This sounded interesting so I asked about it.
You might want to update that info you have.
https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

Did you have any questions about the chart someone found on the internet and posted, suggesting a 3 to 1 margin in non-covid related deaths between those taking the vaccine and those not taking the vaccine?

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2647 on: December 29, 2021, 07:36:06 AM »
Did you have any questions about the chart someone found on the internet and posted, suggesting the vaccine saved lives in non-covid related deaths?

No but I do have many questions about the FDA clinical trials you invented.

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« Reply #2648 on: December 29, 2021, 07:42:00 AM »
No but I do have many questions about the FDA clinical trials you invented.

Such as?

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2649 on: December 29, 2021, 07:47:56 AM »
Such as?

1. What made you believe something so silly?
2. Do you think much of your silliness comes from reading headlines and then inventing the rest of the story?
3. Falkie has called you a bank teller. Do you think that is fair of him? This one has nothing to do with trials or FDA but I wanted to post like you and just jump to a new cloud.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2650 on: December 29, 2021, 08:01:33 AM »
Thread is just wasting time squabbling over COVID-19 which is old hat now. Get with it thread, Marburg is where the action is. The Vaxx squad laid the groundwork in April:  The next pandemic: Marburg? and now in December it is here: Xi'an lockdown: Chinese city reports community transmission, hemorrhagic fever. Time to get in on the ground floor!

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2651 on: December 29, 2021, 08:11:39 AM »
Thread is just wasting time squabbling over COVID-19 which is old hat now. Get with it thread, Marburg is where the action is. The Vaxx squad laid the groundwork in April:  The next pandemic: Marburg? and now in December it is here: Xi'an lockdown: Chinese city reports community transmission, hemorrhagic fever. Time to get in on the ground floor!


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I am going off label and will start taking the robitussin preemptively.
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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2652 on: December 29, 2021, 08:24:23 AM »
Thread is just wasting time squabbling over COVID-19 which is old hat now. Get with it thread, Marburg is where the action is. The Vaxx squad laid the groundwork in April:  The next pandemic: Marburg? and now in December it is here: Xi'an lockdown: Chinese city reports community transmission, hemorrhagic fever. Time to get in on the ground floor!

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Where can Bart get his booster? Asking for an asshat.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2653 on: December 29, 2021, 08:26:54 AM »
Asking for an asshat.

New Falkie seems to be asking for himself.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2654 on: December 29, 2021, 08:54:04 AM »
CDC Admits that the Covid Pandemic Was the Product of an Inappropriate Test

https://www.europereloaded.com/cdc-admits-that-the-covid-pandemic-was-the-product-of-an-inappropriate-test/