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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2805 on: January 13, 2022, 07:39:23 PM »
Okay, okay you got me. I meant to say 0.4% as I saw the 99.6% survival rate being used a lot to give the point that a vaccine or even safety measures wasn't worth the hassle and even though that number is considered very optimistic, 99.6% survival rate that kills 80 out of 20,000 which goes back to my original point that 99%+ can be deceiving when you don't actually calculate how much that is compared to an arena, or stadium or even a population size

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2806 on: January 13, 2022, 08:02:43 PM »
This is the problem with pushing the conspiracy theory that the so-called Covid “vaccine” works. Reality continues to poke holes in their fantasies. Next big the pharma companies and their Democrat operatives in media/party whove made billions on a failed “vaccine” will insist we need more of the same. Wonder why they’d do that?

How many lives could’ve been saved if science had been allowed to continue its research to produce an actual vaccine or treatment that worked?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/fully-vaccinated-teen-model-18-25923945

*one vaccinated person dies of COVID complications*

anti-vaxxers: THE VACCINES ARE A FRAUD AND A FAILURE

Meanwhile, show an anti-vaxxer a tube of horse de-wormer, a strap-on dildo, or a glass of warm piss and you immediately have to dodge the flying rope of semen headed your way.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2807 on: January 13, 2022, 08:04:48 PM »
Okay, okay you got me. I meant to say 0.4% as I saw the 99.6% survival rate being used a lot to give the point that a vaccine or even safety measures wasn't worth the hassle and even though that number is considered very optimistic, 99.6% survival rate that kills 80 out of 20,000 which goes back to my original point that 99%+ can be deceiving when you don't actually calculate how much that is compared to an arena, or stadium or even a population size

Do you think that PB stands for "penis barrage"?  Because that's really what it feels like: Unending Penis Barrage.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2808 on: January 13, 2022, 08:32:52 PM »
Imagine, the conspiracy lemmings and their masters in big pharma called this so-called “vaccine” as success. Of course they also believe a guy who’s only skill of shitting his pants makes a good President.

How many of these deaths could have been prevented by having a vaccine that actually vaccinated.

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The totals number of alleged Covid-19 deaths by vaccination status between 6th Dec 21 and 2nd Jan 22, as confirmed by table 12b of the UKHSA report were as follows –

Not-vaccinated population = 928 deaths
Partly vaccinated population = 130 deaths
Triple/Double-vaccinated population = 2,621 deaths

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/08/bbc-forgot-to-tell-you-4-in-5-covid-deaths-triple-vaccinated/

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2809 on: January 13, 2022, 09:09:29 PM »
Imagine, the conspiracy lemmings and their masters in big pharma called this so-called “vaccine” as success. Of course they also believe a guy who’s only skill of shitting his pants makes a good President.

How many of these deaths could have been prevented by having a vaccine that actually vaccinated.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/08/bbc-forgot-to-tell-you-4-in-5-covid-deaths-triple-vaccinated/

Did @Zetaspeak do the math for this article?

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This is a huge increase on the number of cases that were recorded a month earlier between 15 Nov 21 and 12 Dec 21 in which the vaccinated population accounted for 59%, whilst the unvaccinated population accounted for 49%.

59 + 49 = 108%
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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2810 on: January 13, 2022, 09:30:42 PM »
Imagine, the conspiracy lemmings and their masters in big pharma called this so-called “vaccine” as success. Of course they also believe a guy who’s only skill of shitting his pants makes a good President.

How many of these deaths could have been prevented by having a vaccine that actually vaccinated.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/08/bbc-forgot-to-tell-you-4-in-5-covid-deaths-triple-vaccinated/

This is just like conspiracy theorists for assassinations or 911 troofers.  The only way that they can make a point is to lie.

Here is what the UK Report says before it presents the data referenced by the website:

"These data should be considered in the context of the vaccination status of the population groups shown in the rest of this report. In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases,
hospitalisations and deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective.  This is especially true because vaccination has been prioritised in individuals who are more susceptible or more at risk of severe disease. Individuals in risk groups may also be more at risk of hospitalisation or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be hospitalised or die with COVID-19 rather than from COVID-19. 

The vaccination status of cases, inpatients and deaths should not be used to assess vaccine effectiveness because of differences in risk, behaviour and testing in the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. The case rates in the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are crude rates that do not take into account underlying statistical biases in the data. There are likely to be systematic differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, for example:"

[various examples are given.  you can read the text on page 34 of the Report, which can be found here.

"These biases become more evident as more people are vaccinated and the differences between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population become systematically different in ways that are not accounted for without undertaken formal analysis of vaccine effectiveness. Vaccine effectiveness has been formally estimated from a number of different sources and is described on pages 5 to 15 in this report."

So there you have it.  The Report recognized exactly what the "expose'" site says that was not told to you; explained it; and offered a section dedicated to presenting data that properly analyzes the effectiveness of the vaccines against -- among other things -- mortality.  It even presents qualitative statistical confidence information.

The website simply exploits the credulity of their audience.  Does that sound at all familiar?  It's what you clowns constantly claim that "Big Pharma" and "the Left" do.  Will this bother you at all?  No.  Will you stop sucking that antivax penis?  Also no.

It's like I said in a post to GravitySucks: every time you take a deep dive into the data presented by conspiracy retards, you always find something like this.  It's a complete waste of time.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2811 on: January 13, 2022, 09:43:07 PM »
Ever notice how many self-proclaimed Liberal Democrats are racist homophobes?  It's astonishing.

Are they hypocrites, too?  Or is that just you?




Here's one of our HHS Assistant Secretaries of Health.  The Left sure knows how to find them.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2812 on: January 14, 2022, 03:17:48 AM »
Okay, okay you got me. I meant to say 0.4% as I saw the 99.6% survival rate being used a lot to give the point that a vaccine or even safety measures wasn't worth the hassle and even though that number is considered very optimistic, 99.6% survival rate that kills 80 out of 20,000 which goes back to my original point that 99%+ can be deceiving when you don't actually calculate how much that is compared to an arena, or stadium or even a population size

I marveled at the thread math teachers totally ignoring Joe Rogan doing Joe Rogan things in order to grade your paper.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2813 on: January 14, 2022, 03:22:23 AM »
So there you have it.  The Report recognized exactly what the "expose'" site says that was not told to you; explained it; and offered a section dedicated to presenting data that properly analyzes the effectiveness of the vaccines against -- among other things -- mortality.  It even presents qualitative statistical confidence information.

The website simply exploits the credulity of their audience.  Does that sound at all familiar?  It's what you clowns constantly claim that "Big Pharma" and "the Left" do.  Will this bother you at all?  No.  Will you stop sucking that antivax penis?  Also no.

The regurgitating bloviator known as @Gd5150 is an easy mark for the freeze dried meal sellers.
He doesn't bother looking at 12b because he got all he needed from the headline they fed him.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2814 on: January 14, 2022, 03:43:34 AM »
Did @Zetaspeak do the math for this article?

59 + 49 = 108%

They don't bother with math on Telegram... and you know that is where ChooChoo Boy picked up this gem.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2815 on: January 14, 2022, 04:12:48 AM »
I marveled at the thread math teachers totally ignoring Joe Rogan doing Joe Rogan things in order to grade your paper.
I just dislike people making an argument with flawed figures.  It is funny how the side one is on is allowed these mistakes while the opposite side is accused of misinformation for these gaffes.  I would love to start a thread discussing this and other such phenomena but it would quickly devolve in to an “am not, are too” thread.  Unfortunately that is just human nature.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2816 on: January 14, 2022, 04:28:48 AM »
I just dislike people making an argument with flawed figures.  It is funny how the side one is on is allowed these mistakes while the opposite side is accused of misinformation for these gaffes.  I would love to start a thread discussing this and other such phenomena but it would quickly devolve in to an “am not, are too” thread.  Unfortunately that is just human nature.

I would say the funny part is you overlooking the fact that @HamsterMuscle pointed out the numbers gaffe first in order to make your opposite side argument.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2817 on: January 14, 2022, 07:34:35 AM »
I would say the funny part is you overlooking the fact that @HamsterMuscle pointed out the numbers gaffe first in order to make your opposite side argument.
I did not see the HamsterMuscle post until after I made mine and I do not know follow these threads closely enough to know what side everyone is on.   I don’t like seeing any side making arguments with faulty math and I really hate when people switch between rates and actual numbers when convenient, which is not what happened here.  It is reasonable to try to relate 0.04%, a hard to understand number, to real world numbers. 50% is easy to understand and does not need translation You ignored the fact I have not made an argument argument on any side.  In fact I invited  discussion with the correct number, but that discussion would not change anyones mind.  My statement “the side one is on” applies to either side of the argument. Like I said it would be interesting to have a thread about the psychology of this but it would be like any other political thread, name calling and bias confirmation.  I’m not above the fray, I just like to choose when I piss into the wind and get wet.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2818 on: January 14, 2022, 08:07:29 AM »
I just dislike people making an argument with flawed figures.  It is funny how the side one is on is allowed these mistakes while the opposite side is accused of misinformation for these gaffes.  I would love to start a thread discussing this and other such phenomena but it would quickly devolve in to an “am not, are too” thread.  Unfortunately that is just human nature.

Most people dislike when they’re sold a vaccine that causes more deaths than it prevents.

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Re: 2020 CoronaVirus Outbreak - That began in Wuhan, China and is spreading
« Reply #2819 on: January 14, 2022, 08:14:21 AM »
Do you think that PB stands for "penis barrage"?  Because that's really what it feels like: Unending Penis Barrage.

Can you leave me out of your fantasy life?  Thanks.